Parcells Is The "SHE"! Gutless Play-Calling In The Red Zone Is The Problem...

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wileedog said:
I have never in my life seen so many people p*ssed off at a coach because he didn't abandon the only thing that was working to do more of the thing that clearly wasn't.

All is well in Dallas then. Sorry for wanting my team to sack up take a chance. We're in the tightest division in the league, in a race we may have a shot at winning(maybe). PLaying conservative just sent us from first to last in our division. This was our chance to gain a game on everyone in our division.

Your right, all is well. Sorry for the misunderstanding....I won't question the greatest coach and play callers in the world again. :bow:
 

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rexrobinson said:
Guys bottom line, our offensive players played like garbage today...no playcalling would of made that any differnet.


BS. If thats the case roll up and fly back to Dallas at half time. You have to put a game away when you have a chance to do so. We didn't today and we lost. This was so Washington like.
 

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Give me a break. We have a probowl TE. See if you can't get him open like last week inside the 5. Give this team a chance. Seattle couldn't do jack all game and they threw it inside the 5. They are winners today and we're losers.

Play calling is perfectly fine, rex?

They did get him open in the endzone...and Bledsoe got chased out of the pocket and out of bounds.
 

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Actually no, because we ran on them all day long, and couldnt pass at all. Bledsoe wasnt accurate and the recivers were dropping balls when they managed to get open.. Thats why he didnt trust them to get cute in the endzone.

Parcells wouldnt have to go conservative if the guys pulled their head out of the *** and play ball.

and you made my point.. if the players actually played well we would of done well...dont you get it.. the play called has very little to do with if the guys execute it.

Sigh, fine, lets go to the stats... assuming we start on the 10 yrd line.

Bledsoe
Comp-13
Att-24
Yrds-136
Pct-54.2
Y/A-5.7

So, Bledsoe completed over 50% of is passes, and averaged 5.7 an attempt. So, given the chance the throw it twice (2 attempts) the stats would tell us he would complete one of them for 11.4 yards (5.7 * 2 att). Touchdown!

Marion Barber
Rushes-22
Yrds-95
Avg-4.3

So, given two attempts, Barber goes for 8.6 (4.3 * 2). No touchdown.

A-Train
Rushes-6
Yrds-19
Avg-3.2

6.4... agian no

T Thompson
Rushes-6
Yrds-34
Avg-5.7

11.4... finally a touchdown. Course no chance Big Bill would have TT in the game in the redzone, so scratch that.


This is of course by no means an exact science, but it is to illustrate a point. Bledsoe completed 54.2% of his passes. He was sacked 4 times, thus the chances of him being sacked were roughly 28/4 (Comp + sacks divided by sacks)... so 7%. The numbers say we pass we win. Remember, play calling has nothing to do with it!
 

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EveryoneElse said:
BS. If thats the case roll up and fly back to Dallas at half time. You have to put a game away when you have a chance to do so. We didn't today and we lost. This was so Washington like.


That is a garbage statement....our guys played horrible in the passing game all game long, and no playcalling in the world would of changed that.

We actually ran the ball well today, but we became one dimentinal as soon as it became apparant we couldnt pass. And when you have the lead and cant pass, why would you risk losing the lead by passing when your QB cant throw a wet ball, our recivers are not getting open and dropping balls when they do?

What playcall changes that fact?
 

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Sigh, fine, lets go to the stats... assuming we start on the 10 yrd line.

Bledsoe
Comp-13
Att-24
Yrds-136
Pct-54.2
Y/A-5.7

So, Bledsoe completed over 50% of is passes, and averaged 5.7 an attempt. So, given the chance the throw it twice (2 attempts) the stats would tell us he would complete one of them for 11.4 yards (5.7 * 2 att). Touchdown!

Marion Barber
Rushes-22
Yrds-95
Avg-4.3

So, given two attempts, Barber goes for 8.6 (4.3 * 2). No touchdown.

A-Train
Rushes-6
Yrds-19
Avg-3.2

6.4... agian no

T Thompson
Rushes-6
Yrds-34
Avg-5.7

11.4... finally a touchdown. Course no chance Big Bill would have TT in the game in the redzone, so scratch that.


This is of course by no means an exact science, but it is to illustrate a point. Bledsoe completed 54.2% of his passes. He was sacked 4 times, thus the chances of him being sacked were roughly 28/4 (Comp + sacks divided by sacks)... so 7%. The numbers say we pass we win. Remember, play calling has nothing to do with it!


Thats why your not an NFL coach and Parcells is (and considered one of the best ever)

Those "numbers" you just posted mean diddly and squat. Sure..pass and you win, but if you CANT PASS THE BALL DUE TO NO EXECUTION you do not win. What is so hard to understand that?

I am done on this topic tonight...

Bill Parcells could take a dump today..and the turd that floats down the sewer would understand more about football tactics than a lot of what I have read tonight.
 

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rexrobinson said:
Thats why your not an NFL coach and Parcells is (and considered one of the best ever)

Those "numbers" you just posted mean diddly and squat. Sure..pass and you win, but if you CANT PASS THE BALL DUE TO NO EXECUTION you do not win. What is so hard to understand that?

I am done on this topic tonight...

Bill Parcells could take a dump today..and the turd that floats down the sewer would understand more about football tactics than a lot of what I have read tonight.

Ohh wait, whats that saying... the number don't lie. When the numbers turn agianst you, your retort is a personal attack agianst me. Predictable like our playcalling. Let me remind you of the rules of this wonderful forum.

The Rules said:
Personal attacks or insults directed at other members of this site are not allowed. Name calling and commentary about another user's family, intelligence, etc. are all considered personal in nature. Violating this guideline will result in your account being suspended or banned.

Have a nice day!
 

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I agree that the play calling was the problem. They KNEW we were going to run. All they had to do was look at the film from our other games to know that we always run in that situation. They were waiting for us to run and we had ZERO chance of going anywhere with a run. They were ripe for the pickings if our coaching staff (be it Parcells or Payton) would have called a play action pass. They were so all over the run that had we run a play action pass down there the only problem we would have had was Bledsoe deciding which wide open receiver to throw it to.

BTW did anyone notice what play Seattle scored their TD with? It was a play "action pass" on second down. I guess Zimmer called a defense as if he were coaching against OUR gutless play callers.
 

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rexrobinson said:
Thats why your not an NFL coach and Parcells is (and considered one of the best ever)

Those "numbers" you just posted mean diddly and squat. Sure..pass and you win, but if you CANT PASS THE BALL DUE TO NO EXECUTION you do not win. What is so hard to understand that?

I am done on this topic tonight...

Bill Parcells could take a dump today..and the turd that floats down the sewer would understand more about football tactics than a lot of what I have read tonight.

To quote Jim Haslett, that's a chickensh** call. Bledsoe didn't have his best game to be sure, but he wasn't playing horribly. Sure, maybe he held the ball too long, or maybe the oline let some guys slip by, or both. The fact is, Bledsoe was completing around 55% of his passes, and was only allowed to make 24 attempts. 23 if you don't count that last desperation throw.

I hate to dwell on this but I saw maybe three total playaction calls. They were all executed properly and usually led to completions. In fact, one of them led to Drew's longest pass of the day. Then, it was as if all play action passes had been removed from the playbook. That's not lack of execution, that's just forgetting to play to your team's strengths.

Barber was on fire, so Purcells runs him into the ground and mixes in a slice of Tyson Thompson and all but abandons the passing and play action game. There is plenty of room to second guess the playcalling here, but some of you guys act like Purcells squats, strains, and squeezes out bars of gold from his backside. Nobody is perfect.
 

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You can complain about the playcalling, but I still haven't seen this staff do anything that wasn't completely justifiable. I swear, I don't think fans ever consider what else might happen. I mean, you've got a defense playing well. You've got a struggling line. You've got a QB that's having some problems. You've got the clock on your side. Granted, everything fell apart, and that's awfully frustrating. But Dallas could have gone for it on fourth down, not gotten it, and lost the game a whole lot faster.
 

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scottsp said:
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Lookit...ten points wins a lot of ballgames if you're smart.

:rolleyes:

:lmao:

Sad, but funny.
 

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You can complain about the playcalling, but I still haven't seen this staff do anything that wasn't completely justifiable. I swear, I don't think fans ever consider what else might happen. I mean, you've got a defense playing well. You've got a struggling line. You've got a QB that's having some problems. You've got the clock on your side. Granted, everything fell apart, and that's awfully frustrating. But Dallas could have gone for it on fourth down, not gotten it, and lost the game a whole lot faster.
It couldn't have gotten much worse than coming away from two possessions inside the 10 with only 3 lousy points. We had multiple chances to put this game away and we didn't. We did the exact same thing on both possessions and they KNEW what we were going to do. And we go through this stuff on a weekly basis, yes that is frustrating.

I'm not talking about the 4th down play; I’m talking about the second down plays. I wanted them to go for it but I understood...go up by 7 and the best they can do it tie you...theoretically.
 

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Kilyin said:
Bledsoe didn't have his best game to be sure, but he wasn't playing horribly.

Sarcasim:

No way man, you just don't get it... Bledsoe WAS HORRIBLE. Look at these completely unacceptable numbers:
Comp Att Yds Pct Y/A Sack TD Int
13 24 136 54.2 5.7 4 1 2

Don't you wish we had Hasselbeck?
Comp Att Yds Pct Y/A Sack TD Int
23 42 224 54.8 5.3 1 1 2

Never mind their nearly identical comp pct! Bledsoe is defenatly no Peyton Manning!
(P. Manning week 2 vs Jags... Colts won 10-3)
Comp Att Yds Pct Y/A Sack TD Int
13 28 122 46.4 4.4 0 0 1
 

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I agree, Jack. I just also think that Bill didn't trust his offense enough to be going for anything at that point. I think he was betting that his defense could do enough, or that Seattle would beat themselves. And as much as I hate to say it, if Cortez makes his kick, Bill's strategy is looking pretty good.
 

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I agree, Jack. I just also think that Bill didn't trust his offense enough to be going for anything at that point. I think he was betting that his defense could do enough, or that Seattle would beat themselves. And as much as I hate to say it, if Cortez makes his kick, Bill's strategy is looking pretty good.

I still don't think it looks good. We were "looking good" in the Skins game, where did that get us? In this day and age, ANY NFL team has the ability to score a touchdown at a moments notice. Playing to protect a 3 or 7 point advantage just doesn't cut it anymore. We killed the Eagles... why? Because we kept laying it on them, and never gave them a hope that they could win. We never even let them in that game. With the Commanders, with the Raiders, with the 49ers, with the Giants, with the Seahawks... all of these we never went for the kill. Win or lose, we never put them away.
 

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I can't believe that so many people are blaming the play calling. Bledsoe was ineffective for major chunks of the game and the one time Parcells trusts him at the end, he throws his typical game killing interception. Poor decision making is Bledsoe' trade mark and the reason that the Patriots and the Bills dump. If the Cowboys ever have to depend on him to win a game at the end, they are in serious trouble.
 

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3 games and really 4, if you count the Raider game, aren't called coincidences, they are called trends.

You will never know if the pass would have worked in those situations because "SHE" hasn't tried to go for the kill once in 3 ballgames with the opportunity staring "HER" in the face!

Grow a set Parcells and maybe this team can do something. I would much rather lose TRYING to put the other team away than take the slow death approach we've seen in almost every game this year. Absolutely sickening!!
 

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It wouldn't hurt to throw the ball into the end zone every now and then. We make the catch, those are called TD's. That will keep Cortez from those heartbreaking FG attempts.
 
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