Parcells on Real Sports Tonight

[theogt]

Then I'm sure you're plenty impressed with what he was able to accomplish here.

I'm not impressed by simply not being incompetent.

Romo acknowledged something similar. Surely you can separate feelings then from feelings as Romo gained experience and allowed himself to be taught?

But that's getting off topic. Bill in a radio interview with Seattle media way back in 2004 said (when the Seattle personalities kept asking about Henson) "I've got another one down there you guys don't know about yet." Romo was identified, and was extended for a gigantic contract for an unproven backup.

Truly some amazing planning and foresight by Bill. Always good to reminisce.

I guess you're right, not cutting Tony Romo is certainly an impressive accomplishment.

 

[theebs]

We need some more threads on why parcells sucks and How he held us back.

Its going to be interesting when the dolphins are contenders in the east and a solid franchise with the arrow pointing up by next year at this time.

It will be very interesting for me to read about because everyone hear keeps saying ireland and gaine have nothing to do with it cause parcells calls the shots, however in Dallas we had good drafts in spite of Parcells.

So when miami is winning I cant wait to hear how ireland is the main reason, I suppose all the people who keep saying he is parcells puppet will then switch their tune and credit ireland saying parcells is not around much.

Anyway carry on.

This site needs a special section. The why parcells sucks and it was just by chance Dallas became a powerhouse when he showed up. It would be the best.

 

[theogt]

We need some more threads on why parcells sucks and How he held us back.

Its going to be interesting when the dolphins are contenders in the east and a solid franchise with the arrow pointing up by next year at this time.

It will be very interesting for me to read about because everyone hear keeps saying ireland and gaine have nothing to do with it cause parcells calls the shots, however in Dallas we had good drafts in spite of Parcells.

So when miami is winning I cant wait to hear how ireland is the main reason, I suppose all the people who keep saying he is parcells puppet will then switch their tune and credit ireland saying parcells is not around much.

Anyway carry on.

This site needs a special section. The why parcells sucks and it was just by chance Dallas became a powerhouse when he showed up. It would be the best.

Yes, improving a 1-15 team will be another great accomplishment.

PS - Nobody said he sucks. Carry on.

 

[superpunk]

I guess you're right, extending an unproven Tony Romo with Jerry's Kid waiting in the wings is certainly an impressive accomplishment.

I am right. There's no need to guess, crazy guy.

 

[sago1]

I indeed remember Parcells comments re the QB situation and Romo. I think that was the first time that I, maybe a lot of other Cowboy fans as well, had an inking that the Cowboys future might be in the hands of Romo and not Henson. Count me as one Cowboy fan who will always be grateful to Parcells. He made some mistakes both in the draft, his conservative game plan on both sides of the ball & bringing in some of his FOB players. But he also drafted a lot of good players. And IMHO he left the Cowboys with the most important player of all, our future franchise QB in Tony Romo. That more then makes up for any of his other mistakes.

 

[theogt]

I am right. There's no need to guess, crazy guy.

Most teams keep 3 QBs. We didn't have a long-term starter on the roster, so it's not as if it was an either/or situation between Romo and Henson.

It's not as if he found the guy and mentored him to superstardom. Someone else found him. Someone else mentored him. And he only stuck around the roster because another QB was cut for his drug habit.

 

[superpunk]

I indeed remember Parcells comments re the QB situation and Romo. I think that was the first time that I, maybe a lot of other Cowboy fans as well, had an inking that the Cowboys future might be in the hands of Romo and not Henson. Count me as one Cowboy fan who will always be grateful to Parcells. He made some mistakes both in the draft, his conservative game plan on both sides of the ball & bringing in some of his FOB players. But he also drafted a lot of good players. And IMHO he left the Cowboys with the most important player of all, our future franchise QB in Tony Romo. That more then makes up for any of his other mistakes.

Good recall. Sure, mistakes were made. They always will be. The good far outweighs the bad - and looking at the situation the Cowboys are in today and thinking about the hand Bill Parcells had in it, how can anyone help but praise that great Cowboy? I know I can't. it's just too bad he didn't have it in him to stick around longer.

 

[theebs]

Yes, improving a 1-15 team will be another great accomplishment.

PS - Nobody said he sucks. Carry on.

Not in this thread I dont think they did, but umm it happens all the time.

Improving the Dolphins franchise is what I am talking about. Throw the record out the window. The dolphins have been as sorry an organization as there is in the past 8 years.

Horrible decision after horrible decision, really poor drafts, unstable front office, coaches constantly in flux and then very bad results on the field.


that is all over now. They will be a model franchise in two years. Just watch. Soon the dolphins will be an attraction again. The qb issue is going to slow the progress but everywhere else they will be above average soon.

The dolphins and Bills will be back to playing each other on sunday or monday night come next year and the kicker will be the game will matter.

Anyone who can win with quincy carter, glenn foley and Jeff hostetler has a system that works.

Say what you want, 1-15 and only one place to go but up, but it hasnt happened in miami in years. There 1-15 season wasnt much worse than some of wannstedt's bad years followed up by sabans miserable last year. Everyone has talked a big game down there and not one coach, front office or scout has been able to make a difference there yet.

Until now. The dolphins will be back in the spotlight in the blink of an eye and there is a reason, parcells way works and the guys he brought there to help him believe in it and will teach it and it will bring results. Plain and simple.

 

[theogt]

Not in this thread I dont think they did, but umm it happens all the time.

Improving the Dolphins franchise is what I am talking about. Throw the record out the window. The dolphins have been as sorry an organization as there is in the past 8 years.

Horrible decision after horrible decision, really poor drafts, unstable front office, coaches constantly in flux and then very bad results on the field.


that is all over now. They will be a model franchise in two years. Just watch. Soon the dolphins will be an attraction again. The qb issue is going to slow the progress but everywhere else they will be above average soon.

The dolphins and Bills will be back to playing each other on sunday or monday night come next year and the kicker will be the game will matter.

Anyone who can win with quincy carter, glenn foley and Jeff hostetler has a system that works.

Say what you want, 1-15 and only one place to go but up, but it hasnt happened in miami in years. There 1-15 season wasnt much worse than some of wannstedt's bad years followed up by sabans miserable last year. Everyone has talked a big game down there and not one coach, front office or scout has been able to make a difference there yet.

Until now. The dolphins will be back in the spotlight in the blink of an eye and there is a reason, parcells way works and the guys he brought there to help him believe in it and will teach it and it will bring results. Plain and simple.

His system is to be safe. Be conservative. Make safe draft picks, make safe acquisitions, and play safe football. As long as you're competent to know what's safe, it works. Well, it works in that it gets you 9-7, but not much more.

 

[theebs]

His system is to be safe. Be conservative. Make safe draft picks, make safe acquisitions, and play safe football. As long as you're competent to know what's safe, it works. Well, it works in that it gets you 9-7, but not much more.

oh really?

ok. I dont have the energy for this tonight so to each his own.

 

[iceberg]

Not sure if this has been posted, but read this in today's USA Today...

"Parcells blames Romo miscue on retirement"

Bill Parcells will tell Andrea Kremer of HBO on Real Sports tonight (10 p.m.) that Tony Romo's inability to catch a snap for a field goal in the playoffs forced him into retirement.
According to a transcript sent out by HBO, Parcells had enough.
"We’d just lost to Seattle and I’m flying back,'' Parcells told Kremer. "I'm sitting up with the pilots, you know, I have a little fear of flying so I ride up in the cockpit. And I said, ‘This is probably going to be my last trip.’ And you just know. You don’t want to go through the whole process again, to get to right where we were. You know? And all you got to do is kick a field goal, the most elementary of plays, and then you just don’t do it. And so I don’t want to go through that process again. Too much blood.”
It was the third time that Parcells retired.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/gameon/2008/07/parcells-blames.html

if all this is true then he's a lying sack of monkey nuggets for doing the "i just don't know if i can go on!!!!" melo-drama for so long.

 

[Nors]

5-11,5-11,5-11
Parcells turned this franchise around - PERIOD

Miami - he is on his way to doing the same.

 

[mperfection]

If Romo is responsible for Parcells retiring, then we all owe Romo our sincerest gratitude.

That fumbled snap was the best thing that could've happened to this organization if thats the case.

Could NOT have said it better!

 

[jobberone]

Are you saying it took a lot of work to improve one of the worst teams in the NFL? I agree that he's not incompetent, but that's pretty much all you're saying when you say he improved the team from what it was. He essentially got us 4 more wins per season over a 5-11 team.

Yes, Bill Parcells was not incompetent. Was what he did here great? Impressive? No.

The single biggest reason this team was 13-3 and we're Super Bowl contenders is that Tony Romo is ridiculously good. And that was a complete fluke.

Do you say things just to be contrary or to be melodraumatic yourself? Because you can come up with some frakin dillies.

This team went downhill from 95 and was just a notch above Cardinal time before Parcells got here. Now look at us. What does it take for you? Do you think all of a sudden the entire organization turned around by chance? Or that JJ got an epiphany from God?

Parcells is a HOF coach. That's all. But that's a lot. He's not perfect. He makes mistakes and perhaps his coaching style is too conservative for the league now with all the changes on offense. He did a lot better than Gibbs who is a HOF coach, too. Yeah, Gibbs won a couple of playoff games. Look at his organization after he left. Look at ours.

My hat's off to Parcells for revamping the organization and allowing it along with him to get back into the stratosphere.

Leave your ridiculous remarks for some other agenda. It's lost on this one.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Unless Parcells gets a QB that team is going nowhere. Its certainly going to be awful this year.

 

[theogt]

Do you say things just to be contrary or to be melodraumatic yourself? Because you can come up with some frakin dillies.

This team went downhill from 95 and was just a notch above Cardinal time before Parcells got here. Now look at us. What does it take for you? Do you think all of a sudden the entire organization turned around by chance? Or that JJ got an epiphany from God?

Parcells is a HOF coach. That's all. But that's a lot. He's not perfect. He makes mistakes and perhaps his coaching style is too conservative for the league now with all the changes on offense. He did a lot better than Gibbs who is a HOF coach, too. Yeah, Gibbs won a couple of playoff games. Look at his organization after he left. Look at ours.

My hat's off to Parcells for revamping the organization and allowing it along with him to get back into the stratosphere.

Leave your ridiculous remarks for some other agenda. It's lost on this one.

Some people have a terrible problem with reading. You're one of them tonight.

Let's do a little exercise.

If someone says "He wasn't great here," does that mean they think he was terrible? Of course not. So don't imply that I said anything like that.

Do I give him credit? Of course I do. I said in this very thread I'm glad he came here. But I'm also glad he left, because AS A FOOTBALL COACH he did suck. He sucked bad.

Please. Do me a favor. Recognize that simply not praising a person as "great" does not mean I don't think highly of them.

 

[NextGenBoys]

Dude.

4 wide receivers. Base defensive package.

Glad he came. Glad he left.

I wouldn't call him great or amazing. He was a good short-term motivator with a penchant for making safe draft choices.

Yeah but it aint Madden. You dont get to wait for the offense to pick their plays and go off their formation.

The defense has to call a play by down a distance. If its 1st and 10, why wouldnt we come out in our base defense.

That being said, I get what you're saying. He doesnt adjust. It killed us.

 

[ghosttown cowboy]

Yeah and a missed field goal from the other team made him a legend. You've got to take the good w/ the bad.

Absolutely

 

[theebs]

Absolutely

Except the more impressive win that season was over the two time defending champ 49ers in there stadium, with a backup quarterback.

 

[theogt]

Yeah but it aint Madden. You dont get to wait for the offense to pick their plays and go off their formation.

The defense has to call a play by down a distance. If its 1st and 10, why wouldnt we come out in our base defense.

That being said, I get what you're saying. He doesnt adjust. It killed us.

Actually, you do get to watch the personnel package on the field and adjust your personnel accordingly.

When Zimmer was asked about us not changing that year he said something like, "I couldn't really tell you why we didn't."