Parcells - Romo

[superpunk]

So he's getting worse with better talent. Sounds like the product of being an over-the-hill QB to me.

That's definitely possible.

I'm not buying it, yet. Bledsoe had the same excellent preseason that Romo did.

 

[Portland Fanatic]

Well then, you are completely wrong.

Look at Bledsoe's career TO's per game, then look at games against Jax and Philly.

It's not even close to par for the course for Bledsoe.

Maybe not at the ratio of 4 turnovers per game, but he does not play well at all against good defenses or in the playoffs.

 

[superpunk]

No, he is that bad. All off season some of us have been singing the same song, being labeled Bledsoe haters etc.

On the road, when pressure is on, Bledsoe always has been bad. At home, it seems to be a different story. Watch Houston game, he will be good and most likely against Gaints too.

Then against Panthers I expect another meltdown. I hope I am wrong, and he totally plays well here on out. I am not saying he can't throw a bad pass here and there, but what I am saying is, he shouldn't throw back breaking type of ints or fumbles.

No. He is not THAT bad. He is not 5 TOs per game bad.

I guess you must not have watched our road games against SD, Philly, or Carolina last year, where he carried the team, led us back, and tossed a game-winner to Terry.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

No, he is that bad. All off season some of us have been singing the same song, being labeled Bledsoe haters etc.

On the road, when pressure is on, Bledsoe always has been bad. At home, it seems to be a different story. Watch Houston game, he will be good and most likely against Gaints too.

Then against Panthers I expect another meltdown. I hope I am wrong, and he totally plays well here on out. I am not saying he can't throw a bad pass here and there, but what I am saying is, he shouldn't throw back breaking type of ints or fumbles.

Good point about his home performances compared to the road. Especially NFC EAST road games. There is a difference in his performance, but in his defense the whole team seems to come unglued on the road in a hostile environment, as in the Skins game last year.

 

[rcaldw]

Despite what some fans think Peter King and Mortenson do talk to Parcells and King, especially does have a pretty close relationship with him, dating back to King's days at Newsday when Parcells was with the G-men.

When King began to openly write about Romo possibly taking over the reigns at some point early in the season, if Bledsoe struggled in the first few games, he didn't come up with that on his own and Parcells didn't whisper it to him to appease Jerry or take attention away from Drew Henson.

I want a change, but I recognize that it's not that easy for a Head Coach. Replacing Bledsoe has major ramifications for every player on the roster of a team that was expected to contend. As a Head Coach you have to be cautious about such a change. I don't like it, but I do understand it.

Bledsoe better pick up his game and hope the OL figures out how to pick up a blitz or Romo-time could be closer than anyone believes.

You may be right Captain. What I'm looking for is the reason why you talk up Tony Romo, "leak" the idea to your buddies (King and Mortenson) that a change could be coming soon, have the perfect scenario for enacting the change, and then not do it.

You may be right, though, that it is simply a matter of thinking twice before you pull the trigger.

 

[5Stars]

Then again I'm no QB coach either but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night. With my wife.....

That's funny...I did the same thing the night before!

 

[Stautner]

Stautner, just to be clear on my opinion, if Parcells "used" Romo in this way, it would have only been during that brief time when the Dallas community was pressing pretty hard about why can't we see Henson.

I don't think he was doing that THIS PRESEASON. I DO think, however, that Parcells is sensitive to Jerry Jones' desire, to have SOME FUTURE in place at QB before his time here is done. Thus, talking up Tony gives hope to Jerry and the fanbase even while in his mind, Romo isn't that close to unseating Bledsoe.

I can certainly see that Parcells would want to appease Jerry's desire to have a QB of the future in place, but it just doesn't make sense that Romo would be the guy he would do that with.

At least not unless he truly believed in him.

Why would Parcells choose to force feed Jerry and the fans with a guy that came out of college with low expectations (undrafted - small school) and whom Jerry has barely been able to hide his dislike for when a multitude of other guys he could have dug up over the years would have been a much easier sell?

Besides, Romo's status isn't just built on promotion by Parcells - the fact is that Romo has performed well in 8 consecutive preseason games. Not all GREAT games, but not a dud in the bunch. That suggests strongly that Romo can be the real deal - why should we question that until it is proved wrong?

 

[Martice]

That's funny...I did the same thing the night before!

 

[RCowboyFan]

Good point about his home performances compared to the road. Especially NFC EAST road games. There is a difference in his performance, but in his defense the whole team seems to come unglued on the road in a hostile environment, as in the Skins game last year.

I think lot of that had to do with early miscues by Bledsoe. Last year against Philly, on the MNF game, we were going to toe to toe with Philly, then Bledsoe throws a bad Int just before half and Philly scores, that till the end of the game, whole team, especially Offense played like Crap.
Same thing against Skins, he throws a int. early in the game, and seems like suddenly whole team crumbles. I just feel that or sense that, those things rattle Bledsoe and in turns it effects the rest of the team, offensive side anyway. This version of team seems to be more mature than last year, but we won't know till end of season.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

You may be right Captain. What I'm looking for is the reason why you talk up Tony Romo, "leak" the idea to your buddies (King and Mortenson) that a change could be coming soon, have the perfect scenario for enacting the change, and then not do it.

You may be right, though, that it is simply a matter of thinking twice before you pull the trigger.

I just think you have to give it time. We are only 4 weeks into the season and you are talking about the single biggest decision a Head Coach can make. To bench a guy like Bledsoe, a known commodity who has definite limitations, but also in his defense has some positive attributes, to go with a guy who has never taken a snap in the regular season.

What would make this much easier for Parcells would be a minor injury to Bledsoe that would give him a chance to see Romo in action. But that only happens once every 7 or 8 years or so with Bledose. He's a tough hombre, made out of barbed wire. :bang2:

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I think lot of that had to do with early miscues by Bledsoe. Last year against Philly, on the MNF game, we were going to toe to toe with Philly, then Bledsoe throws a bad Int just before half and Philly scores, that till the end of the game, whole team, especially Offense played like Crap.
Same thing against Skins, he throws a int. early in the game, and seems like suddenly whole team crumbles. I just feel that or sense that, those things rattle Bledsoe and in turns it effects the rest of the team, offensive side anyway. This version of team seems to be more mature than last year, but we won't know till end of season.

Agree but it's the Defense also. They acted like they never understood a QB could throw the ball to a TE (i.e.,Chris Cooley) in that game in Washington last year.

 

[RCowboyFan]

No. He is not THAT bad. He is not 5 TOs per game bad.

I guess you must not have watched our road games against SD, Philly, or Carolina last year, where he carried the team, led us back, and tossed a game-winner to Terry.

Against SD, I agree. Against Philly and Carolina, please...... Julius/ and lucky Ref call against Carolina, and against Philly, pretty much one throw and stupid throw by McNabb.

Sure he has made those throws in Carolina and Philly, but he was also throwing some bad throws at the same time. I guess some people want to see what they want to see. I am sure you will say the same about me, but, facts don't lie.

Three teams and the same results so far with Bledsoe. But its never his fault ... Oh yeah, like I said I am sure he will have good games against Houston and Giants to quiet the talks about Romo etc., but I am sure next three road games, I think he will have about 2 meltdown type of games.

Hey feed me crow, if he doesn't , and I will gladly eat it. Either way, at the end of the year, I think it will be the same Bledsoe we saw every year since 2001.

 

[Pine Needle]

Good analysis. However, I do see that Romo probably plays well enough to start but not overwhelmingly so at this point in his career. Then again, Drew falls into that category as well even after 14 years of experience.

Seriously speaking. Of course I don't think Romo is going to come in and blaze the NFL but I also believe he can't make moreof the same bone head decisions that Drew makes. Even with limited experience.

Good Post.

Bledsoe has an overall won/lost record of something like 44/56, and he is getting worse at the position of QB. He is 4th from the bottom in the NFL at his position. So we have a proven losing QB with decaying skills playing near the very bottom of the league after 14 years at his job, and Parcells can't figure out what to do.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Bledsoe has an overall won/lost record of something like 44/56, and he is getting worse at the position of QB. He is 4th from the bottom in the NFL at his position. So we have a proven losing QB with decaying skills playing near the very bottom of the league after 14 years at his job, and Parcells can't figure out what to do.

The problem is, Bledsoe has had his best years UNDER Parcells. So, that is the distinguishing factor that enables him to rationalize keeping him. And it is a viable rationalization for certain situations. But Bledsoe is starting to fail even in those situations.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

I agree, it looks like Bledsoe will lead this team someplace....not sure where?

 

[rcaldw]

I can certainly see that Parcells would want to appease Jerry's desire to have a QB of the future in place, but it just doesn't make sense that Romo would be the guy he would do that with.

At least not unless he truly believed in him.

Why would Parcells choose to force feed Jerry and the fans with a guy that came out of college with low expectations (undrafted - small school) and whom Jerry has barely been able to hide his dislike for when a multitude of other guys he could have dug up over the years would have been a much easier sell?

Besides, Romo's status isn't just built on promotion by Parcells - the fact is that Romo has performed well in 8 consecutive preseason games. Not all GREAT games, but not a dud in the bunch. That suggests strongly that Romo can be the real deal - why should we question that until it is proved wrong?

Well, I cringe to give my honest opinion on this one. I'm still of the school of thought that Bill Parcells delights in the idea that he is smarter than everyone else. You can see it in the way he deals with players, the way he deals with the media, and even with the way he deals with the jobs he has taken and refused.

I'm not saying I blame him. If you can do it YOUR way, why not? But I really do think he delights in "finding the gem" that no one else "saw".

I also think that he vastly underestimates the value of a franchise QB. I know that is has been debated adnausium on this board before, so I'll spare the details, but suffice it to say, I'm not sure (despite his stated desire to have played for Parcells) how Troy Aikman would have ever done under Bill Parcells.

So, I think this would explain WHY FORCE A ROMO ON JERRY.

Having said that, I TOO HAVE SEEN INDICATIONS THAT ROMO MIGHT BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY DO THE JOB.

I still have my doubts. I believe that a guy making it from a division II school is definitely the EXCEPTION not the rule, but maybe Romo will be the exception.

I for one would like to find out.

 

[sf49rh8r]

When Romo is the better option, he will start. Parcells has never shied away from making a change, with any player, no matter how much he likes him, or how entrenched as one of "Parcells Guys" that player is. If someone better is on the team, he will start.

At this point, Romo doesn't qualify. These terrible, terrible games are out of character for Bledsoe. He's not that bad - that we know of.

If he keeps it up, and proves that he is, that bad, Romo will get the nod. Right now, Bledsoe gives us the best chance to win.

Sorry SP but I have to disagree with you. I have friends that are both NE fans and Bills fans and they warned me of all of this when we acquired Drew. His inconsistency is legendary. These bonehead passes aren't anything new. He racks up big yards but he's always had a flair for the bonehead pass. We aren't seeing anything new. And it isn't going to change. I made excuses against Jacksonville for him. That he might have injured himself well this may have been the case again. On his run he looked dazed and confused after that hit. And played terrible from there on. If BP can't tell when he's hurt and out of it then we have a problem at the head coaching position. If he's not hurt then he is just killing us with his passes. Personally, I say put the kid in. Let him make his mistakes but at least look to the future. :bang2: :bang2: :bang2:

 

[sf49rh8r]

That's funny...I did the same thing the night before!

With his wife?

 

[Stautner]

Well, I cringe to give my honest opinion on this one. I'm still of the school of thought that Bill Parcells delights in the idea that he is smarter than everyone else. You can see it in the way he deals with players, the way he deals with the media, and even with the way he deals with the jobs he has taken and refused.

I'm not saying I blame him. If you can do it YOUR way, why not? But I really do think he delights in "finding the gem" that no one else "saw".

I also think that he vastly underestimates the value of a franchise QB. I know that is has been debated adnausium on this board before, so I'll spare the details, but suffice it to say, I'm not sure (despite his stated desire to have played for Parcells) how Troy Aikman would have ever done under Bill Parcells.

So, I think this would explain WHY FORCE A ROMO ON JERRY.

Having said that, I TOO HAVE SEEN INDICATIONS THAT ROMO MIGHT BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY DO THE JOB.

I still have my doubts. I'm believe that a guy making it from a division II school is definitely the EXCEPTION not the rule, but maybe Romo will be the exception.

I for one would like to find out.

Come on - you really expect anyone to believe Parcells has pushed Romo out of some ego trip to show he can outsmart everyone .......?

As for delighting in finding the "gem" that no one else saw - that"s Jerry Jones territory (ie. Quincy Carter).

I'm not saying Parcells doesn't think highly of his ability to find a gem (a better term might be "judging talent" rather than sounding like it's just a fluke to find one), but do you really think that Parcells is merely trying to prove something without any foundation for believing it?

Doesn't the fact that you admit that you see the potential in Romo disprove what you are saying - at least to some degree? After all the 8 consecutive strong preseason performances by Romo haven't just been a promotional gimmick by Parcells - they actually happened.

As for Aikman - he would have been an ideal Parcells QB. I don't at all think Parcells underestimates the value of a franchise QB - he just has a different definition. To him a franchise QB isn't one who puts up huge numbers, but is one who guides the ship, provides leadership, doesn't do things to undermine the offense, runs the offense with precision and as designed, makes the necessary plays - basically Phil Simms. Aikman was very much the same type of QB.

 

[rcaldw]

Come on - you really expect anyone to believe Parcells has pushed Romo out of some ego trip to show he can outsmart everyone .......?

As for delighting in finding the "gem" that no one else saw - that"s Jerry Jones territory (ie. Quincy Carter).

I'm not saying Parcells doesn't think highly of his ability to find a gem here and there (a better term might be "judging talent" rather than making it sound like a crap shoot), but do you really think that's all Parcells is merely trying to prove something without any foundation for believing it?

Doesn't the fact that you admit that you see the potential in Romo disprove what you are saying - at least to some degree? After allm the 8 consecutive strong preseason performances by Romo haven't just been a promotional gimmick by Parcells - they actually happened.

As for Aikman - he would have been an ideal Parcells QB. I don't at all think Parcells underestimates the value of a franchise QB - he just has a different definition. To him a franchise QB isn't one who puts up huge numbers, but is one who guides the ship, provides leadership, doesn't do things to undermine the offense, runs the offense with precision and as designed - basically Phil Simms. Aikman was very much the same type of QB.

Troy Aikman was much more talented than Phil Simms. And do I think that Parcells will take a guy with NO TALENT and try to make something of him just to prove a point? OF COURSE NOT.

What I am suggesting, and do believe, is that if you give Parcells a choice of two fairly equal guys, and one represents the conventional wisdom, and the other has the potential to make him look smarter than you, he will choose the underdog time after time. You would dispute that?