Parcell's silence is a negotiating ploy!!

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I do believe that after any disappointing or semi-disappointing season at his age, you always consider retirement, BUT I highly doubt the organization would have been making the moves over the last 2 years that it has, if he didn't have a long term interest in building this team to winner status.

Some indicators:

Getting rid of long snapper Robinson and players such as Vollers and Walters, and then stating that he is planning for the future and they wouldn't have been here after this year anyway.

Switching to a 3-4:

Glover and Ellis, 2 of our best defensive players do not fit the scheme. Plus, we lacked the depth and experience at LB to do this easily in one season, yet we went ahead and drafted players for it. Parcells knows this isn't a one year process. It is still ongoing.

Adding his old guys like Glenn, Keyshawn, etc:

These guys will not play as spiritedly for another coach, and in fact can be problematic in other circumstances. Not to mention they won't last 5 more years anyway, so I see them sticking with Parcells for a couple more years and then hanging them up as a group.

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Basically speaking, Parcells leaving now would decimate this team in some ways as we would be half way through a rebuild/re-organization. The first 2 years of Parcells' tenure in Dallas were a write off as we were seduced by year one into thinking the team was better than it was (mainly at QB with Carter and on D which ranked first that season) when neither was the case. Year two brought reality. Year 3 was the rebuild/reorganize. If Parcells leaves we have no identity at all, whereas we are halfway to having one now at least.

I don't get feeling Jones is upset with head coach at all (although I think he's skeptical about a few assistants) and I don't think Jones is dumb enough to put this team in such jeopardy in the case Parcells just leaves. In a sense Parcells has the organization by the short hairs since the rebuild is taking slightly longer than hoped, so unless we can make a massive improvement this offseason and win a super bowl, we need another year or two to really be a strong contender in Parcell's image.

I think the whole deal is a negotiation ploy, and that Parcells will end up signing a 2 year extension beyond next season. He likes the team and has gotten his way on just about everything. He has nothing to complain about except the results and some of that is his and his hand picked coaching staff's responsibility. I don't think he would abandon ship despite having done it before, because he has had the authority and hence the responsibility to get the JOB Done in Big D, as well as he seems relatively healthy if a bit drained.

We are close. We are looking decent on D and have weapons on offense, if the oline can do it's job.

Just my thoughts. If Parcells does jump ship, we are set back at least another year though as we would need to rethink whole 3-4 again and start replacing Parcell's players like Key, Glenn, Glenn, Campbell, etc who won't be as psyched/motivated anymore!

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I think the Tuna is burnt out .....
Long season with lots of rookies and nail bitting games, Heck took alot out of me !!!!
He also went through several deaths this year including his brother.....

I think if he did not like the players and the Organization and the knowledge that this is a career ending choice giving his age ....

Without these factors he might have already quit and now I think he just dose not want to make an emotional choice .....

He will get rested and think it out clearly....
 

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I highly doubt Parcells will go to another team. He even said this is his last stop.

Losing a sibling would suck the wind outta anyone, true.

Didn't Parcells get divorced again a few years ago?

Football is his life. He doesn't know anything else. The players on this team like him and are trying for him and he likes them. Hell, a bunch of the players on this team are here for him. I highly doubt he abandons them.

What else is Parcells gonna do. Watching the ponies ain't gonna cut it full time and I don't think he wants to do much TV anymore.

He isn't ticked at the organization as he was elsewhere and he isn't experiencing major health issues that we know about.

Energy levels and enjoyment are the key. But then he's never had a heck of a lot of fun and admits that. He wants one last legacy and has the opportunity to do it. This is what he knows and loves.

His biggest issue is that he is a control freak and doesn't like independent assistant coaches, he likes a strict hierarchy. The problem with that is just about everything rests on his shoulders and he might not have strength to deal with all of it.

I'd love to see him bring in some real veteran coaches as assistants to help him, but he probably would rather quit.
 

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Parcells silence......stinks.

Ya see, I know I keep beating on the guy...but can you just imagine if Drew Bledsoe was doing the same thing?

Parcells would be fuming...

He said he has no timetable for his decision about next year...that's the height of arrogance. Does someone need to remind him that he has a contract?

Let's not forget boys and girls, this is the guy who left the Giants when it was too late for them to hire a qualified coach...this is the guy who didn't go home on the team plane with he Patriot players after the super bowl.

My only point about this is, it speaks to his arrogance...one standard for his behavior...one for everyone else...

Ya got a contract? Be a stand up guy and say "Of course I'll be back...I have a contract and I intend to meet my obligation"

But not Parcells...this is all too enticing for him...he just loves the spotlight...even if it creates turmoil in the organization....
 

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LarryCanadian said:
I do believe that after any disappointing or semi-disappointing season at his age, you always consider retirement
Are you suggesting that we had a disappointing or semi-disappointing season? I hope not because improvement from 6 wins to 9 is a pretty big deal. If we only had a kicker that could have been 11. We obviously improved since last year. Another offseason of upgrades could have us contending next year.
 

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Juke99 said:
Parcells silence......stinks.

Ya see, I know I keep beating on the guy...but can you just imagine if Drew Bledsoe was doing the same thing?

Parcells would be fuming...

He said he has no timetable for his decision about next year...that's the height of arrogance. Does someone need to remind him that he has a contract?

Let's not forget boys and girls, this is the guy who left the Giants when it was too late for them to hire a qualified coach...this is the guy who didn't go home on the team plane with he Patriot players after the super bowl.

My only point about this is, it speaks to his arrogance...one standard for his behavior...one for everyone else...

Ya got a contract? Be a stand up guy and say "Of course I'll be back...I have a contract and I intend to meet my obligation"

But not Parcells...this is all too enticing for him...he just loves the spotlight...even if it creates turmoil in the organization....

Now thats what I'm sayin'.

Why differ from the topic, instead of diffuse it ? Especially if he intends on fulfilling his contract.

I feel the same way about Favre. The Packers basically are trying to force Favres hand by firing Sherman today.
 

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I agree, its typlical for him to posture for attention. He also has us by the kiwi's since we're in a 3-4 and moreover, their are no other "top notch" coaches out there. There are only 2 coaches I'd feel confident to replace him, JJ & Weiss.
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Juke99 said:
Parcells silence......stinks.

Ya see, I know I keep beating on the guy...but can you just imagine if Drew Bledsoe was doing the same thing?

Parcells would be fuming...

He said he has no timetable for his decision about next year...that's the height of arrogance. Does someone need to remind him that he has a contract?

Let's not forget boys and girls, this is the guy who left the Giants when it was too late for them to hire a qualified coach...this is the guy who didn't go home on the team plane with he Patriot players after the super bowl.

My only point about this is, it speaks to his arrogance...one standard for his behavior...one for everyone else...

Ya got a contract? Be a stand up guy and say "Of course I'll be back...I have a contract and I intend to meet my obligation"

But not Parcells...this is all too enticing for him...he just loves the spotlight...even if it creates turmoil in the organization....


Couldnt there just be issues that he and Jones need to discuss? I dont see the problem here. If he takes a week to decide after talking things over with Jones who does it hurt? There arent any decent replacements right now today, infact there arent any good ones available any time soon.
Eight coaches got the heave ho in the last day or two and I wouldnt want one of them.
 

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I'm afraid this could possibly be it for Parcells. I think he's burned out, and I think I know that he's upset that he wasted 2 years in this deal.

I don't think he intended for the 1st 2 years to be years of wasted time doing nothing to bring in his type of scheme/players/coaches. He just started his true plan last off-season and 9-7 is an embarrassment to him after he semi put this squad together last year.

I think he's a little concerned with Drew Bledsoe and his sparatic throws, and that's probably why he had the leash on him. I know he's concerned about the O Line and his WR core and some big parts on the Defensive side.

It just may be a little bit too much for him right now to make a decision, and where ever he vacations in the next couple of weeks will say it all. The loved ones around him could convince him to move on and enjoy the rest of his life in Jersey, and he could do that.
 

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I'm afraid this could possibly be it for Parcells. I think he's burned out, and I think I know that he's upset that he wasted 2 years in this deal.

I don't think he intended for the 1st 2 years to be years of wasted time doing nothing to bring in his type of scheme/players/coaches. He just started his true plan last off-season and 9-7 is an embarrassment to him after he semi put this squad together last year.

I think he's a little concerned with Drew Bledsoe and his sparatic throws, and that's probably why he had the leash on him. I know he's concerned about the O Line and his WR core and some big parts on the Defensive side.

It just may be a little bit too much for him right now to make a decision, and where ever he vacations in the next couple of weeks will say it all. The loved ones around him could convince him to move on and enjoy the rest of his life in Jersey, and he could do that.

Not to be a smartazz but how do you *Know* all this? It seems JJ himself doesnt know, but you do? One thing I do know about Parcells is noone influences his decisions. That he has proven.
 

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Dave_in-NC said:
Couldnt there just be issues that he and Jones need to discuss? I dont see the problem here. If he takes a week to decide after talking things over with Jones who does it hurt? There arent any decent replacements right now today, infact there arent any good ones available any time soon.
Eight coaches got the heave ho in the last day or two and I wouldnt want one of them.


He has a contract, right?

'nuff said in my opinion. Honor the contract. Stop the attention ***** routine.

He's either on board, or he's not.

This is what happens when an old man is the head coach. If he needs time to decide whether or not he wants to come back...whether or not he is worn out...then move on to watching the horse races at Saratoga.
 

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If Parcells is silent for a better contract, I would prefer to see him walk away.

He DOESNT deserve a raise.
 

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Dave_in-NC said:
Not to be a smartazz but how do you *Know* all this? It seems JJ himself doesnt know, but you do? One thing I do know about Parcells is noone influences his decisions. That he has proven.
I said I think. IMO, We're giving opinions right?
 

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mickgreen58 said:
If Parcells is silent for a better contract, I would prefer to see him walk away.

He DOESNT deserve a raise.

If he wants a raise so bad Jerry can buy him some Viagra....grrr:grrr:
 

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Juke99 said:
He has a contract, right?

'nuff said in my opinion. Honor the contract. Stop the attention ***** routine.

He's either on board, or he's not.

This is what happens when an old man is the head coach. If he needs time to decide whether or not he wants to come back...whether or not he is worn out...then move on to watching the horse races at Saratoga.

I sure wouldnt make this decision this fast either. We dont know whats being discussed if any thing. Maybe he wants some assistants gone or kept. Jones is still the GM of this team. Its not uncomon for coaches and gms to discuss things after the season. Jones himself said neither party wanted to discuss what was going to happen untill the season was over. Thats less than twenty four hours ago. If Jones is ok with that so am I. its not my check book. :D
 

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Dave_in-NC said:
I sure wouldnt make this decision this fast either. We dont know whats being discussed if any thing. Maybe he wants some assistants gone or kept. Jones is still the GM of this team. Its not uncomon for coaches and gms to discuss things after the season. Jones himself said neither party wanted to discuss what was going to happen untill the season was over. Thats less than twenty four hours ago. If Jones is ok with that so am I. its not my check book. :D


Take a look around the league...how many coaches are you aware of who are doing this? If they have a contract next year, it's simply a given that they are coming back next year...

This is going on with Parcells because of his age...and because he loves the drama.

At least that's my opinion.

This is a $4.5 million employee of the Cowboys...who has a contractual obligation.

Whatever...it's all conjecture. :)
 

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Juke99 said:
Take a look around the league...how many coaches are you aware of who are doing this? If they have a contract next year, it's simply a given that they are coming back next year...

This is going on with Parcells because of his age...and because he loves the drama.

At least that's my opinion.

This is a $4.5 million employee of the Cowboys...who has a contractual obligation.

Whatever...it's all conjecture. :)

Was Parcells your little legue coach or some thing? :) You sure dont like the guy.
 

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Juke99 said:
Take a look around the league...how many coaches are you aware of who are doing this? If they have a contract next year, it's simply a given that they are coming back next year...

This is going on with Parcells because of his age...and because he loves the drama.

At least that's my opinion.

This is a $4.5 million employee of the Cowboys...who has a contractual obligation.

Whatever...it's all conjecture. :)

Juke, is there any other Coaches who have acted like this in the past or currently acting like this, that you know of?

Most of the ones I am familiar with are those that could be fired or not, not ones who have been offered an extension and turned it down.
 

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Dave_in-NC said:
Was Parcells your little legue coach or some thing? :) You sure dont like the guy.


:)

I used to like him very much...right behind Landry and Jimmy Johnson...but this ain't the same guy...

And he invites this kind of criticism with his arrogance. If he was a humble man, I'd probably be less of a lunatic about him...but he's a .500 coach with this team.

And my little league coach at least bought us ice pops after each game. :D
 

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mickgreen58 said:
Juke, is there any other Coaches who have acted like this in the past or currently acting like this, that you know of?

Most of the ones I am familiar with are those that could be fired or not, not ones who have been offered an extension and turned it down.

Hey Mick...

It's a combination of his age (at the end of every season we're gonna go through this...we went through it last year as well)...and his love for drama.

This is how it was in NE..with the Jets...this is just Parcells.

And no, I don't know of any other coach who has behaved like this....certainly not the greats...

Pat Riley pulled a few stunts like this...that's about all that comes to mind.
 
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