Parcells stay/go perspective

[Spectre]

With Parcells in 2007:

at best: Super Bowl Championship
at worst: 9-7, possible playoff appearance
most likely: 10-6, 1 or 2 win improvement, deep playoff run

With a 1st time Dallas Coach in 2007:

at best: 10-6, loss in playoffs
at worst: 6-10, no playoff appearance
most likely: 8-8, 1 or 2 loss regression, no playoff run



I stand by the above results. The potential upside in 2007 w/ Parcells is much higher than with a 1st year coach and the downside is as marginal.
Odds are, you're not getting a Jimmie Johnson or Bill Cowher but rather a 1st time NFL coach from the college level.

 

[D-BOI99]

With Parcells in 2007:

at best: Super Bowl Championship
at worst: 9-7, possible playoff appearance
most likely: 10-6, 1 or 2 win improvement, deep playoff run

With a 1st time Dallas Coach in 2007:

at best: 10-6, loss in playoffs
at worst: 6-10, no playoff appearance
most likely: 8-8, 1 or 2 loss regression, no playoff run



I stand by the above results. The potential upside in 2007 w/ Parcells is much higher than with a 1st year coach and the downside is as marginal.
Odds are, you're not getting a Jimmie Johnson or Bill Cowher but rather a 1st time NFL coach from the college level.

How in the world can u predict what will happen if parcells stays or not. If he does leave we don't even know who the next coach will be. These type of predictions are ludacris and pointless.

 

[Rack]

How in the world can u predict what will happen if parcells stays or not. If he does leave we don't even know who the next coach will be. These type of predictions are ludacris and pointless.

Pay attention, Susan, it wasn't a prediction. It was his opinion.


And your kind of posts are pointless.

 

[D-BOI99]

Pay attention, Susan, it wasn't a prediction. It was his opinion.


And your kind of posts are pointless.

Whatever BETTY.....I was making my opinion on his opinion. There was no facts to what he said because like I said we don't know who the coach will be if parcells leaves. Saying we'll be 10-6 with parcells and 8-8 without him sounds like a freakin predicition to me BETTY. Your pointless

 

[Dave_in-NC]

You can predict all you want but there are coaches who get replaced and the team takes off. N.O. comes to mind. The problem is we aren't in line to sign a top notch RB or a Breese.
Parcells has put the talent together, not at every position but no team has that. The Pats are probably the closest on both sides of the ball although Indy has found some defense.
There won't be a ton of roster moves on our team next season. So to say a new coach couldn't take this team to the playoffs makes no sense.
The problem I see is different than what most around here see.

The players are most of the problem. Even better, the players on the defensive side of the ball. They were torched by NO and lost confidence. They never bounced up and dusted themselves off. They didn't have a winners mentality that allows a shot on the chin and you keep fighting.

New coach or not they need to scrape themselves off the ground. If they can do that the team is in good shape to take it to the next level. If not it doesn't matter who wears the headset.

 

[Spectre]

There's an adjustment curve (usually downward) for a coach joining a new team, especially one from the college ranks.

If there won't be many roster moves made in FA this season then no is more qualified to get the most out of this team than the current head coach as he brought them here and created this team in his vision.

My "predicitions" were simply a liklihood based upon past production from Parcells in Dallas and new coaches elsewhere in their first season.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

There's an adjustment curve (usually downward) for a coach joining a new team, especially one from the college ranks.

If there won't be many roster moves made in FA this season then no is more qualified to get the most out of this team than the current head coach as he brought them here and created this team in his vision.

My "predicitions" were simply a liklihood based upon past production from Parcells in Dallas and new coaches elsewhere in their first season.

I'm not disagreeing with you. I want Parcells back because I think if the players on one side of the ball wake up, we can win. People say Parcells lost this team. How do you lose half a team? The defensive players just crumbled under pressure.

 

[Clove]

It's sad that we are consistantly one of the least injured teams, going up against injured teams consistantly, and we still can't advance. Getting embarrassed at home to the Aint's, just sad.

Bending over and allowing Philly to spank us the way they did, if us fans have to endure football like that one more year, we all may riot.

However, if we do bring him back, I will assume that the entire Cowboy fan nation will be expecting a Super Bowl appearance, or atleast the NFC championship.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

It's sad that we are consistantly one of the least injured teams, going up against injured teams consistantly, and we still can't advance. Getting embarrassed at home to the Aint's, just sad.

Bending over and allowing Philly to spank us the way they did, if us fans have to endure football like that one more year, we all may riot.

However, if we do bring him back, I will assume that the entire Cowboy fan nation will be expecting a Super Bowl appearance, or atleast the NFC championship.

What the Saints did was very embarrassing. To their credit they will represent the NFC in the SB. They are a very good team riding a state wide high.

 

[Bleu Star]

What the Saints did was very embarrassing. To their credit they will represent the NFC in the SB. They are a very good team riding a state wide high.

I agree with the "very good team" part but have a difficult time agreeing with the "riding a state wide high" part. I've seen a number of people say that. I believe they're just a very good team. They'll be very good again next year too.

 

[Spectre]

What the Saints did was very embarrassing. To their credit they will represent the NFC in the SB. They are a very good team riding a state wide high.

good for them.
they deserve it imo.

they sure did kick our ***.

 

[noshame]

I'm not disagreeing with you. I want Parcells back because I think if the players on one side of the ball wake up, we can win. People say Parcells lost this team. How do you lose half a team? The defensive players just crumbled under pressure.

How do you lose half a team? The young aggressive players you drafted don't buy into your passive system.

That would be my guess

 

[cowboyed]

With Parcells in 2007:

at best: Super Bowl Championship
at worst: 9-7, possible playoff appearance
most likely: 10-6, 1 or 2 win improvement, deep playoff run

With a 1st time Dallas Coach in 2007:

at best: 10-6, loss in playoffs
at worst: 6-10, no playoff appearance
most likely: 8-8, 1 or 2 loss regression, no playoff run



I stand by the above results. The potential upside in 2007 w/ Parcells is much higher than with a 1st year coach and the downside is as marginal.
Odds are, you're not getting a Jimmie Johnson or Bill Cowher but rather a 1st time NFL coach from the college level.

Brilliant post, so how do you account Sean Payton having the New Orleans Saints playing in the championship game?

 

[philo beddoe]

I say we do as well with a Bob Stoops as we would with BP. BP will bring us another 9-8 season or worse. Big deal. Time to move forward. BP has no magic, hasn't for years.

 

[Spectre]

Brilliant post, so how do you account Sean Payton having the New Orleans Saints playing in the championship game?

let's see...

not a college level coach
signed Drew Brees
drafted Reggie Bush (R.O.T.Y. candidate)
drafted Marques Colston (R.O.T.Y candidate)
renewed vigor for team as a result of Katrina aftermath

 

[cowboyed]

let's see...

not a college level coach
signed Drew Brees
drafted Reggie Bush (R.O.T.Y. candidate)
drafted Marques Colston (R.O.T.Y candidate)
renewed vigor for team as a result of Katrina aftermath

Well Spectre Marques Colston wasn't a first round draft choice and Payton developed him. I guess Parcells isn't the only guy with an eye for talent. Overall on offense we have as much if not more talent as the Saints. Paytons defense does not have as much talent as the Cowboys but played competitively in the meaningful games.

Whichever way you cut it Payton is a first year head coach. That is a daunting transition from a coordinators position particularly one who has had limited control while toiling under Parcells.

I am not disagreeing that from a probability standpoint a first year head coach may not be as successful as Parcells. However, how far have we come with Parcells. We seem to hit that December wall each and every year despite his player and coaching acquistions and associated control.