Parcells unwilling to label Luck top pick in April's draft

[xwalker]

You should be. Luck is the most polished QB I have seen since Peyton Manning.

I want his teammate David DeCastro in the 1st.

Would you trade up to get DeCastro?

 

[drawnstripes]

Would you trade up to get DeCastro?

I would not

JMO

 

[cruz_aedo861]

I'd would rather have Barkley over luck. If i had the #1 pick i would make a herschel walker trade and stock up on picks

 

[Arch Stanton]

I have no idea what you're trying to say.

His style reminds me of a poster that used to have Mr Burns as his avatar.

Can't remember the name. What ever happened to him?

 

[Sarge]

Luck is going to the Colts as the first pick - period.

 

[burmafrd]

pretty sad- a madden wannabe who supposedly never played madden. Just very sad.

 

[Hostile]

Would you trade up to get DeCastro?

It wouldn't bother me, but we don't have to.

 

[Bluestang]

I read somewhere that Parcells was trying to get Luck's draft stock to go down so that Miami would get into position to possible get him. However, I think that is just the media's take on that.

As great as a coach Parcells is, he wasn't the only one calling the shots during draft day. I invite you to read this:

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2011/11/25/2586370/understanding-the-dallas-draft-process

Back to Miami, so what has Parcells done over there for that team? What is that second rounder Pat White up to these days? What about the QB situtation? Proof is in the pudding...

 

[TwoCentPlain]

Says the guy who didn't see a star in Ware but saw something in Bobby Carpenter and Spears.

Yeah, OK, Charley Tuna.

Although, I personally don't see what the big deal is with Luck. I don't think he will ever be as good as Marino, Brady, Elway, etc. I don't think Luck will be as good as Cam Newton either.

And, I wouldn't put any money down that Luck will have a better career than Romo after all is said and done.

Who knows? I just don't see Luck as being the best QB of this draft class.

 

[burmafrd]

I read somewhere that Parcells was trying to get Luck's draft stock to go down so that Miami would get into position to possible get him. However, I think that is just the media's take on that.

As great as a coach Parcells is, he wasn't the only one calling the shots during draft day. I invite you to read this:

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2011/11/25/2586370/understanding-the-dallas-draft-process

Back to Miami, so what has Parcells done over there for that team? What is that second rounder Pat White up to these days? What about the QB situtation? Proof is in the pudding...

Word is that BP pretty much stood back at the draft; but the people he picked did not seem to do too well at picking draft choices.

 

[burmafrd]

Says the guy who didn't see a star in Ware but saw something in Bobby Carpenter and Spears.

Yeah, OK, Charley Tuna.

Although, I personally don't see what the big deal is with Luck. I don't think he will ever be as good as Marino, Brady, Elway, etc. I don't think Luck will be as good as Cam Newton either.

And, I wouldn't put any money down that Luck will have a better career than Romo after all is said and done.

Who knows? I just don't see Luck as being the best QB of this draft class.

he seemed to think Ware was going to be pretty good; and he was the one that made sure Ware learned the WHOLE game. And show me anyone who really hits all his picks; remember Jimmy? He only hit about 1/3 of his. The big difference was due to the stupidity of the Vikes and others he had SO many picks that even at one third hits he got a lot of them. Oh and remember how we got Emmit by mistake? Jimmy had his eye on someone else who in the end was no big deal. And who was the primary one pushing the drafting of WalsH?

 

[xwalker]

he seemed to think Ware was going to be pretty good; and he was the one that made sure Ware learned the WHOLE game. And show me anyone who really hits all his picks; remember Jimmy? He only hit about 1/3 of his. The big difference was due to the stupidity of the Vikes and others he had SO many picks that even at one third hits he got a lot of them. Oh and remember how we got Emmit by mistake? Jimmy had his eye on someone else who in the end was no big deal.

Yes, everybody misses on draft picks. The problem with Parcells was the reasons (Ego) that he missed.

He went against scouts on the following players:

Jacob Rogers - Picked him because his Dad was a coach.
Barbie Carpenter - Picked him because his Dad was a player.
Julius Jones - Picked him because Maurice Carthon said he was just as good as Stephen Jackson.

FYI - The player Jimmy wanted was LB James Francis.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Well, I'm sure he will be the #1 pick, but I'm glad someone agrees with me that he isn't the guaranteed next Manning, Brady, or Rodgers that so many are claiming.

 

[burmafrd]

Yes, everybody misses on draft picks. The problem with Parcells was the reasons (Ego) that he missed.

He went against scouts on the following players:

Jacob Rogers - Picked him because his Dad was a coach.
Barbie Carpenter - Picked him because his Dad was a player.
Julius Jones - Picked him because Maurice Carthon said he was just as good as Stephen Jackson.

FYI - The player Jimmy wanted was LB James Francis.

so what were Jimmy's excuses?

 

[drawnstripes]

Word is that BP pretty much stood back at the draft; but the people he picked did not seem to do too well at picking draft choices.

hm thats why Jerry

2003 draft Newman

The night before the 2003 draft, scouts and personnel people wanted the team to draft Terence Newman, the cornerback from Kansas State, if he was available.

Parcells preferred Oklahoma State defensive tackle Kevin Williams.
Owner/general manager Jerry Jones took Parcells out to dinner and convinced him Newman was the better choice. The next day, Dallas selected Newman as the No. 5 pick in the first round, and he's started every game since.
"It's been off and on," said Larry Lacewell, the Cowboys' retired scouting director, who worked with Parcells in his first two seasons in Dallas. "Under Parcells, it was him. Before, it was scouts and whoever. ... We got Jerry and Stephen [Jones] to take him out and made him mad and told him we're going to take Newman."
Coaches wanting one player and scouts wanting another is a common occurrence in NFL draft rooms.

By CALVIN WATKINS / The Dallas Morning News

 

[drawnstripes]

Luck is going to the Colts as the first pick - period.

true enuf Sarge

 

[drawnstripes]

pretty sad- a madden wannabe who supposedly never played madden. Just very sad.

:yousuck: never had the ugre to play games ESP MADDEN

I much rather live life

I know it boring way out there in the Sand Dunes but you must get out more

 

[junk]

hm thats why Jerry

2003 draft Newman

The night before the 2003 draft, scouts and personnel people wanted the team to draft Terence Newman, the cornerback from Kansas State, if he was available.

Parcells preferred Oklahoma State defensive tackle Kevin Williams.
Owner/general manager Jerry Jones took Parcells out to dinner and convinced him Newman was the better choice. The next day, Dallas selected Newman as the No. 5 pick in the first round, and he's started every game since.
"It's been off and on," said Larry Lacewell, the Cowboys' retired scouting director, who worked with Parcells in his first two seasons in Dallas. "Under Parcells, it was him. Before, it was scouts and whoever. ... We got Jerry and Stephen [Jones] to take him out and made him mad and told him we're going to take Newman."
Coaches wanting one player and scouts wanting another is a common occurrence in NFL draft rooms.

By CALVIN WATKINS / The Dallas Morning News

Parcells had his fair share of draft gaffes, no doubt about it.

However, Kevin Williams over Newman was the right call. Williams has tailed off later in his career, but he was a terror early on.

Newman has been solid, but personally I don't think he's ever been anything special. I know there will be people that disagree with that, but Williams was a 5x All Pro, 6x Pro Bowler and part of the All Decade team. Newman has never been an All Pro and only made the Pro Bowl twice.

Beyond that, I'll never understand the desire from some Cowboys fans to totally discredit Parcells any chance they get. He literally turned this franchise around. I guess if you like 5-11 seasons, then discrediting Parcells time in Dallas is probably a worthwhile exercise. Otherwise, it just seems silly.

 

[realtick]

Well, I'm sure he will be the #1 pick, but I'm glad someone agrees with me that he isn't the guaranteed next Manning, Brady, or Rodgers that so many are claiming.

Way to go out on a limb there, as if gauranteeing Luck as the next Peyton Manning means anything in reality anyways.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

I like the part where he brought in our 3 best players and at least 1 HOF'er in Ware

Parcells had his fair share of draft gaffes, no doubt about it.

However, Kevin Williams over Newman was the right call. Williams has tailed off later in his career, but he was a terror early on.

Newman has been solid, but personally I don't think he's ever been anything special. I know there will be people that disagree with that, but Williams was a 5x All Pro, 6x Pro Bowler and part of the All Decade team. Newman has never been an All Pro and only made the Pro Bowl twice.

Beyond that, I'll never understand the desire from some Cowboys fans to totally discredit Parcells any chance they get. He literally turned this franchise around. I guess if you like 5-11 seasons, then discrediting Parcells time in Dallas is probably a worthwhile exercise. Otherwise, it just seems silly.