Parsons is not built to be dominant pass rusher

erod

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It is puzzling.

Micah is a linebacker who you can move all over the place and cause havoc. That's what they were doing initially with him.

Now they are just rushing him off the edge, and he's getting worn down.

Especially confusing because this team is so deep in the front line off the edges. Lawrence, Armstrong, Williams, Fowler, and even Barr can do this...

Parsons looks ordinary lately. He's beaten up and exhausted.
 

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He isn't that good at lb. I don't see first round 10th pick.

I think he was PFFs highest graded
LBr prospect like ever and he was a unanimous blue chip prospect on almost everyone’s rankings.

You make it sound like he’s never played the position before.
 

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I remember people saying he was the next LT...MP is a very good player don't get me wrong but at this point in the season, he's not a game changer and at times he's completely invisible, putting him at De is a mistake. We need him at lb.
 

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I love Micah and his play but we are seeing the reality of his limitations as a Dominant pass rusher.
He lacks the overall size to be in the league of great Pass Rushers.
Teams have clearly figured out how to neutralize him and it's obvious that he is not totally healthy.
The season and wear and tear has clearly taken a toll on him. It's hard to expect someone his size, kind of a tweener of a LB and a DE to handle the pounding.
He is getting no help from the interior of the Line and from the other Side DE's and teams can just focus on stopping him without much worry about others.

The thread title seems to be in error.

it probably should be titled as " Not built to be a DE ",.......vs. " not built to be dominant pass rusher "

- Is he being used as a DE in Quinn's scheme ... or is he being used as a TJ Watt like OLB in Quinn's scheme ?
Is Armstrong the starting DE .. or is it Parsons ?

- Make no mistake; Parsons is in that TJ Watt or DeMarcus Ware mold. That's an irresistable force as a edge pass rusher and that's why
teams counter scheme and game plan.
He does us far less in reverse, in coverage, and that's what an opposing team would love to much rather have.

- I could see the concerns of those that think Parsons is taking too much of a wear n tear toll going vs 330+ OTs .
.and double team chips...on seemingly an every series, every down basis.
Quinn would have to devise ways and schemes where he's going more vs TEs ..than every down 330 lb OTs.
 

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I love Micah and his play but we are seeing the reality of his limitations as a Dominant pass rusher.
He lacks the overall size to be in the league of great Pass Rushers.
Teams have clearly figured out how to neutralize him and it's obvious that he is not totally healthy.
The season and wear and tear has clearly taken a toll on him. It's hard to expect someone his size, kind of a tweener of a LB and a DE to handle the pounding.
He is getting no help from the interior of the Line and from the other Side DE's and teams can just focus on stopping him without much worry about others.

If the league has him figured out and he still has 13 sacks with 3 games to play, I think we can live with it.

The fact is that even the greatest pass rushers of all time don't get a sack every game. Reggie White and Bruce Smith had stretches were the sacks just didn't happen. Micah is in the midst of a great year and should finish in the top 3 for DPOY.
 

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They gonna kill Parson playing him at DE. He's a linebacker-that's where he should pass rush from-versus getting him killed against way bigger players.
 

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....I was surprised yesterday, they didnt move him around AGAIN. Just wow!....

He barely got enough push, by then QB had let go of ball. Thats on DQ. Like I said, losing faith in this guy.
 

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I think Quinn needs to get him back to playing how he did as a rookie.

He’s a linebacker that’s outstanding at pass rushing. He’s not a DE.
I think he will be playing linebacker the rest of the season with the injury to LVE.
 

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I love Micah and his play but we are seeing the reality of his limitations as a Dominant pass rusher.
He lacks the overall size to be in the league of great Pass Rushers.
Teams have clearly figured out how to neutralize him and it's obvious that he is not totally healthy.
The season and wear and tear has clearly taken a toll on him. It's hard to expect someone his size, kind of a tweener of a LB and a DE to handle the pounding.
He is getting no help from the interior of the Line and from the other Side DE's and teams can just focus on stopping him without much worry about others.

Seems to me like teams have adjusted their game plans just because of Micah Parsons. Everybody just runs short quick hitting routes or screens now, and our back end just sucks too much to stop it. Doesn't help teams can run at will on us either.
 

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Parsons seems to be injury or overworked. He isn't playing with the same intensity , that is obvious.
 

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Parsons came in 5 pounds lighter this season and has had to take on a lot of double teams. He’s dealt with a couple of injuries this season, which he didn’t deal with his rookie year. He he got off to a real fast start this season but now looks worn down and beat up. He was playing much better last year at this time. Opponents have figured out ways to neutralize him.
 

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If our DB's continue to fail we will rely upon pass rush more and more as teams have now figured out that not only can they run the ball down our throats, they can throw it all over the place away from #7 and succeed....in essence we are a mess and our one guy who can getcha is being manhandled with no fear of anybody coming from the other side. What do I know, I am an idiot, lol
 

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I love Micah and his play but we are seeing the reality of his limitations as a Dominant pass rusher.
He lacks the overall size to be in the league of great Pass Rushers.
Teams have clearly figured out how to neutralize him and it's obvious that he is not totally healthy.
The season and wear and tear has clearly taken a toll on him. It's hard to expect someone his size, kind of a tweener of a LB and a DE to handle the pounding.
He is getting no help from the interior of the Line and from the other Side DE's and teams can just focus on stopping him without much worry about others.
Look at Parson's face when the camera is on him, he truly looks like he doesn't want to be there! As his sack totals seem to disappear so does his play. The whole D-line play terrible yesterday, can't get to the QB when they desperately needed a sack and can't stop the run and this team thinks it can compete with Philly and the 9ers........GET OUT OF HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!This team isn't winning another game this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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If the league has him figured out and he still has 13 sacks with 3 games to play, I think we can live with it.

The fact is that even the greatest pass rushers of all time don't get a sack every game. Reggie White and Bruce Smith had stretches were the sacks just didn't happen. Micah is in the midst of a great year and should finish in the top 3 for DPOY.

It’s not just about the sacks though.

It’s about being able to set the edge against the run. Teams have had a lot of success running right at Parsons this year.
 

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....DQ is failing the guy. Move him around.....gee whizz... He lines up, they chip and double team him. He's not superman.
 

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To be fair many of the same fans who are now saying he’s not a DE were the same fans saying we need to use him at DE when they put him back at lb
 

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Why is he too small and Von Miller is just fine?

Micah is 6'3" 245lbs. Von is 6'3" and 250.

TJ Watt is listed at 6'4" 252 lbs.

Hassan Reddick is 6'1" 235lbs.

Shaq Barrett 6'2" 250.

I just think teams have adjusted and are living and dying by running the ball and getting rid of the ball quickly. It is almost impossible to sack guys when this is the case.

It isn’t just adjustments. He isn’t as explosive and isn’t as able to fight through blockers as well as he was earlier this year
 
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