Pass Interference at End of Game

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I went back and looked at this, and the foul occurred at the 30 yard line, but the refs placed the ball at the 35 yard line. Five yards is huge on a long field goal. Am I missing something here?

I also don't understand why the Cowboys didn't try to center the ball on the hashes. Would have went through if that's the case.
 
ryanbabs;4785607 said:
I went back and looked at this, and the foul occurred at the 30 yard line, but the refs placed the ball at the 35 yard line. Five yards is huge on a long field goal. Am I missing something here?

Yea, it looks like we got robbed out of about 2 or 3 yards, but still shouldnt have mattered with 30 seconds and 1 timeout.

No excuse to botch the end of the game like that by Garrett.
 
Good point. I just looked at it again and it is tough to really. Tree should have made the catch. It went right through his hands. He played very poorly today.
 
The officiating was.....really, really, really poor. I think it's safe to say that the majority of the poor calls benefited the Ravens. We still should have won....we beat ourselves, yet again.
 
ryanbabs;4785607 said:
I went back and looked at this, and the foul occurred at the 30 yard line, but the refs placed the ball at the 35 yard line. Five yards is huge on a long field goal. Am I missing something here?

I also don't understand why the Cowboys didn't try to center the ball on the hashes. Would have went through if that's the case.

You would have to have a Head Coach who was on top of this sort of stuff. Jerry was more than likely in bathroom after gin and tonic #7 so it is understandable that he missed that challenge chance.
Red doesn't know to even think about that stuff, he is busy thinking about how to blame players at the next losing press conference.
 
I noticed several instances where the refs robbed us of a yard or two on the spot. This officiating crew was very bad.
 
Those holding calls on Tyron Smith are not holding. I don't know what the refs are watching, Tyron was playing normal and they still kept calling holding on him.

Refs were awful. I think the 2 point play pass to Bryant should have been flagged.
 
ryanbabs;4785607 said:
I went back and looked at this, and the foul occurred at the 30 yard line, but the refs placed the ball at the 35 yard line. Five yards is huge on a long field goal. Am I missing something here?

I also don't understand why the Cowboys didn't try to center the ball on the hashes. Would have went through if that's the case.

The officiating was crap, typical home team favoritism,,, i laugh at all the crying about getting these refs back, they do keep the game moving at a good pace which is nice, but they screw over just as many teams as the replacement refs,,, at least the replacements didn't play favorites.
 
The officiating was not great but it wasn't the reason we lost the game.
 
I suppose that even though it was worse at the 30 yard line, they decided the original foul occurred at the 35?
 
The officiating is biased. I don't care if the stats sheet in the ends say something like 13 penalties 'Boys - 11 penalties the other team.

To me, the officiating is so situationally biased, it's ridiculous, and that is what is costing the team points from opportunities to score. For example, the Tyron Smith holding call which was a first down pushing it back to a 3rd and 15 inside the red zone. Or obvious intentional groundings that aren't called. Or three illegal shifts that rarely ever get called in other games (all once again in or near the red zone area of the opposing team). Are you telling me that all of those shifts just coincidentally occurred there? Or Demarcus Ware getting held and not called or an illegal hands to the face on him or Crawford not getting called, all the while in the redzone for the Ravens, one is called for them. It's just beyond ridiculous now. I don't care if it's my own bias or not. I've learned to trust my gut enough over the years to know something just isn't right about the way some games are called. That Pats cheating fiasco over the past decade does absolutely nothing to calm that doubt either.
 
yentl911;4785638 said:
The officiating was not great but it wasn't the reason we lost the game.

I always marvel at this comment because nobody really knows. You're telling me that the officials killing 2, 3, or 4 drives doesn't affect the game's outcome? it sure as heck could and does on a regular basis. They say it evens out over the course of a season,,, maybe,,, it seems kinda rare though to see that kind of favoritism in Cowboys stadium.
 
SultanOfSix;4785659 said:
The officiating is biased. I don't care if the stats sheet in the ends say something like 13 penalties 'Boys - 11 penalties the other team.

To me, the officiating is so situationally biased, it's ridiculous, and that is what is costing the team points from opportunities to score. For example, the Tyron Smith holding call which was a first down pushing it back to a 3rd and 15 inside the red zone. Or obvious intentional groundings that aren't called. Or three illegal shifts that rarely ever get called in other games (all once again in or near the red zone area of the opposing team). Are you telling me that all of those shifts just coincidentally occurred there? Or Demarcus Ware getting held and not called or an illegal hands to the face on him or Crawford not getting called, all the while in the redzone for the Ravens, one is called for them. It's just beyond ridiculous now. I don't care if it's my own bias or not. I've learned to trust my gut enough over the years to know something just isn't right about the way some games are called. That Pats cheating fiasco over the past decade does absolutely nothing to calm that doubt either.

Situational calls...you hit it on the head. That's where they can control outcomes of games.
 
EGG;4785661 said:
I always marvel at this comment because nobody really knows. You're telling me that the officials killing 2, 3, or 4 drives doesn't affect the game's outcome? it sure as heck could and does on a regular basis. They say it evens out over the course of a season,,, maybe,,, it seems kinda rare though to see that kind of favoritism in Cowboys stadium.

I think the number of calls typically evens out, but not in a situational sense. Calling a suspect holding call on 3rd and long at the end of the game on the Cowboys does not equal another 5 yard offsides on the Ravens on 3rd and long. The penalties on the Cowboys are really game changing penalties.
 
SultanOfSix;4785659 said:
The officiating is biased. I don't care if the stats sheet in the ends say something like 13 penalties 'Boys - 11 penalties the other team.

To me, the officiating is so situationally biased, it's ridiculous, and that is what is costing the team points from opportunities to score. For example, the Tyron Smith holding call which was a first down pushing it back to a 3rd and 15 inside the red zone. Or obvious intentional groundings that aren't called. Or three illegal shifts that rarely ever get called in other games (all once again in or near the red zone area of the opposing team). Are you telling me that all of those shifts just coincidentally occurred there? Or Demarcus Ware getting held and not called or an illegal hands to the face on him or Crawford not getting called, all the while in the redzone for the Ravens, one is called for them. It's just beyond ridiculous now. I don't care if it's my own bias or not. I've learned to trust my gut enough over the years to know something just isn't right about the way some games are called. That Pats cheating fiasco over the past decade does absolutely nothing to calm that doubt either.

I am not much for conspiracy theories, but today's game really was an abomination. Carey seems to delight in making calls against the Cowboys.
 
ryanbabs;4785687 said:
I think the number of calls typically evens out, but not in a situational sense. Calling a suspect holding call on 3rd and long at the end of the game on the Cowboys does not equal another 5 yard offsides on the Ravens on 3rd and long. The penalties on the Cowboys are really game changing penalties.


The Ravens fans would have been yelling the same thing if the Cowboys would have made the kick after the PI call. The fans were pretty loud about how they felt on the call.

It really is hard to watch at times, but a lot of the penalties we get are completely legit. The Cowboys are THAT stupid, and THAT undisciplined. Not all, but most.
 
links18;4785700 said:
I am not much for conspiracy theories, but today's game really was an abomination. Carey seems to delight in making calls against the Cowboys.

I told my friend right at the beginning of the game that this ref will call a ton of penalties on Dallas and some would be BS. All he kept saying was "I cannot believe how this crew is screwing us. You were right.." Sometimes I hate being right. I am still pissed. This feels like AZ last year. I have a terrible feeling that we'll barely miss the playoffs and we'll look back to this game as the one that would have made the difference. :(
 
Think about it. A bad offensive pass interference against Jacoby Jones takes away a game winning TD against the Eagles in week two and an uncalled offensive pass interference against Claiborne is a four point difference in a game we lose by two. Don't tell me bad officiating evens out over the long haul. Not for us it doesn't.
 
How about the 3 false starts, are they "bad" calls by the refs in favor of the Ravens?

It's really lame to blame the refs especially since we had 8 pre-snap penalties in total.

This is just poor coaching, poor preparation, and poor execution.
 
I still don't understand the "Illegal hands to the face" call right before the half, which gave the Ravens a first down on the goal line and allowed to score a TD instead of a FG.

I'm not saying it didn't happen, but I didn't see it if it did.
 

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