Patriots trade DT Davon Godchaux to Saints

kskboys said:
I mean, this is seriously what they've been doing for decades. Look at 2012. One of the deepest DLine drafts around that time, and we trade up for a frickin' CB? Every dam time.

You watch, w/ the salary cap room created it will be more skill position guys. CBs, WRs, maybe a TE or two. That's what we always do. And that's why we cannot win a playoff game.
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Jerry loves building a roster from the WR in. Looks like he applied the same insanity to the defense as well.
 
W/ a 1st spent on Mazi and the new contract for Osa, Jerry considers the DT position addressed. Watch if you don't believe me.
 
TheMarathonContinues said:
I can live with the,overpaying if they are addressing needs. These guys…they traded 4ths for a receiver and a QB…..then waste second rounders on backup tight ends….they are going out of their way to be incompetent.
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It almost looks like Jerry and Stephen are part time employees of the Eagles, assigned to sabotage the Cowboys chances at winning anything. No one can be this self destructive without actually trying to be. Most of their failures seem to be on purpose.
 
Bagman said:
It almost looks like Jerry and Stephen are part time employees of the Eagles, assigned to sabotage the Cowboys chances at winning anything. No one can be this self destructive without actually trying to be. Most of their failures seem to be on purpose.
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I guess being from Arkansas, Jerry hates everything Texas, so maybe he's deliberately trying to keep us out of contention? I mean, this is pure incompetence.
 
For whatever its worth this guys PFF grade against the run has been a 48, 51, and 52 the last three years. I'm not super familiar with the player and wont pretend to be. PFF does have some misses and interior run players are often players that grade out lower than they should because of their scoring system. Is this guy really that big of a miss though? He seems to be pretty OK recently.
 
thunderpimp91 said:
For whatever its worth this guys PFF grade against the run has been a 48, 51, and 52 the last three years. I'm not super familiar with the player and wont pretend to be. PFF does have some misses and interior run players are often players that grade out lower than they should because of their scoring system. Is this guy really that big of a miss though? He seems to be pretty OK recently.
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It's not this one guy, it's the type of player. Jerry refuses to build a DLine that can stop the run. This works against regular season patsies, but always comes back to bite us in the playoffs. Teams that sign this type often find playoff success. Worked for the Bengals signing Reader, KC has NNadi, Eagles have Jordan Davis. Can you even think of a team in the super bowl w/o this type of player on the roster? Rams had Ashawn Robinson for their lone win. Pats always had 2 or 3 of them for their super bowl wins.
 
thunderpimp91 said:
For whatever its worth this guys PFF grade against the run has been a 48, 51, and 52 the last three years. I'm not super familiar with the player and wont pretend to be. PFF does have some misses and interior run players are often players that grade out lower than they should because of their scoring system. Is this guy really that big of a miss though? He seems to be pretty OK recently.
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It's a move we didn't make this the biggest miss in history
 
kskboys said:
It's not this one guy, it's the type of player. Jerry refuses to build a DLine that can stop the run. This works against regular season patsies, but always comes back to bite us in the playoffs. Teams that sign this type often find playoff success. Worked for the Bengals signing Reader, KC has NNadi, Eagles have Jordan Davis. Can you even think of a team in the super bowl w/o this type of player on the roster? Rams had Ashawn Robinson for their lone win. Pats always had 2 or 3 of them for their super bowl wins.
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I dont disagree with you there, but it seems like Godchaux is not anywhere near the level of the players listed. Really they should still be able to find players of similar caliber over the next few weeks and possibly even the draft. The fact that they could only get a future 7th for a guy that costs $5M this year tells me that he might not be the plus run defender he is being made out to be.
 
kskboys said:
I mean, this is seriously what they've been doing for decades. Look at 2012. One of the deepest DLine drafts around that time, and we trade up for a frickin' CB? Every dam time.

You watch, w/ the salary cap room created it will be more skill position guys. CBs, WRs, maybe a TE or two. That's what we always do. And that's why we cannot win a playoff game.
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Ah yeah, one of my favorite maneuvers. They traded for Claiborne and signed Carr for Rob Ryan’s scheme, then fired Ryan after that season and hired Kiffin, whose Tampa 2 didn’t necessarily require top corners.

Part of why I continue to say there’s no real plan or direction, they just collect players and coaches.
 
thunderpimp91 said:
I dont disagree with you there, but it seems like Godchaux is not anywhere near the level of the players listed. Really they should still be able to find players of similar caliber over the next few weeks and possibly even the draft. The fact that they could only get a future 7th for a guy that costs $5M this year tells me that he might not be the plus run defender he is being made out to be.
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I see your point, to a point. What we are going to get…like it or not…is the next Bohanna. Seen that flick already.
 
fivetwos said:
I see your point, to a point. What we are going to get…like it or not…is the next Bohanna. Seen that flick already.
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Very possible and if that's the case then I'll lead the charge in telling Jerry how dumb he is. I would say lets at least get through a couple weeks of free agency first. I'd not super optimistic, but they do at least have the cap space to make a move to get a similar or better player.
 
thunderpimp91 said:
Very possible and if that's the case then I'll lead the charge in telling Jerry how dumb he is. I would say let’s at least get through a couple weeks of free agency first. I'd not super optimistic, but they do at least have the cap space to make a move to get a similar or better player.
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Until they have a few more years of failure, then get someone in here to fix things and convinces them that the front seven is vital, not much is going to change.

These two don’t get it and they never will. Corners, project receivers and second round tight ends is what they think is key.
 
fivetwos said:
Until they have a few more years of failure, then get someone in here to fix things and convinces them that the front seven is vital, not much is going to change.

These two don’t get it and they never will. Corners, project receivers and second round tight ends is what they think is key.
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Agreed. I'm jealous of what the Bears are doing right now. They are going out and getting top players to improve their OL....Jerry/Stephen are trying to sell the fans on the idea that a coaching change is going to make bad players improve into good ones.
 
Would have fit an area of need-
In the last year of his deal which was cheap, 4million-
Only cost the saints a 2026 7th round pick-

So of course Dallas didn't even consider a guy like this.
 
thunderpimp91 said:
Agreed. I'm jealous of what the Bears are doing right now. They are going out and getting top players to improve their OL....Jerry/Stephen are trying to sell the fans on the idea that a coaching change is going to make bad players improve into good ones.
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If you listen to Jerry, he honestly thinks that paying players more money ought to make them better.
 
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