Paxton Lynch VS Jared Goff. Who is the best QB in this draft

[Staubacher]

I'll gladly take either guy.

I see a LOT of wide open receivers in those highlights. That's not life in the NFL, especially on our team.

 

[btcutter]

A qB with a great arm has some real advantages in the NFL,teams are more circumspect crowding the Box and blitzing,he just needs to learn the pro game.

With caveat of everything else being equal (I'm assuming you meant this as well)
A QB MUST be able to process information quickly and make decisions. There are plenty of QBs with big arm who can't process information and failed in NFL.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

I like Goff better than Lynch. Lynch is big and strong but does not throw well on the run and his dinky dunky passes are not impressive.

I like Goff over Lynch as well, Lynch has a powerful arm, but Goff has some ridiculous zip on his throws and imo, is more of a sure thing. However, Lynch has much better mobility than Goff, not even close.

IMO, Goff is the safer of the two, but even he would really benefit from sitting. His footwork has ways to go.

 

[jwithrowcpd]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...e-which-qb-prospect-has-edge-in-goff-vs-lynch

This mirrors my thoughts on the matter. Side note, Lynch reminds me of a more athletic Joe Flacco. Which isn't a bad thing. I still like Goff better because I feel he won't need as much development to the pro game.

 

[btcutter]

It's really not even close to me. Goff wins by a landslide based on his accuracy and ability to throw WRs open. All he needs a time to built his body, adjust to pace of NFL.

IMHO, I am not taking Lynch in the top 5 because he needs so much development. I am not even sure I spent a first round pick on him based on YouTube scouting.

 

[bodi]

Wentz - IMO

1.5 years as a starter, he has thrown for close to 4100 yards, 65% completion percentage, 35 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. He has also rushed for over 800 yards the last two seasons.

He has more talent than Jimmy Garoppolo from the 2014 draft and should get drafted higher. From what I have seen to date, I would have no problem pulling the trigger on this player in the first round.


http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/breaking-down-north-dakota-state-qb-carson-wentz/

 

[AzorAhai]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...e-which-qb-prospect-has-edge-in-goff-vs-lynch

This mirrors my thoughts on the matter. Side note, Lynch reminds me of a more athletic Joe Flacco. Which isn't a bad thing. I still like Goff better because I feel he won't need as much development to the pro game.

Thats a very good writeup and closely resembles my feelings on both. With that said, If both do well between now and the draft, I expect Lynch to go before Goff. Scouts have a big part in how boards are put together. They love elite tools and Lynch has that in spades. Coaches by nature think they can get the talent out of a player. I think these two things often combine to equal teams taking more gifted players ahead of safer, less flashy players.

 

[KB1122]

I see a LOT of wide open receivers in those highlights. That's not life in the NFL, especially on our team.

Exactly.

 

[DoctorChicken]

Lynch is the 3rd best QB in this draft class.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I think a lot of people will like Goff more than Lynch almost solely based on their Bowl performances where Goff was outstanding and Lynch bombed.

You have to look at more than just 1 game for each though. Both are pretty dang good. Either has the potential to be really good in the NFL given proper coaching and situations.

Pretty much this. The bowl game analysis has certainly swayed many.

Lynch's upside is MUCH higher than Goff's.

If I'm drafting a guy at 4 I want to see that upside potential.

 

[AzorAhai]

Pretty much this. The bowl game analysis has certainly swayed many.

Lynch's upside is MUCH higher than Goff's.

If I'm drafting a guy at 4 I want to see that upside potential.

Yeah I've seen a lot more people on the Goff bandwagon since the bowl game.

Right or wrong, scouts and coaches think the same way as you. Not just about QBs either. Scouts love elite tools on players. Coaches think they can make the most out of all that talent. It's for this reason I still think Lynch goes before Goff.

 

[Ashwynn]

The thing I wonder about, considering neither is the prototypical "franchise QB" everyone wants to draft with a top 4 pick. What if we dont draft him (either one) and we do ok and end up in the 15-25 range in picks over the next three to five years and never have a chance to get a "once in a generation QB" (I dont know if any are coming up over the next few years). Are we prepared to go through the Chad/Quincy trash years we went through after Aikman? I dont care to myself, some may not be bothered by it, but that really grated on me. I certainly dont want Johnny Football, RGIII retread wing and a prayer as my next franchise QB.

I have read here how neither Lynch nor Goff is good enough for the #4 spot. But if either or both turn out to be better than average but not HOF level QB isn't that good enough?

The reason I bring this up is I believe it is. I admit I dont follow college well enough to know how good either can be, whats in the pipeline as far as franchise QBs in the next few drafts (and I dont want to suck for three years to find one either. But if you have a chance to get a Matt Ryan, Phillip Rivers type better than average QB, even at 4, I think you take him and build around him, coach him up, surround him with playmakers that make him better and hide his deficiencies by tailoring your game plan to his strengths. I am leaning towards Lynch myself but would not be opposed to Goff from the highlights and articles and posts on both of em. I think either one will be more than adequate to take over from Romo in a year or two. But I think you have to get one of them NOW.

Certainly drafting the next Ryan Leaf would suck big time, but the NFL Draft is a crap shoot Its a gambling game and I think its time to gamble on an uncertain thing with the odds in your favor that at least your going to get a bus driver at worst. Just my thoughts. Like I say. I am thinking Lynch at the moment, but with 5 months and the combine and workouts, that could change, but what does not change is you have to draft a qb this time. Unless another position just jumps off the charts and wows you to no end, you have to take a QB and do all you can to maximize his potential to blossom into the next great Cowboys QB.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Wentz - IMO

1.5 years as a starter, he has thrown for close to 4100 yards, 65% completion percentage, 35 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. He has also rushed for over 800 yards the last two seasons.

He has more talent than Jimmy Garoppolo from the 2014 draft and should get drafted higher. From what I have seen to date, I would have no problem pulling the trigger on this player in the first round.


http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/breaking-down-north-dakota-state-qb-carson-wentz/

Wentz could very easily work himself into the top 10 during the SR Bowl.....Guess who is coaching

 

[cowboys1981]

Goff goes to Cleveland and probably starts. His career could be a wash in two seasons while on the other hand if he sits behind Romo two years he may develop to what we want him to become; Romo's replacement.

 

[JBS]

Didn't watch either bowl game..I watched tape of both players vs the top comp they faced...I like Goff much more...I wouldn't even consider Lynch in the top 10...I'm a huge fan of Goff..Imo, he possess all of the necessities of a successful qb...Lynch does not

 

[LatinMind]

I think so too. He'll probably see his stock rise and have mid first round status.

I dont think he wil maybe if anyting a team will trade to the bottom of RD1 and draft if but i see him top of the 2nd. His deep ball is shakey and inaccurate and his eyes lock on to one WR most of the time. Thats not something theyre going to change right now. He's a RD2 talent and should stay there. Drafting him in RD1 is a big reach IMO.

 

[LatinMind]

Didn't watch either bowl game..I watched tape of both players vs the top comp they faced...I like Goff much more...I wouldn't even consider Lynch in the top 10...I'm a huge fan of Goff..Imo, he possess all of the necessities of a successful qb...Lynch does not

Watch full games, watch games against the better teams in the pac 12. All loses. 0-5 against teams that know him. Like they will know him in the NFL. Not the bottom feeders in the pac12 that every league has to get that bowl money. 9TD passes - 9 INT. Does that look like top 10 material?

 

[rpntex]

Wentz could very easily work himself into the top 10 during the SR Bowl.....Guess who is coaching

I personally like Wentz above Goff and Lynch. He's 6'6", very accurate and has great feet (something that's sorely missing in most spread QBs).

 

[rpntex]

I'll gladly take either guy.

Guys, YouTube highlights are very misleading. You're gonna see some great things, but it's just as advertised - HIGHLIGHTS.

There's a better site where you can see full game reels on just about every player...Every play the player is involved in.

Www.draftbreakdown.com

 

[Cebrin]

Goff appears to be the better of the two from all of the games I've watched. Personally, and it's been said by draft guru's, I think both need work, and neither are a top 4 talent. Maybe in this draft, but only because of a weak QB class. I'd rather have a look at Wentz later. His size, athleticism, and arm are all NFL caliber, just needs to hold a clipboard, learn, and Polish his mechanics. Goff and Wentz are my favs in this draft. Not really big on Lynch.