Penn State's Justin King

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If anyone wants us to take a CB in the near future you have a great game to watch and check out Justin King for Penn St.
 

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If King comes out early, he'd be my choice at CB. He's also a good return man which we really need. He should go anywhere from 15 to 22 so we'd have to use the Cleveland pick on him. Of course we could also draft a WR with the Browns pick (maybe Malcolm Kelly) and get a good CB with our own pick later in the draft. Of course it all depends on the way Cowboys go re either re-singing MBIII or tendering him.
 

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You can also check out Malcom Jenkins (#2, 6-1, 205, 4.38, Ohio St.) on the other side of the ball. He's considered the #1 CB prospect by most analysist. While King (#1, 5-11, 186, 4.35, Penn St.) is considered the 2nd or 3rd best prospect.
 

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Hostile;1731767 said:
Antoine Cason of Arizona is my hope.

Most draft sites have him running in the mid 4.5s. If that's the case, I'll pass. He may drop like the Cal Bear CB did in this years draft. Good, fundamentally sound, CBs that can't crack the 4.4 40 usually end up dropping in the draft. I think that's going to happen to him. Someone is going to get a steal in the 2nd round though.
 

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marchetta;1731771 said:
Most draft sites have him running in the mid 4.5s. If that's the case, I'll pass. He may drop like the Cal Bear CB did in this years draft. Good, fundamentally sound, CBs that can't crack the 4.4 40 usually end up dropping in the draft. I think that's going to happen to him. Someone is going to get a steal in the 2nd round though.


Good point on Cason.

What he runs come pre-draft time will be very interesting.
 

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King is waaay overrated. I'm a Penn State fan. Don't believe the hype. He's getting torched tonight and has all year. James Hardy of Indiana abused him badly last week.
 

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kingwhicker;1731785 said:
King is waaay overrated. I'm a Penn State fan. Don't believe the hype. He's getting torched tonight and has all year. James Hardy of Indiana abused him badly last week.


Yeah, he hasn't impressed me at all.

He gives a huge cushion and seems very slow while turning his hips.
 

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smarta5150;1731749 said:
If anyone wants us to take a CB in the near future you have a great game to watch and check out Justin King for Penn St.

King was burnt toast last week and he has not had a good half against OSU thus far. Maybe he has problem with physical WR's. Last week it was Hardy. Robiske and Harline are both good sized at 6'3", fast enough, and a bit physical.
 

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marchetta;1731771 said:
Most draft sites have him running in the mid 4.5s. If that's the case, I'll pass. He may drop like the Cal Bear CB did in this years draft. Good, fundamentally sound, CBs that can't crack the 4.4 40 usually end up dropping in the draft. I think that's going to happen to him. Someone is going to get a steal in the 2nd round though.
Trust me, he's faster than mid 4.5.
 

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Reggie Smith from Oklahoma gets my vote. Ability to play CB or FS, plus is a dangerous return man.

If he comes out, he would definitely be atop my draft board.
 

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BigWillie;1731801 said:
Reggie Smith from Oklahoma gets my vote. Ability to play CB or FS, plus is a dangerous return man.

If he comes out, he would definitely be atop my draft board.

He will be a 3rd rounder at best.
 

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kingwhicker;1731785 said:
King is waaay overrated. I'm a Penn State fan. Don't believe the hype. He's getting torched tonight and has all year. James Hardy of Indiana abused him badly last week.


I agree 110%. I'm a huge PSU fan and I would not touch King in the first 2 rounds.
 
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I think the corner from Kanas is a playmaker as well, Aqib Talib. Dude is like 6'2 and 205 lbs and runs in the 4.4 range...
 

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sago1;1731764 said:
If King comes out early, he'd be my choice at CB. He's also a good return man which we really need. He should go anywhere from 15 to 22 so we'd have to use the Cleveland pick on him. Of course we could also draft a WR with the Browns pick (maybe Malcolm Kelly) and get a good CB with our own pick later in the draft. Of course it all depends on the way Cowboys go re either re-singing MBIII or tendering him.

These days, I find myself tending to focus in on the bigger CBs available in each draft class... this is because so many of the top WRs coming out of college these days seem to be bigger players, and I think the smaller CBs have a hard time matching up against the bigger wideouts... I make an exception if the smaller CB is VERY fast, like sub-4.4 second 40 fast... for any CB, I want to see 4.5 second 40s as a bare minimum...

Of the bigger CBs out there this year who are likely to go early, I like Malcolm Jenkins of Ohio State, Mike Jenkins of South Florida, and my favorite is Zack Bowman of Nebrasa (who ought to be on the board in the later second round)... of the smaller but fast corners, depending on their running sub-4.4 at the combine or at their Pro Day workouts, I like Justin King of Penn State, Antoine Cason of Arizona, Dominique Rogers-Cromatrie of Tennessee State, and Trae Williams of South Florida... and my favorite of this latter group, Dwight Lowery of San Jose State; the guy's an interception MACHINE, racking up 13 in 15 games in junior college, then 9 more last year... he has fallen off the pace a bit this year, with "only" 3 in 8 games... I suspect this is mostly because teams are not throwing at him, but that's just a guess on my part...

That's 8 corners who ought to go in the first 2 rounds, I hope the Boys add one of them...
 

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silverbear;1731953 said:
These days, I find myself tending to focus in on the bigger CBs available in each draft class... this is because so many of the top WRs coming out of college these days seem to be bigger players, and I think the smaller CBs have a hard time matching up against the bigger wideouts... I make an exception if the smaller CB is VERY fast, like sub-4.4 second 40 fast... for any CB, I want to see 4.5 second 40s as a bare minimum...

Of the bigger CBs out there this year who are likely to go early, I like Malcolm Jenkins of Ohio State, Mike Jenkins of South Florida, and my favorite is Zack Bowman of Nebrasa (who ought to be on the board in the later second round)... of the smaller but fast corners, depending on their running sub-4.4 at the combine or at their Pro Day workouts, I like Justin King of Penn State, Antoine Cason of Arizona, Dominique Rogers-Cromatrie of Tennessee State, and Trae Williams of South Florida... and my favorite of this latter group, Dwight Lowery of San Jose State; the guy's an interception MACHINE, racking up 13 in 15 games in junior college, then 9 more last year... he has fallen off the pace a bit this year, with "only" 3 in 8 games... I suspect this is mostly because teams are not throwing at him, but that's just a guess on my part...

That's 8 corners who ought to go in the first 2 rounds, I hope the Boys add one of them...
What about Talib?
 

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sago1;1731764 said:
He's also a good return man which we really need.

Depends if we would actually use him for that. Most had Newman ahead of Trufant in 2003 because of his return ability. His return ability was part of us taking him with the 5th pic. In 4 1/2 years he's had all of 33 punt returns for us and to me he is clearly the best PR on the team. I know this year he's been hurt but I'm talking about the past 4 years.
 

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kingwhicker;1731785 said:
King is waaay overrated. I'm a Penn State fan. Don't believe the hype. He's getting torched tonight and has all year. James Hardy of Indiana abused him badly last week.

Thats a future #1 WR........................do you disagree?
 
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