People should try to understand both sides

[dreghorn2]

Some people seem to be absolutely amazed that others do not see that without question Jason Garrett is the answer.

They should try to realize that as difficult as it is for them to understand why everyone is not ecstatic about Garrett, it is equally difficult for others to be sold so easily.

Everyone can agree that there have been some positive attitudinal changes since he has taken over, but there have been many interim mid-season coaching hires for a lot of franchises through the years, everyone of them promoting coordinators who attempted to 'change the culture' and bring a fresh attitude.

Most we've long forgotten because they were simple coaching statistics at places like St.Louis, Detroit, Buffalo etc.. and not being fans of those teams we would notice the hire, pay a little attention, they would not be offered the job in the offseason, and that would be it.

Garrett will be a tough sell to a lot of Cowboy fans. Like it or not, he will be associated with the unrealized expectations of the last few seasons.

We go 4-12 or 5-11 and Jerry takes a lot of heat, this was supposed to be a Super Bowl team, and if there is too much 'continuity' fans will be very upset.

If he sticks with Garrett and the Cowhers, Grudens, Fishers go elsewhere, particularly to high profile franchises and not the Carolinas of the world, like i say, fans will be upset, and perhaps they should be. There is a lot of stink surrounding this team right now, upward trend or not. Most Cowboy fans are not Zone members, even if they should be : , and if they sense, probrably incorrectly, that Garrett is 'puppet' material.. well, it will be a tough sell.

We are 3-8, think about that, in a year where we were picked by many, and heavily touted by Jerry, to go all the way. Man, that is going to be hard to forget for many fans.

AdamJT13 is correct. If we do not get a labor agreement quickly in the offseason, then all bets are off, Garrett almost assuredly stays. If not we'll see.

Personally i'm saving judgement, i'm on record as saying that i do not like Garretts offensive philosophies. If he remains the primary play designer/caller i will be worried.

On the other hand i want the type of coach he appears to be, intelligent, a straight shooter, tough minded, an individual who hold people accountable. (traits i prefer not only in my coaches but in my personal life as well).

He has warts though, maybe too many, we'll see.

But man for guys to say that there is absolutely no doubt that he is the one, and you are a fool for not seeing it, confuses me.

I think its too early for either side to draw a line in the sand.

Imho.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Some people seem to be absolutely amazed that others do not see that without question Jason Garrett is the answer.

They should try to realize that as difficult as it is for them to understand why everyone is not ecstatic about Garrett, it is equally difficult for others to be sold so easily.

Everyone can agree that there have been some positive attitudinal changes since he has taken over, but there have been many interim mid-season coaching hires for a lot of franchises through the years, everyone of them promoting coordinators who attempted to 'change the culture' and bring a fresh attitude.

Most we've long forgotten because they were simple coaching statistics at places like St.Louis, Detroit, Buffalo etc.. and not being fans of those teams we would notice the hire, pay a little attention, they would not be offered the job in the offseason, and that would be it.

Garrett will be a tough sell to a lot of Cowboy fans. Like it or not, he will be associated with the unrealized expectations of the last few seasons.

We go 4-12 or 5-11 and Jerry takes a lot of heat, this was supposed to be a Super Bowl team, and if there is too much 'continuity' fans will be very upset.

If he sticks with Garrett and the Cowhers, Grudens, Fishers go elsewhere, particularly to high profile franchises and not the Carolinas of the world, like i say, fans will be upset, and perhaps they should be. There is a lot of stink surrounding this team right now, upward trend or not. Most Cowboy fans are not Zone members, even if they should be : , and if they sense, probrably incorrectly, that Garrett is 'puppet' material.. well, it will be a tough sell.

We are 3-8, think about that, in a year where we were picked by many, and heavily touted by Jerry, to go all the way. Man, that is going to be hard to forget for many fans.

AdamJT13 is correct. If we do not get a labor agreement quickly in the offseason, then all bets are off, Garrett almost assuredly stays. If not we'll see.

Personally i'm saving judgement, i'm on record as saying that i do not like Garretts offensive philosophies. If he remains the primary play designer/caller i will be worried.

On the other hand i want the type of coach he appears to be, intelligent, a straight shooter, tough minded, an individual who hold people accountable. (traits i prefer not only in my coaches but in my personal life as well).

He has warts though, maybe too many, we'll see.

But man for guys to say that there is absolutely no doubt that he is the one, and you are a fool for not seeing it, confuses me.

I think its too early for either side to draw a line in the sand.

Imho.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

IMHO.


Garrett is not only going to be our Head Coach. He is going to get a 5-7 year deal.


Anyone who thinks Garrett is going anywhere else is delusional.

I am 100% confident he is the Dallas Cowboys future.

 

[dreghorn2]

IMHO.


Garrett is not only going to be our Head Coach. He is going to get a 5-7 year deal.


Anyone who thinks Garrett is going anywhere else is delusional.

I am 100% confident he is the Dallas Cowboys future.

See that what i mean.:laugh2:

Based on what? Superior intuition?

I shouldn't tease, you have your opinion, i don't like the fact you discount others but c'est la vie.

If i'm 100% honest with myself. I think what really worries me, and probably a lot of fans, the most about Garrett, is that if he stays, who acquires players?

We need fresh thinking at Valley Ranch. My goodness, the powers that be thought this was a championship team, that is very scary.

I think a lot of people would like a high profile coach in the hope that he will be a counter to Jerry, bring in a more professional staff, and be a major voice in better selecting winning NFL players.

Garrett has been part of a group, rightly or wrongly, associated with overseeing a steady drop in talent, overall, on this roster, the last few years.

This team fell off a cliff and nobody with the Cowboys saw it coming? Yikes. I can understand the fans and some media not seeing it, we aren't knowledeable NFL people with constant access to the team, but our GM and staff couldn't?

Again it might not be his fault, but can you really not see why a lot of people would like to see sweeping changes in Dallas?

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

See that what i mean.:laugh2:

Based on what? Superior intuition?

I shouldn't tease, you have your opinion, i don't like the fact you discount others but c'est la vie.

If i'm 100% honest with myself. I think what really worries me, and probably a lot of fans, the most about Garrett, is that if he stays, who acquires players?

We need fresh thinking at Valley Ranch. My goodness, the powers that be thought this was a championship team, that is very scary.

I think a lot of people would like a high profile coach in the hope that he will be a counter to Jerry, bring in a more professional staff, and be a major voice in better selecting winning NFL players.

Garrett has been part of a group, rightly or wrongly, associated with overseeing a steady drop in talent, overall, on this roster, the last few years.

This team fell off a cliff and nobody with the Cowboys saw it coming? Yikes. I can understand the fans and some media not seeing it, we aren't knowledeable NFL people with constant access to the team, but our GM and staff couldn't?

Again it might not be his fault, but can you really not see why a lot of people would like to see sweeping changes in Dallas?

You would be correct sir. It is one thing for fans not to see it....we are not there every day. But for this ENTIRE organization to think this OL was good enough to win a Super Bowl with, is a MAJOR whiff. Go back to WEEK ONE....one game into the seaosn and we were ALREADY trying to protect this OL. We called about 100 smoke screens to a guy who had missed his entire last year of college...and had missed essentially the entire pre-season. We have coached around this OL all year, esepcially when you consider how little we pushed the ball downfield. We have at times coached around putting our kicker in position to kick FGs. Which means we had little faith in EITHER. Yet we as fans were supposed to believe this was a Super Bowl outfit?

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

See that what i mean.:laugh2:

Based on what? Superior intuition?

The man speaks with purpose.
He has already changed the culture.
He is intelligent.
I believe him to be a great offensive mind.

I shouldn't tease, you have your opinion, i don't like the fact you discount others but c'est la vie.

You may tease

I dont discount others. I just think its delusional to think that he is NOT good for this team. He is what we need.

 

[dreghorn2]

Its true there are holes all over this roster.

You make a great point bbailey423, week one, and we were already on our heels with the offensive line.

The secondary, we thought we could take Alan Ball and Gerald Sensebaugh to a Super Bowl? Sean Lee was going to be a big impact? Butler? Jason Williams?

We need some fresh thinking badly.

 

[Aven8]

Some people seem to be absolutely amazed that others do not see that without question Jason Garrett is the answer.

They should try to realize that as difficult as it is for them to understand why everyone is not ecstatic about Garrett, it is equally difficult for others to be sold so easily.

Everyone can agree that there have been some positive attitudinal changes since he has taken over, but there have been many interim mid-season coaching hires for a lot of franchises through the years, everyone of them promoting coordinators who attempted to 'change the culture' and bring a fresh attitude.

Most we've long forgotten because they were simple coaching statistics at places like St.Louis, Detroit, Buffalo etc.. and not being fans of those teams we would notice the hire, pay a little attention, they would not be offered the job in the offseason, and that would be it.

Garrett will be a tough sell to a lot of Cowboy fans. Like it or not, he will be associated with the unrealized expectations of the last few seasons.

We go 4-12 or 5-11 and Jerry takes a lot of heat, this was supposed to be a Super Bowl team, and if there is too much 'continuity' fans will be very upset.

If he sticks with Garrett and the Cowhers, Grudens, Fishers go elsewhere, particularly to high profile franchises and not the Carolinas of the world, like i say, fans will be upset, and perhaps they should be. There is a lot of stink surrounding this team right now, upward trend or not. Most Cowboy fans are not Zone members, even if they should be : , and if they sense, probrably incorrectly, that Garrett is 'puppet' material.. well, it will be a tough sell.

We are 3-8, think about that, in a year where we were picked by many, and heavily touted by Jerry, to go all the way. Man, that is going to be hard to forget for many fans.

AdamJT13 is correct. If we do not get a labor agreement quickly in the offseason, then all bets are off, Garrett almost assuredly stays. If not we'll see.

Personally i'm saving judgement, i'm on record as saying that i do not like Garretts offensive philosophies. If he remains the primary play designer/caller i will be worried.

On the other hand i want the type of coach he appears to be, intelligent, a straight shooter, tough minded, an individual who hold people accountable. (traits i prefer not only in my coaches but in my personal life as well).

He has warts though, maybe too many, we'll see.

But man for guys to say that there is absolutely no doubt that he is the one, and you are a fool for not seeing it, confuses me.

I think its too early for either side to draw a line in the sand.

Imho.

Fantastic post! I've been touting this for the past couple of weeks. I've said this several times that it's not about Garrett. It's about what's right for the Cowboys. Garrett is a horrible playcaller, but has found a way to at least talk this team into playing real football. My biggest problem is what happens when this team, that have done it before, get tired of his message, or stop believing in him and quit?

Jerry owes it to the fans to interview everybody that is interested. So why Garrett may be, or may not be the next HC we MUST go through the process. If Jerry picks the wrong guy this go around this team, and Romo are cooked! We cannot afford to miss on this next hire, as it will set this franchise back 5 years.

 

[Eddie]

Jerry owes it to the fans to interview everybody that is interested. So why Garrett may be, or may not be the next HC we MUST go through the process. If Jerry picks the wrong guy this go around this team, and Romo are cooked! We cannot afford to miss on this next hire, as it will set this franchise back 5 years.

Agreed ... JJ needs to do an extensive coaching search and find the best coach available.

But sometimes we don't need to look past our noses for what we want. Didn't Dorothy teach us that we don't need to look far and wide for happiness. Sometimes, happiness is sitting on our front porch.

We had Payton ... lost him.

We had Sparano ... lost him.

Both would have been improvements over Wade. But we chose Wade.

We HAVE Garrett ... DON'T lose him !!!

 

[1fisher]

IMHO.


Garrett is not only going to be our Head Coach. He is going to get a 5-7 year deal.


Anyone who thinks Garrett is going anywhere else is delusional.

I am 100% confident he is the Dallas Cowboys future.

I sure hope you are right!!!!!

 

[Boyz981]

See that what i mean.:laugh2:

Based on what? Superior intuition?

I shouldn't tease, you have your opinion, i don't like the fact you discount others but c'est la vie.

If i'm 100% honest with myself. I think what really worries me, and probably a lot of fans, the most about Garrett, is that if he stays, who acquires players?

We need fresh thinking at Valley Ranch. My goodness, the powers that be thought this was a championship team, that is very scary.

I think a lot of people would like a high profile coach in the hope that he will be a counter to Jerry, bring in a more professional staff, and be a major voice in better selecting winning NFL players.

Garrett has been part of a group, rightly or wrongly, associated with overseeing a steady drop in talent, overall, on this roster, the last few years.

This team fell off a cliff and nobody with the Cowboys saw it coming? Yikes. I can understand the fans and some media not seeing it, we aren't knowledeable NFL people with constant access to the team, but our GM and staff couldn't?

Again it might not be his fault, but can you really not see why a lot of people would like to see sweeping changes in Dallas?

How do you know that JG didn't try to make changes. You do realize he was probably following what the head coach wanted? He was doing what he supposed to do as a AC..

 

[utrunner07]

Some people seem to be absolutely amazed that others do not see that without question Jason Garrett is the answer.

They should try to realize that as difficult as it is for them to understand why everyone is not ecstatic about Garrett, it is equally difficult for others to be sold so easily.

Everyone can agree that there have been some positive attitudinal changes since he has taken over, but there have been many interim mid-season coaching hires for a lot of franchises through the years, everyone of them promoting coordinators who attempted to 'change the culture' and bring a fresh attitude.

Most we've long forgotten because they were simple coaching statistics at places like St.Louis, Detroit, Buffalo etc.. and not being fans of those teams we would notice the hire, pay a little attention, they would not be offered the job in the offseason, and that would be it.

Garrett will be a tough sell to a lot of Cowboy fans. Like it or not, he will be associated with the unrealized expectations of the last few seasons.

We go 4-12 or 5-11 and Jerry takes a lot of heat, this was supposed to be a Super Bowl team, and if there is too much 'continuity' fans will be very upset.

If he sticks with Garrett and the Cowhers, Grudens, Fishers go elsewhere, particularly to high profile franchises and not the Carolinas of the world, like i say, fans will be upset, and perhaps they should be. There is a lot of stink surrounding this team right now, upward trend or not. Most Cowboy fans are not Zone members, even if they should be : , and if they sense, probrably incorrectly, that Garrett is 'puppet' material.. well, it will be a tough sell.

We are 3-8, think about that, in a year where we were picked by many, and heavily touted by Jerry, to go all the way. Man, that is going to be hard to forget for many fans.

AdamJT13 is correct. If we do not get a labor agreement quickly in the offseason, then all bets are off, Garrett almost assuredly stays. If not we'll see.

Personally i'm saving judgement, i'm on record as saying that i do not like Garretts offensive philosophies. If he remains the primary play designer/caller i will be worried.

On the other hand i want the type of coach he appears to be, intelligent, a straight shooter, tough minded, an individual who hold people accountable. (traits i prefer not only in my coaches but in my personal life as well).

He has warts though, maybe too many, we'll see.

But man for guys to say that there is absolutely no doubt that he is the one, and you are a fool for not seeing it, confuses me.

I think its too early for either side to draw a line in the sand.

Imho.

Agreed. I think Jason needs to be the HC of the future, but I completely understand why some people are less than thrilled about this prospect.

The same needs to be said for Romo. Just because he is our franchise QB does not mean he is perfect and does not mean he has a few things to work on, pointing out those things does not mean you hate Romo or want him traded, just that you want him to be a better QB.

 

[Bill Wooten]

I just hope Jerry hires the next coach (whoever that is) based on him being the best coach for the job, not based on fan reaction, ticket sales, etc.

I don't want a name. I want a good coach. Tickets will sell and fans will cheer if we win. My biggest worry is "marketing Jerry" will make this hire instead of "football Jerry".

 

[BHendri5]

Here we go again. Look Jerry will hire Garrett. Garrett is the guy, there is no if, ands, or buts about it.

Why go and get a so called big name, the Cowboys are the big name, plus Garrett now has become a big name, since the day Wade was let go.

We have our big name coach, with every game that is being played under his regime win, lose or draw his name is getting bigger, especially with every win.

He made need to tweak his staff, he definitely needs to tweak the roster, and he will be able to do that. Jerry does not meddle, he meets with his staff and they give him the info he needs to mold the team into a winning product on te field. Now I'll agree to a certain degree that Jerry has failed with the coaching hires, Campo, Parcells, Wade. I do not add Gailey to that list because Gailey never had a real shot, Aikman got him fired, before we could really see if he had what it took. During that period of time the players had a direct line to Jerry, they went right past the coach to the owner .

Jerry learned a valuable lesson from that experience. We should be proud that Jerry is not like all the other owners in the NFL, he is a cut above the rest, I like that he is the GM, and he is very involved.

So stop complaining get on the train, because the redheaded genius will guide this franchise back to heights we are so use to

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I sure hope you are right!!!!!

I just see this team locking into Garrett, Already!

They are buying what he is selling.

There is more talent on this roster than some care to see.

Here we go again. Look Jerry will hire Garrett. Garrett is the guy, there is no if, ands, or buts about it.

Why go and get a so called big name, the Cowboys are the big name, plus Garrett now has become a big name, since the day Wade was let go.

We have our big name coach, with every game that is being played under his regime win, lose or draw his name is getting bigger, especially with every win.

He made need to tweak his staff, he definitely needs to tweak the roster, and he will be able to do that. Jerry does not meddle, he meets with his staff and they give him the info he needs to mold the team into a winning product on te field. Now I'll agree to a certain degree that Jerry has failed with the coaching hires, Campo, Parcells, Wade. I do not add Gailey to that list because Gailey never had a real shot, Aikman got him fired, before we could really see if he had what it took. During that period of time the players had a direct line to Jerry, they went right past the coach to the owner .

Jerry learned a valuable lesson from that experience. We should be proud that Jerry is not like all the other owners in the NFL, he is a cut above the rest, I like that he is the GM, and he is very involved.

So stop complaining get on the train, because the redheaded genius will guide this franchise back to heights we are so use to

Excellent post.

You have to be blind not to see the good in the last 3 games. No HC is mistake free, games usually arent mistake free.

And yet, we could have won 3 in a row with all the mistakes yesterday.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Some people seem to be absolutely amazed that others do not see that without question Jason Garrett is the answer.

You spell good.

Oh, also, I had my doubts about JG because he was not a fire-breathing hellion in the mold of a Jimma or Lombardini.

But after 3 games, I see that he is a different kind of coach. A bit Landryesque. I think the players both respect him and fear him for his quiet demeanor. It is the quiet ones you have to watch out for because they sometimes explode like a bottle of Royal Crown Cola with soda powder throwd in.

 

[dadymat]

You would be correct sir. It is one thing for fans not to see it....we are not there every day. But for this ENTIRE organization to think this OL was good enough to win a Super Bowl with, is a MAJOR whiff. Go back to WEEK ONE....one game into the seaosn and we were ALREADY trying to protect this OL. We called about 100 smoke screens to a guy who had missed his entire last year of college...and had missed essentially the entire pre-season. We have coached around this OL all year, esepcially when you consider how little we pushed the ball downfield. We have at times coached around putting our kicker in position to kick FGs. Which means we had little faith in EITHER. Yet we as fans were supposed to believe this was a Super Bowl outfit?

sounds as if there was at least 1 person who didnt believe in this O-line....I think garrett knew from the get go that he was gonna have to call plays to protect Romo...short passes and screens......maybe as HC JJ will respect his input come draft and FA

 

[DallasEast]

There have been lot of interim head coaches since I began watching the NFL. In my opinion, many were not retained beyond their interim stint because of two distinct reasons:

1. For interim head coaches overseeing rosters with average or poorly talent rosters, the owners or general managers automatically undertook either a partial or total rehaul of the team--players and coaches combined.
2. Interim head coaches, who cannot provide highly competitive games while overseeing good or better rosters, are not re-signed because the owner/general manager cannot foresee an viable improvement from the coaching level.

It is still early for critics of Jason Garrett to see him getting the permanent job. That's understandable, but doubters should pay attention to one thing for the rest of this season regardless of future wins or losses:

If Garrett can maximize the talent on this roster so much so that games are winnable in the fourth quarter, the odds of him not being the primary candidate for a long-term contract are very low. After three games, a Garrett-led team has accomplished exactly what must be done for him to stick around after 2010.

Five more games to go...

 

[CATCH17]

The man speaks with purpose.
He has already changed the culture.
He is intelligent.
I believe him to be a great offensive mind.



You may tease

I dont discount others. I just think its delusional to think that he is NOT good for this team. He is what we need.

Based on what? Pitching a 4th and 1 toss to Barber? lol


Im liking Garrett but his playcalling is not great at all. He rarely throws any wrinkles in and can't figure out that Barber produces none.



Im liking him as a head coach but good gosh some of these play calls will make you pull your hair out.


Why on earth we were attempting a 59 yard field goal when we still had 2 timeouts is just mind boggling.



He has got to get better as a playcaller and add more wrinkles and be deceptive.

The fake screen to Dez that ended up being a swing pass to Felix is the kind of wrinkles im talking about and those are few and far between.



Everyone in the building knows we are going to run the ball when we line up in a goal line formation in the middle of the field. Absolutely no deception off of that. Just a gain of 1 time after time after time.

I dont discount others. I just think its delusional to think that he is NOT good for this team. He is what we need.

No we're 3 games in and you've already thrown anointing oil everywher. Thats delusional. We still got 5 ball games left to judge him on.

 

[jay cee]

You would be correct sir. It is one thing for fans not to see it....we are not there every day. But for this ENTIRE organization to think this OL was good enough to win a Super Bowl with, is a MAJOR whiff. Go back to WEEK ONE....one game into the seaosn and we were ALREADY trying to protect this OL. We called about 100 smoke screens to a guy who had missed his entire last year of college...and had missed essentially the entire pre-season. We have coached around this OL all year, esepcially when you consider how little we pushed the ball downfield. We have at times coached around putting our kicker in position to kick FGs. Which means we had little faith in EITHER. Yet we as fans were supposed to believe this was a Super Bowl outfit?

Some of us posted our reservations about the o-line before the season started. I was amazed at the time that others discounted those reservations.