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Yeah, the more sexy positions get all the attention . Just smile and be very thankful we have a one Zack Martin. I no i do....Hey it could be worse. Jerry could have drank enough Johnnie Walker to hit Stephen over the head and turn the "Johnny Football" card in.....
 

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Not sure if serious ? this has to be a joke. Bridgewater was terrible , if any QB was ROY it was Derek Carr. This is why the NFL awards don't merit anything anymore. Complete Joke.

The joke's on you. Bridgewater was anything but terrible. Granted, there are others that are deserving, perhaps more deserving than Bridgewater was but I'm not about to begrudge that. He did well and deserves credit for it.
 

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Ten years from now, when Zack is named to his 8th, 9th, or 10th all pro team, and ODB is in his 2nd or 3rd season of hosting "Ridiculousness" on MTV, I will smile!:):):)
 

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Ten years from now, when Zack is named to his 8th, 9th, or 10th all pro team, and ODB is in his 2nd or 3rd season of hosting "Ridiculousness" on MTV, I will smile!:):):)

See Also: Brandon Marshall

I don't care about rookie awards. Martin and company had a fantastic season, so hopefully they can prolong the career of our quarterback.
 

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Derek Carr
348 completions
599 attempts
58.1%
3270 yds
5.5 yards per attempt
9.4 yards per completion
204.4 yards per game
21 TDs
3.5% td percentage
12 INTs
2.0% interception percentage
76.6 passer rating
38.37 QBR

Teddy Bridgewater
259 completions
402 attempts
64.4%
2919 yds
7.3 yards per attempt
11.3 yards per completion
224.5 yards per game
14 TDs
3.5% td percentage
12 INTs
3.0% interception percentage
85.2 passer rating
50.16 QBR
 

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That's nonsense. The difference is you can see Beckham's dominance with the position he plays. There's stats for it, so you can comprehend it. Zack Martin was just as dominant at his position and for an entire 16 game season.

I disagree with that statement. ODB looked like an elite WR out there. He burned some of the best corners in the league. He has amazing hands and also runs awesome routes. This kid literally shocked the whole league. Martin had a fantastic year as well but ODB was flat out amazing out there. He deserved ROY.
 

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I disagree with that statement. ODB looked like an elite WR out there. He burned some of the best corners in the league. He has amazing hands and also runs awesome routes. This kid literally shocked the whole league. Martin had a fantastic year as well but ODB was flat out amazing out there. He deserved ROY.

Right, because Beckham's play was on a stage. You can see it. You have stats to verify it.

Martin was equally dominant at his position and for 16 games, not 12.
 

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Martin had a fantastic year as well but ODB was flat out amazing out there. He deserved ROY.
He deserved it, but based only on the nature of the award. Not based on having a better year than Martin. No rookie had a better year than Martin.

If there was ever any doubt that OROY is strictly an award for skill position players, this year's results erased that doubt. They've given out the award 48 times, and a skill position player has won it 48 times.
 

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He deserved it, but based only on the nature of the award. Not based on having a better year than Martin. No rookie had a better year than Martin.

If there was ever any doubt that OROY is strictly an award for skill position players, this year's results erased that doubt. They've given out the award 48 times, and a skill position player has won it 48 times.

Yep. It gives fans like ufcrules the perception Beckham had a better year. Every time he made a play, you knew about it. You saw it. The announcers raved about it. It often times was for points on the scoreboard.

9 times out of 10 when Zack Martin makes a play and dominates his position you don't see it. Nobody talks about it. You're busy following the football.

I had no doubt Beckham would win the award but he absolutely did not have a better rookie year than Zack Martin. I don't think I've believed the Cowboys had the best rookie since maybe Emmitt. I do believe they had that guy this year. He just played a position that doesn't interest most people.
 

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Yep. It gives fans like ufcrules the perception Beckham had a better year. Every time he made a play, you knew about it. You saw it. The announcers raved about it. It often times was for points on the scoreboard.

9 times out of 10 when Zack Martin makes a play and dominates his position you don't see it. Nobody talks about it. You're busy following the football.

I had no doubt Beckham would win the award but he absolutely did not have a better rookie year than Zack Martin. I don't think I've believed the Cowboys had the best rookie since maybe Emmitt. I do believe they had that guy this year. He just played a position that doesn't interest most people.
Martin is the first rookie offensive lineman to make 1st-team All-Pro since 1947, and only the second ever. There have been two OL and 31 skill position players to make 1st team All-Pro since 1947. The 31 skill-position players includes 5 wide receivers. And of course Beckham is not one of them.

The best non-skill position offensive rookie in 67 years, is not considered the best offensive rookie this year.
 

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Yeah, the more sexy positions get all the attention . Just smile and be very thankful we have a one Zack Martin. I no i do....Hey it could be worse. Jerry could have drank enough Johnnie Walker to hit Stephen over the head and turn the "Johnny Football" card in.....
That's a sobering thought.
 
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