Per Schefter twitter: McNabb a Commander

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SkinsHokieFan;3333407 said:
Na, I don't the Commanders overpaid for something they didn't neccessarily need.

I have been on the "get a damn QB" bandwagon this whole offseason. More so I was hoping it would be Sam Bradford.

McNabb is a major upgrade over Campbell and won't cost nearly as much as Peppers.

The Commanders are much better now then they were at 6 pm this evening. That would have been debateable had they set the market and signed Peppers to the contract the Bears gave him

Maybe the Skins do draft a qb this year. It'd be a great scenario. Draft a good young qb to learn for a couple years under McNabb. At least that's what I would do.
 

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This trade is great for Cowboy fans. Why? With McPuke being a Buzzard and a Foreskin, we can hate him even more (if it's possible). Sucks for him though.
 

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and Skids offered Hanyesworh an Landry an the Eagles said no

lol oh Danny Boy
 

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If the Skins don't resign him before the end of the season they are crazy. They are just leaving themselves open to another Jason Taylor scenario.
 

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Just heard about this trade on the way to work.

Funny thing was, Kevin Sheehan was on Mike & Mike this morning and tried to draw comparisons to Shannahan with Elway, in that Shannahan got Elway a running game and the Championships followed.

Then he noted how they signed LJ, WP, and have Clinton Portis.



Two things though . . . at this stage in their careers, you could combine the best attributes of each of those running backs and they're no Terrell Davis. And of course . . . McNabb is nowhere close to being the QB John Elway was.
 

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BAZ;3333529 said:
If the Skins don't resign him before the end of the season they are crazy. They are just leaving themselves open to another Jason Taylor scenario.

This is a good point, and I don't think it's crazy to think that McNabb would not re-sign with hopes of ending up in Minnesota next year.


One thing that speaks volumes to me, is the fact that Philadelphia would trade McNabb within the division.

I don't think they would do that if they were afraid of him.
 

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BAZ;3333529 said:
If the Skins don't resign him before the end of the season they are crazy. They are just leaving themselves open to another Jason Taylor scenario.

HoleInTheRoof;3333532 said:
This is a good point, and I don't think it's crazy to think that McNabb would not re-sign with hopes of ending up in Minnesota next year.

This might explain some of that:

Donovan McNabb stood his ground against the Philadelphia Eagles for the second straight year. Now, the question is whether he’ll get his revenge.

After being told last month that the Eagles would not deal him to NFC East-rival Washington, McNabb essentially forced Philadelphia’s hand by refusing to talk with any of the other teams that had expressed interest in recent weeks....

McNabb, who is in the final year of his deal, made this happen by making it clear he wasn’t going anywhere else but Washington. When the Buffalo Bills expressed interest – and even were willing to give McNabb a contract extension – he passed on the offer. When the Oakland Raiders sniffed around and showed willingness to trade for the quarterback without an extension, McNabb indicated to the Eagles through his associates that he’d retire.

“He has plenty of money,” the source close to McNabb said. “He’s not doing anything he doesn’t want to do.”

What the Eagles wanted more than anything was to clear the way for Kolb to start and, in the process, sign him to a contract extension at a more favorable price. Kolb also quietly has been forcing the issue by making it clear that if he’s not the starter by this season, he wouldn’t sign an extension. Kolb’s contract is set to expire at the end of this season, meaning the Eagles would have had to put a high tender on him after this season to keep him.

Banner and Roseman could be paving the road for their dismissal if this doesn’t work. This could be a tipping point in determining who really runs the Eagles. Coach Andy Reid called the shots on the roster, until most recently, when that power increasingly shifted to Banner, a clever contract negotiator who has become expert in locking up players to long-term deals and keeping the Eagles competitive.

The problem is that Banner’s semi-Moneyball techniques haven’t produced a championship. Neither has McNabb, but he has gotten the Eagles to five NFC championship games and one Super Bowl. Was that success more McNabb or Banner?

Reid believed it was McNabb and had voiced his desire for the Eagles to keep him, even if it cost them Kolb. “Andy thinks Kolb is going to be really good, maybe great. But he knows Donovan is great and probably will be for three or four years,” said a source close to Reid.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-mcnabbtrade040410

So...will the Skins have a hard time signing McNabb to an extension? Not from the sounds of this article. He refused to even consider playing anywhere else except for Washington. Doesn't sound like he'd be bailing after one season if the Skins show him some nice money.

Does the fact that the Eagles traded him to a division rival mean they feel he's washed up? Not from the sounds of this article. Reid wanted McNabb over Kolb, but Banner wanted Kolb signed now to save $$$...and that was only gonna happen if McNabb were no longer starter. And there was only one team they felt they could trade him to: the Commanders. Shame Allen and Shanahan didn't know this ahead of time lol.
 

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Califan007;3333540 said:
So...will the Skins have a hard time signing McNabb to an extension? Not from the sounds of this article. He refused to even consider playing anywhere else except for Washington. Doesn't sound like he'd be bailing after one season if the Skins show him some nice money.

You're putting a lot of weight into one article. I'm sure if Minnesota said "hey, were not waiting on Farve, come on down" McNabb would've been there in a heart beat.

Probably several other teams he'da jumped on as well.

I'm not saying McNabb won't sign an extension. Danny is a good salesman, and he has deep pockets. But until he does, I'd be wary. Personally, I hope they do sign him to an extension. This isn't 2004 anymore. McNabb doesn't scare me.



Califan007;3333540 said:
Does the fact that the Eagles traded him to a division rival mean they feel he's washed up? Not from the sounds of this article. Reid wanted McNabb over Kolb, but Banner wanted Kolb signed now to save $$$...and that was only gonna happen if McNabb were no longer starter. And there was only one team they felt they could trade him to: the Commanders. Shame Allen and Shanahan didn't know this ahead of time lol.

Again, you're putting a lot of weight into one article. And it really sounds like Cole is speculating more than anything about how he feels about McNabb. Sorry, I'm not putting a lot of weight (no pun intended Reid) into unnamed "sources."

At any rate, actions speak louder than words. If the Eagles honestly thought McNabb had much left, they wouldn't have sent him to a divisional rival they have to play twice a year. Just like the Packers were adament Favruh leave the division.

It's all speculation at this point. It'll make the division that much more interesting, that's for sure.

I'm glad to see McNabb end up at a bottom-feeder. I can't remember a player I disliked more the past 10 years or so.
 

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HoleInTheRoof;3333559 said:
You're putting a lot of weight into one article. I'm sure if Minnesota said "hey, were not waiting on Farve, come on down" McNabb would've been there in a heart beat.

Probably several other teams he'da jumped on as well.
I'm not sure why McNabb would insist he go to Washington, though. He could have simply insisted that he not go to Oakland or Buffalo. If the Eagles did the unthinkable and just ended up cutting him, he could have had his pick of different teams to choose from.

And I'm pretty sure the Eagles were indeed contacted by more teams than just Buffalo, Oakland and the Skins. You don't put word out that a QB like McNabb is available and only get a few inquiries.


I'm not saying McNabb won't sign an extension. Danny is a good salesman, and he has deep pockets. But until he does, I'd be wary. Personally, I hope they do sign him to an extension. This isn't 2004 anymore. McNabb doesn't scare me.
No doubt, but I don't think it's as much of a concern as some on this thread are claiming it will (or could) be. If the Skins want him, they'll have him. Now, if Zorn and Vinny were still around, it would be another story lol...


Again, you're putting a lot of weight into one article. And it really sounds like Cole is speculating more than anything about how he feels about McNabb. Sorry, I'm not putting a lot of weight (no pun intended Reid) into unnamed "sources."
So Cole is not only making up sources, he's also making up direct quotes from these same sources...all because he just really, really likes McNabb? lol...I dunno, I find that idea harder to believe than the idea that Reid still thinks McNabb is still a great QB.


At any rate, actions speak louder than words. If the Eagles honestly thought McNabb had much left, they wouldn't have sent him to a divisional rival they have to play twice a year. Just like the Packers were adament Favruh leave the division.
Again, I think that it was a combo of 1) McNabb screwing up the Eagles' FO's plans by not cooperating with trade scenarios, 2) The FO wanting to save money by signing Kolb now, and 3) Shanahan jumping (maybe a little too eagerly) at the chance of having an extremely established QB running his offense and not having to hitch his tenure in D.C. to either Campbell or an unproven QB.

Not to mention that the Eagles told McNabb that they were not going to trade him to a division rival. Why tell him that if they thought the guy was washed up and provided no real threat? At the VERY least he can help the Skins defense better prepare for Reid's offense. And this isn't the first time the Eagles have made a trade that helped out a division rival lol ;)...



It's all speculation at this point. It'll make the division that much more interesting, that's for sure.

I'm glad to see McNabb end up at a bottom-feeder. I can't remember a player I disliked more the past 10 years or so.
1. That's for DAMN sure.

2. That "bottom feeder" has been giving the Cowboys all sorts of trouble over the past 5 years, to the tune of a 5-5 record over that timespan.
 

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Califan007;3333583 said:
I'm not sure why McNabb would insist he go to Washington, though.

Maybe he wanted to collect a huge paycheck. :)


Califan007;3333583 said:
And I'm pretty sure the Eagles were indeed contacted by more teams than just Buffalo, Oakland and the Skins. You don't put word out that a QB like McNabb is available and only get a few inquiries.

You may be overrating the market for McNabb. Arizona opted for Derek Anderson. The 9'ers have plenty of ammo, and they weren't interested. The Seahawks weren't interested either. Minnesota, who has a Super Bowl ready team and McNabb ties, is waiting on Favruh again. Cleveland didn't inquire. In fact, if you look around the NFL, there really aren't that many QB hungry teams.

I don't think the market for McNabb was all that strong.


Califan007;3333583 said:
So Cole is not only making up sources, he's also making up direct quotes from these same sources...all because he just really, really likes McNabb?

Sorry . . . I'm just not a big believer of "unnamed sources." Too easy to make up (if fictional), or it really could be anyone. I mean, that "source" could be a ball boy for the Eagles.


Califan007;3333583 said:
lol...I dunno, I find that idea harder to believe than the idea that Reid still thinks McNabb is still a great QB.

I find it hard to believe that the team would force Reid to unload his QB if Reid really loved McNabb so much.

Califan007;3333583 said:
Not to mention that the Eagles told McNabb that they were not going to trade him to a division rival. Why tell him that if they thought the guy was washed up and provided no real threat?

Because front office people and coaches fib and outright lie all the time. It's a business.

The fact remains they DID trade him to a divisional rival. That speaks volumes.


Califan007;3333583 said:
2. That "bottom feeder" has been giving the Cowboys all sorts of trouble over the past 5 years, to the tune of a 5-5 record over that timespan.

Divisional rivalries are rarely one-sided. Nevertheless, we've gone 4-2 over Washington the previous 3 seasons, and won two divisional titles during that time. Your team has finished in last place every year, correct? Hence, bottom-feeder.
 

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Califan007;3333540 said:
So...will the Skins have a hard time signing McNabb to an extension? Not from the sounds of this article.


You are insane, if McNabb spends a few months in Washington and hates it this article means nothing. If, if he thought that moving to Minney improved his chances of winning a SB why would he stay in Washington?

Look, I'm not saying he will turn mercenary and abandon your team for greener pastures first chance he gets, but what I am saying is they should get a deal done to take away that option sooner then later, or else those are two picks that were thrown away. Not a good start to the Shanney era in Commander country.
 

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McNabb to Washington is one thing. McNabb's inability to stay healthy for an entire season is one thing.

McNabb + Washington's complete lack of an offensive line = Campbell starting in week 6.

Seriously, I think McNabb will only play 9 games in 2010. He's going to get KILLED behind that joke of an offensive line in DC.
 

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BAZ;3333616 said:
You are insane, if McNabb spends a few months in Washington and hates it this article means nothing. If, if he thought that moving to Minney improved his chances of winning a SB why would he stay in Washington?

Look, I'm not saying he will turn mercenary and abandon your team for greener pastures first chance he gets, but what I am saying is they should get a deal done to take away that option sooner then later, or else those are two picks that were thrown away. Not a good start to the Shanney era in Commander country.

A deal will be done before training camp. No talks have taken place because nobody ever thought this trade would happen until it was done :)

Plenty of time to worry about re-signing him
 
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