Peter King's take on Parcells' hiring of a GM

[dthahn]

Peter King on Football Night in America just reported that if Parcells tries to hire another team's executive as the Dolphin's GM then that team would be able to challenge the hiring with the NFL league office.

If that's the case then it looks like the Cowboys' Jeff Ireland would be safe from being taken by Parcells.

 

[sago1]

If Jerry's as smart as he now claims he is re the Cowboys future, no way does he let Ireland leave. Give Ireland a big raise & make him the Deputy GM or whatever title with a little more responsibility.

I do believe that down the road when Stephen Jones takes over, he will hire a GM (who would also be head of scouting) but will retain control of the team thru contracts & cap matters, etc. He'll also be more hands on then most other owners but not to the extent Jerry Jones is.

 

[khiladi]

If Jerry's as smart as he now claims he is re the Cowboys future, no way does he let Ireland leave. Give Ireland a big raise & make him the Deputy GM or whatever title with a little more responsibility.

I do believe that down the road when Stephen Jones takes over, he will hire a GM (who would also be head of scouting) but will retain control of the team thru contracts & cap matters, etc. He'll also be more hands on then most other owners but not to the extent Jerry Jones is.

I don't know how many times this needs repeating. Ireland was hired by JJ before Parcells even came on board, and he was being groomed as Lacewell's replacement for awhile. And Lacewell is very close and influential in the organization, meaning that Jeff Ireland is going to be a heavy player in Dallas for awhile.

Another added benefit is that Wade gives the scouting department way more authority in the decision making process than Parcells does. Wad eis conducive to Ireland as well.

 

[AsthmaField]

Then that means we probably won't lose Ireland... unless we agree to get compensation for the guy.

It would have to be a lot of compensation in order for me to be ok with him leaving. Ireland is very good, IMO.

I do think that Jerry learned a lot though, in Bill's time with the Cowboys. I think Jones has changed the way he looks at talent and goes about the draft.

Still, I'd rather have Ireland around, just in case. :

 

[Nors]

Ireland is where he is because of Parcells. Interesting power play.

Parcells actually can offer far more than JJ/Lacewell - a sucession plan.....

Ireland is not being GM in Dallas in Jerry Jones lifetime.....

 

[mmillman]

You don't think Ireland would like to be a GM instead of head of scouting? There will be no GM in the traditional sense with Jones as owner and that is probably not appealing to someone with those aspirations.

 

[tomson75]

Since when does Ireland have the qualifications to ascend to a GM role? The guy is a talent evaluator, not a businessman.

What am I missing? What makes people think he could be a GM?

 

[IndianaCowboyFan]

Since when does Ireland have the qualifications to ascend to a GM role? The guy is a talent evaluator, not a businessman.

What am I missing? What makes people think he could be a GM?

Don't you know the sky is falling and everyone is leaving Dallas?

 

[tomson75]

Don't you know the sky is falling and everyone is leaving Dallas?

I keep forgetting that we're suffering through perhaps the best regular season in our franchise's history despite Jessica Simpson's witchcraft, Roy Willy's inability to outplay UFA's from (enter Community College), and TO's constant inability to remain completely mute during interviews. etc. etc.

Certainly all of these things will tear the team apart...no one will want to stay next season...after all, we've climaxed...we are already on the downslide.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

King says that they would be able to *challenge* the hire. Doesn't mean that the league will not allow it.

But again, I don't know where people get this idea that Ireland would *want* to go to Miami to be the GM. It could happen, but he didn't have the greatest relationship with Parcells when he was here and he would go from being the top personnel guy for a 13-2 team, where he's a native of, to being Parcells' gofer for a 1 win team that plays in the same division as Belichick.

I'm more worried about him getting a GM job in a place like KC than going to Miami at this point in time.




YAKUZA

 

[Yakuza Rich]

You don't think Ireland would like to be a GM instead of head of scouting? There will be no GM in the traditional sense with Jones as owner and that is probably not appealing to someone with those aspirations.

The GM role in typical organizations is the final decision maker who usually is pretty contract savvy and decides coaches and players.

If Ireland goes to Miami, he'll have the GM role basically in name only. It's really nothing different from here, but depending on whom you talk to...Jones was/is more willing to take Ireland's word on talent than Parcells would.

I could see Ireland wanting to be a GM in a traditional GM role for a typical organization, but I'd be a little surprised if he went to Miami were his role..if anything...could be diminished. Parcells didn't sign up to become the VP of Football Operations only to NOT buy the groceries.



YAKUZA

 

[TheHerd]

Aren't we pretenders? Aren't the Pats and their superior talent going to steamroll everyone, including us, in the playoffs?

Why wouldn't Tuna be trying to get Pioli rather than the builder of the second rate team?

 

[theogt]

Ireland is where he is because of Parcells. Interesting power play.

Parcells actually can offer far more than JJ/Lacewell - a sucession plan.....

Ireland is not being GM in Dallas in Jerry Jones lifetime.....

Ireland was here before Parcells. There's a good chance he would have risen to the level he did regardless of Parcells.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Ireland was here before Parcells. There's a good chance he would have risen to the level he did regardless of Parcells.

Ireland was the one and only thing Lacewell did here that had any meaning

 

[Nors]

Parcells mentored Ireland and can offer him a better job in Miami.

I can see him staying here to support GM Jones and his family. Telling on his career aspirations clearly....

 

[theogt]

Parcells mentored Ireland and can offer him a better job in Miami.

I can see him staying here to support GM Jones and his family. Telling on his career aspirations clearly....

Why is it a better job?

 

[Nors]

Why is it a better job?

In dallas JJ is GM and his kids inherit all.

He goes to Miami, gets promotion to GM and in a few years replaces Parcells who is very aged. And he gets credit for rebuilding a bad Miami team....

 

[theogt]

In dallas JJ is GM and his kids inherit all.

He goes to Miami, gets promotion to GM and in a few years replaces Parcells who is very aged. And he gets credit for rebuilding a bad Miami team....

How would the GM position in Miami be different than his position in Dallas?

 

[Nors]

How would the GM position in Miami be different than his position in Dallas?

He is not the GM in Dallas. Never will be with JJ living

Parcells can masage a title to steal Ireland.

 

[theogt]

He is not the GM in Dallas. Never will be with JJ living

Parcells can masage a title to steal Ireland.

Ok. So the question is, what is different about a GM position in Miami compared to his position in Dallas? Other than name change?

Wouldn't he have less influence over personnel decisions in Miami?