Petitti update???

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Portland Fanatic said:
I believe some think that Fabini will automatically get the start...no way man! Fabini has to beat a determined young player out to start...not the other way around.

I think most forget that Rob got dinged last year because of his combine weight...if he was in the shape he's in now at the combine he'd be considered a first day pick.

One year of experience, much better shape, determined...I like his chances. All being even between the two, you go with the youth and future at the position.

Most of us here are rooting for Rob to win out...good luck to him!
I'm hoping he lives up to his number this year
 

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Portland Fanatic said:
I believe some think that Fabini will automatically get the start...no way man! Fabini has to beat a determined young player out to start...not the other way around.

Actually, I think if BP had his druthers, Rob would beat out Fabini and we'd have a very good backup for both positions in Fabs.
 

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Remember Parcells saying Pettiti really developed physically in off season but said nothing about whether he competiting for backup or starter job. While many on this board think Pettiti could compete against Fabini for starting job, I'm inclined to think Fabini wins the job this year but Pettiti hopefully beats him out in 07 and becomes our long-term starter at RT. But of course this depends on Fabini being completely healthy and he did pass the Cowboys physical before we signed him (although he failed physical with Tampa I believe).

Parcells also had good things to say about Colombo's physical development; he compared Colombo's work ethic/time working out at VR with Newman whose supposedly #1 working out at VR. Went on to say Colombo would be competing for backup job. Don't know if he meant Colombo unable realistically compete for starter job or if the starter jobs already set (like Adams at LT & in Parcells mind maybe Fabini at RT as well)). And of course the media asked no followup questions--which is norm for them unless TO or some other controversial subject being discussed.

Hope we learn something in minicamp. If we hear Colombo (but not Pettiti or Fabini) playing at LT at any point, it could mean Parcells trying him out there to see if he could backup Adams. If Fabini were to win (as many assume) RT starting job, maybe Parcells would rather have someone else fill in for Adams (maybe for just a few plays or 1 game or so rather then disrupt OL continuity by moving Fabini over to LT and start Pettiti at RT. On the other hand we rarely have a clue what Parcells thinking.
 

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Well, I disagree with some of you fellas, don't misunderstand me, I am hoping that Petti is our next great ROT. He kinda reminds me of Erik Williams. Williams didnt do anything his first year, and came into his own his 2nd year.

At one pre draft report they had Rob Petti at 6-6 329 at 5.16 in 40, same qualities as Erik Williams. Yet, I am thinking that Fabini will take place of ROT till Petti is ready.

Case in point, I am sure you guys remember Ryan Young, OT that used to play for the Jets with Parcells. that came to the Cowboys in 2003 and played well till end of November and December. Fabini can teach Petti some things, while Rob Petti gets into shape, learns.

So, I am not counting him out, but Fabini could start, while Rob learns. My question for Pittdawg is, how is Rob's foot doing? That to me, is one key area Rob has to work on, his foot injury, quickness.

See that way, Fabini could start, Rob takes over by mid season, and then Fabini could push Flozell to play better too. Also, Fabini could teach our young OT's too.
 

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He kinda reminds me of Erik Williams. Williams didnt do anything his first year, and came into his own his 2nd year.

How on earth could you draw that comparison? Beyond the #79, there isn't any.
 

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Rob hasn't met T.O.? The guy has already torn the locker room apart.
 

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Followup to my earlier posting. Believe our signing Fabini as our RT rather then a younger FA RT (besides Jones being unable pay starting RT big bucks to young player) says a lot about Cowboy hopes. Unless the plan was to draft a young OT in 2nd/3rd round (which didn't happen) to contest/groom behind Fabini, it easy might be Parcells hopes Pettiti can win the starting job if not in 06 then in 07.

I'm one of those whose heart would love for Pettiti to beat out a healthy Fabini at RT but I'm also realistically enough to think a 6th rounder doesn't make the jump to become a pretty good starting RT in his second year. Hope Pettiti can do it cause I admire the kid's heart, work ethic, etc., but I'm only being realistic in thinking Fabini's experience wins him the job this year, but look out in 07 cause I don't think Fabini stands a chance then.

Also did anyone notice Pittdawgs' comment that Peterman was in same group with Pettiti in working out. Hopefully Peterman exhibited same hard work ethic shown by both Pettiti and Colombo -- along with Spears, Ware & Newman.

BTW: Colombo will be the wild card in all of this. If both he and Pettiti show (at very minimum) that both will be pretty good backups this year/with starting potential --both have hearts & are extremely hard working -- we may have our future starting OTs on the team for years to come.

Now, while we still got to worry somewhat about Colombo, maybe the gods will smile this year and Peterman actually looks good too. Then all we got to worry about is Kosier and Johnson/Gurode. Geez I'm tired worrying about our OL & afraid even to think injuries.
 

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Followup to my earlier posting. Believe our signing Fabini as our RT rather then a younger FA RT (besides Jones being unable pay starting RT big bucks to young player) says a lot about Cowboy hopes. Unless the plan was to draft a young OT in 2nd/3rd round (which didn't happen) to contest/groom behind Fabini, it easy might be Parcells hopes Pettiti can win the starting job if not in 06 then in 07.

Those are my thoughts too. I think the Cowboys really wanted Colledge OT, but he was chosen 2 spots above us, best I remember. So, they settled for TE. I think too, either Rob Petti will take over by mid season, or 2007 for sure.

Fabini is a stop gap measure till Petti is ready. Then, you add in Columbo, that really makes us look good. Before you jump all over me, for following remarks guys. If Columbo shows his stuff this year, you just might see Flozell Adams traded next year. Columbo is 2 years younger than Flozell.

Reportedly next year is another strong year for OT's in the NFL Draft. So, my thinking is they will grab one next year for sure, along with a young WR. The defense is pretty well fixed, except for a good NT, if Stanly or Johnson cant fill the bill.

Then, I am still hopeful that Stephen Peterman is one of our young offensive guards. Reports are that Al Johnson has increased his strength and size by 15 pounds or so to handle bigger DT's and NT's. Gurode is ok, if his head is finally on straight.

I too am tired of worrying about out offensive line, if they can hold up. But I am hopeful that our defense will finally reach its peak, and be a NASTY, NASTY BAD DEFENSE.

I'm one of those whose heart would love for Pettiti to beat out a healthy Fabini at RT but I'm also realistically enough to think a 6th rounder doesn't make the jump to become a pretty good starting RT in his second year. Hope Pettiti can do it cause I admire the kid's heart, work ethic, etc., but I'm only being realistic in thinking Fabini's experience wins him the job this year, but look out in 07 cause I don't think Fabini stands a chance then.

Also did anyone notice Pittdawgs' comment that Peterman was in same group with Pettiti in working out. Hopefully Peterman exhibited same hard work ethic shown by both Pettiti and Colombo -- along with Spears, Ware & Newman.

BTW: Colombo will be the wild card in all of this. If both he and Pettiti show (at very minimum) that both will be pretty good backups this year/with starting potential --both have hearts & are extremely hard working -- we may have our future starting OTs on the team for years to come.

Now, while we still got to worry somewhat about Colombo, maybe the gods will smile this year and Peterman actually looks good too. Then all we got to worry about is Kosier and Johnson/Gurode. Geez I'm tired worrying about our OL & afraid even to think injuries.
 

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sago1 said:
I'm one of those whose heart would love for Pettiti to beat out a healthy Fabini at RT but I'm also realistically enough to think a 6th rounder doesn't make the jump to become a pretty good starting RT in his second year. Hope Pettiti can do it cause I admire the kid's heart, work ethic, etc., but I'm only being realistic in thinking Fabini's experience wins him the job this year, but look out in 07 cause I don't think Fabini stands a chance then.
That's funny...because that's EXACTLY what Erik Williams did in his 2nd year...and I believe he was drafted somewhere between the 6-8th rounds.

I'll go on record right now and say that, barring a catastrophic injury, Rob Petitti will become a VERY good STARTING OT for the Cowboys.
 

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I agree with you, I think Petti will come on strong by mid season, just like Erik Williams did. That's why I said, Fabini will start, he has the experience and savvy, till Rob is ready.


But to clarify up something, Williams was a 3rd round draft choice.
 

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sago1 said:
I'm one of those whose heart would love for Pettiti to beat out a healthy Fabini at RT but I'm also realistically enough to think a 6th rounder doesn't make the jump to become a pretty good starting RT in his second year. Hope Pettiti can do it cause I admire the kid's heart, work ethic, etc., but I'm only being realistic in thinking Fabini's experience wins him the job this year, but look out in 07 cause I don't think Fabini stands a chance then.

This is where my opinion differs...he was 6th round pick because he was weighing in at 360 or so. When a good player is out of shape at combines, pro days etc... he will get tagged as lazy etc. Since he's been here playing with BP he has been everything but lazy.

I think he has an excellent chance of winning the competition between with Fabini, infact I'm not convinced Fabini was brought in to start unless he just simply shows to be that much better to Pettiti...which won't happen.

My prediction is that Pettiti will start and Fab will be the swing OT.

That's my hope anyways...
 

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cowboyjoe said:
I agree with you, I think Petti will come on strong by mid season, just like Erik Williams did. That's why I said, Fabini will start, he has the experience and savvy, till Rob is ready.


But to clarify up something, Williams was a 3rd round draft choice.
I stand corrected, sir. Thank you!
 

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Then, I am still hopeful that Stephen Peterman is one of our young offensive guards. Reports are that Al Johnson has increased his strength and size by 15 pounds or so to handle bigger DT's and NT's. Gurode is ok, if his head is finally on straight.

I'll go with this also.
 

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This is where my opinion differs...he was 6th round pick because he was weighing in at 360 or so. When a good player is out of shape at combines, pro days etc... he will get tagged as lazy etc. Since he's been here playing with BP he has been everything but lazy.

I think he has an excellent chance of winning the competition between with Fabini, infact I'm not convinced Fabini was brought in to start unless he just simply shows to be that much better to Pettiti...which won't happen.

My prediction is that Pettiti will start and Fab will be the swing OT.

That's my hope anyways...

I think Fabini was clearly brought it to be the starter, I like Pettiti and if he can win the job great but I think this is Fabini job to lose.
 

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Or both could be swing OTs? I think if Starters are set, we might have good backups this year, but thats a BIG IF.

With my rose colored glasses on, I think we will be pleasantly surprised with the OL this year (barring injuries of course). No matter who starts at RT, he will have earned the starting position. We have 3 OL's to compete at RT, and if all stay healty, the best at the time will be there with quality back up.

It may not be the best situation in the NFL, but it's a start.
 

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Look I don't mean to be critical but didn't Petititi lead the league in sacks by a RT, he's got a real long ways to go but it sounds like at least he's trying to improve anyway..
 

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Actually, I think if BP had his druthers, Rob would beat out Fabini and we'd have a very good backup for both positions in Fabs.

Whoever loses is the swing tackle.

Personally, I think Fabini will win....he has been a very solid pro and I think many here underestimate him.

However, for the long term success of the club, it'd be nice for Petitti to win the job.
 
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