PFT: Art Rooney among the four owners that will attend mediation

[WoodysGirl]

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on May 12, 2011, 11:45 AM EDT

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said last week that four owners would represent the league at mediation starting Monday.

We’ve got the lineup, courtesy of Albert Breer of NFL Network and the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. Steeler owner Art Rooney II, Panthers owner Jerry Richardson, Bengals owner Mike Brown, and John Mara of the Giants will be in attendance.

Read the rest: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...g-the-four-owners-that-will-attend-mediation/

 

[BrassCowboy]

Well good for the NFL to have a good balance. Good negotiations need a little of the tough with the passive.

 

[Khartun]

why the hell would they send Mike Brown?

 

[TNCowboy]

why the hell would they send Mike Brown?

So that moron owners would have a representative also.

 

[WoodysGirl]

So that moron owners would have a representative also.

That moron was one of two who hated the last deal...

Says alot when not even two years later, the owners were opting out of the deal.

 

[fan62]

I don't see this mediation doing anything! This one is going to have to be decided in the courts, and that may take a good long time! Lawyers have this one and they won't let go!

 

[Hostile]

Oh please let them reach an agreement.

 

[CCBoy]

Oh please let them reach an agreement.

With a lawyer at the head of the Union, a whole body Union vote will never occur. Players as a whole, would have accepted previous offers on the table...if given a total vote opportunity. The lawyer head took the route of maximum monetary returns, for his vantage and reflective in a general monetary comparison scale only. Gross covers a significance of hidden wrongs also...any 'grass roots' direction has already been squelched by lack of action. The players seem resolved to riding out process. And just wishing for football to be on an industry basis.

Those same players who forged, under Smith's direction, a litigation...could as well come together and force a realistic settlement as well. Lacking a functional head of it's own, that same group of players will remain dormant and waiting for someone else to forge a path. For all intents and purposes, on the 'association's' side of things, that remains in Smith as it's head. Oh, the plummage he will strut around with in his hat, no matter the feelings of fans and owners...but I'll add my prayer to that of yours, Hos.

 

[TNCowboy]

That moron was one of two who hated the last deal...

Says alot when not even two years later, the owners were opting out of the deal.

I think a lot more than 2 hated it, including our team's owner, but only 2 voted against it. Jay Glazer reported as much 5 years ago, in the few days following the agreement. He laid things out pretty much exactly as they have progressed, the owners opting out in 2008, an uncapped season, and eventualy locking the players out in 2011.

 

[Hostile]

I think a lot more than 2 hated it, including our team's owner, but only 2 voted against it. Jay Glazer reported as much 5 years ago, in the few days following the agreement. He laid things out pretty much exactly as they have progressed, the owners opting out in 2008, an uncapped season, and eventualy locking the players out in 2011.

No, only two owners voted against it. They were Mike Brown and Ralph Wilson.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Oh please let them reach an agreement.

I second this!

 

[dogberry]

Is there a chart that shows when each of the owners came to the Brown/Wilson position? When did buyer's remorse kick in?

 

[InmanRoshi]

Glad we got some moderate owners at the table rather than the usual Jerry/Richardson/Kraft three headed hawk.

And as far as a pure business man, Mike Brown is about as saavy as they come. He puts as little money into his team as he possibly can, he's the only owner in the NFL who got the taxpayers to pay for everything regarding his stadium, including maintenance, renovations and even game day operating costs, and he just pockets all the rest of the money. Of course, the taxpayers of Cincy then brought a lawsuit against Brown saying the Bengals don't live up to their end of their taxpayer funded extravagantly luxurious stadium lease because they make no effort fielding a competitive team in return. But remember folks, DeMaurice Smith is the real slimeball in all of this.

 

[AbeBeta]

Rooney really is a good person to have there. I always thought that if the NFL were like the MLB that Rooney would be commish

 

[CooterBrown]

I don't see this mediation doing anything! This one is going to have to be decided in the courts, and that may take a good long time! Lawyers have this one and they won't let go!

I think they will reach an agreement, and I think it will be last-hour before the hearing on June 3. After Judge Nelson ruled, the players had powerful leverage on the owners. When the appellate court reinstated the lockout, the players lost that leverage. Two of the three judges hearing the case have already ruled on that issue in favor of the owners. (and despite the claims of many on this and other boards that the "administrative stay" would be quickly disposed of in the players favor, that has not happened, and apparently will not happen until at least the hearing on the third of June.) What that means, is that neither side can say with any degree of certainty or even liklihood, what the court of appeals will decide. And, because neither side can feel smug about the situation, both sides should be ready to make reasonable compromises to reach a settlement.

Because I believe the owners have put together a good cross-section of the owner factions, I believe if both sides really negotiate in good-faith, they can, and will, reach an agreement.

 

[CCBoy]

I think they will reach an agreement, and I think it will be last-hour before the hearing on June 3. After Judge Nelson ruled, the players had powerful leverage on the owners. When the appellate court reinstated the lockout, the players lost that leverage. Two of the three judges hearing the case have already ruled on that issue in favor of the owners. (and despite the claims of many on this and other boards that the "administrative stay" would be quickly disposed of in the players favor, that has not happened, and apparently will not happen until at least the hearing on the third of June.) What that means, is that neither side can say with any degree of certainty or even liklihood, what the court of appeals will decide. And, because neither side can feel smug about the situation, both sides should be ready to make reasonable compromises to reach a settlement.

Because I believe the owners have put together a good cross-section of the owner factions, I believe if both sides really negotiate in good-faith, they can, and will, reach an agreement.

Cooter, I hope you aren't dealing with intense scorchers just yet out there. Have a cool refreshment, even if a juice nature....nice comment and advice accepted on issue.

That would save face for more than players and owners...and for my benefit, a parable.

The beast of burden stopped in his path. Refusing to proceed an inch further. The owner got of and coaxed, then swore, and then beat about the beast in fits of rage...and slowly looked up in the direction that beast stared. There, the Angel of the Lord stood with unsheathed sword ready to fell that man if but an inch further was traveled...

 

[bysbox1]

No, only two owners voted against it. They were Mike Brown and Ralph Wilson.

Just a question though Hos.

I thought even though 2 owners voted against it, there were a lot more that did not like it and even made indications when the deal was signed that it would be opted out. I thought Jerry even made a comment saying that he was not exactly thrilled with the deal but approved it. I also thought Kraft, while he approved it, was not happy with the deal either at the time it was made. They just did not want to stop football. I also thought that Gene Upshaw and Tagliabue had a lot to do with pushing that deal through even though the owners did not like it much.

Just checking because I thought I remembered hearing Jones say that.

On a side note, I really miss Gene Upshaw. If he were still alive and NFLPA executive director we would not have this mess. A deal would have been done long ago.

 

[TNCowboy]

No, only two owners voted against it. They were Mike Brown and Ralph Wilson.

That's exactly what I said. 2 voted against it.

 

[Nightshade]

Rooney really is a good person to have there. I always thought that if the NFL were like the MLB that Rooney would be commish

Yeah. Glad Jerry's not there. Doesn't it suck liking and respecting those damn Rooney guys? UGH. Freaking Steelers.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Yeah, pretty sure at least three of those four are pretty hawkish. Not sure about Rooney.