PFT: Belichick is "very surprised" he hasn't heard from NFL teams

Flamma

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I have nothing against him as a coach, but his record without Brady is 82-98 and he is 1-2 in the playoffs without him.

I do not think is a bad coach and I do think he is a solid defensive coordinator, but his history without Brady was never very good.

Add to that the fact that Brady went to Tampa Bay of all places and won a Super Bowl with that team further cements that legacy.
I do largely agree with you, but you have to consider what he had without Brady. Would any coach have done better?

I believe it is heavily weighted towards the QB in any situation. When he went to Tampa, I predicted they'd go to the SB before the season started. You could probably find that post in here. My predictions are 95% wrong. But Tampa was so set up for him I could see it from a mile away. It didn't matter who the coach was.
 

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This is the answer for "what are we going to do without Dak"... the world moves on everyday! What would the Patriots do without the greatest coach EVER?

Every man - no matter how brilliant - is only good for his time. Afterwards...you must exit stage left.

I would love Bill here over MM...only for the reason that Bill will not be afraid to disagree and temper the worst impulses of Jerry. But hey...he's 72. Do you want to hire a 72 year old guy with 2028 in mind? Most owners don't.
 

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Belichick won 10 games two years ago with Mac Jones at QB. A feat that is increasingly looking more and more unbelievable. It's absurd to think the game has passed him by.
 

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Some people are truly ridiculous just crediting Brady for a coach that won 6 super bowls. Same could be said about any Super Bowl coach that had a great QB. It takes a lot more to win 6 championships plus 2 as a DC no matter how good your QB is. You can guarantee if Brady was drafted by the slop Jerry was putting together around that time his career trajectory would look very different.
I kinda agree.. its not like Brady was flinging the ball about like a Merino. (not that Im trying to say that Brady wasn't great)

They won a lot by having a good defense and a kicker.. as well as having Tom... every player on the field knew what their job was.. BB had them primed and ready.

Still dont want him tho..
 

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I do largely agree with you, but you have to consider what he had without Brady. Would any coach have done better?

I believe it is heavily weighted towards the QB in any situation. When he went to Tampa, I predicted they'd go to the SB before the season started. You could probably find that post in here. My predictions are 95% wrong. But Tampa was so set up for him I could see it from a mile away. It didn't matter who the coach was.
It is fair to ask that question since the massive number of Super Bowl appearances and wins are very unlikely to have been duplicated by another coach with Brady, at least back then.

It is also possible that the type of coach Belichick is meshed well with Brady's skills and preferences so that made him and the team better.

I do think Belichick is a good coach, but I still think without Brady he falls back into the middle of the pack amongst other NFL coaches.

I think Brady winning in Tampa Bay really impacted Belichick's credit for those Super Bowl years, at least in the eyes of many NFL fans.
 

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Honestly, I think he would be best suited to coach the Bills. Assuming they flame out in the postseason and fire the HC.

Elite QB? Check
Decent defense? Check
Good culture/rabid fans? Check

That's a SB ready team missing a HC to get them over the hump in the postseason.
Excellent post.
Good call. If McDermott proves he's not the answer again. But I have a hard time dogging him out entirely or Burrows head coach cuz they both hafta face the Mahommes/Reid duo in order to win it all.

Sometimes reality is a *****.
 

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I kinda agree.. its not like Brady was flinging the ball about like a Merino. (not that Im trying to say that Brady wasn't great)

They won a lot by having a good defense and a kicker.. as well as having Tom... every player on the field knew what their job was.. BB had them primed and ready.

Still dont want him tho..

I don't care either way with Jerry and his kid running things. He's probably the only coach who might command the least interference from the Ringling Brothers. I'm just pointing out the vital role he played in the development of the QB. The speed of the game, the tempo of the offense, how to read a defense, tendencies when watching film etc. That preparation played a major role in the success of that team and Tom Brady.
 

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I think a lot of people think the same thing I've been saying for over 10 years and that is Brady was the main reason for the Patriot's success more so than Belichick.

My guess is Belichick is using the North Carolina job to trigger possible 2025 interested NFL teams into contacting him now instead of waiting until after the season is over.
GOATS will take you far. Just ask Phil Jackson.
 

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It is fair to ask that question since the massive number of Super Bowl appearances and wins are very unlikely to have been duplicated by another coach with Brady, at least back then.

It is also possible that the type of coach Belichick is meshed well with Brady's skills and preferences so that made him and the team better.

I do think Belichick is a good coach, but I still think without Brady he falls back into the middle of the pack amongst other NFL coaches.

I think Brady winning in Tampa Bay really impacted Belichick's credit for those Super Bowl years, at least in the eyes of many NFL fans.
I agree. But we'll probably not ever again get to see what he does with an elite QB. Or even a QB like Cousins. Or what could he do with Herbert? We'll never know because he's getting too old.
 

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Inn the middle of the season?

I think Belichick's market will be limited to begin with. First, his age may be a problem. Then, there are those who think he owes his success to Tom Brady. I think that is true to some extent, but not totally. Belichick had some good defenses too and that was not about Brady. It is odd how Belichick suffers from that logic, but Bill Walsh didn't. Walsh coached the 49ers in the 1980s with Joe Montana as his QB and Jerry Rice at WR. True he drafted those players, but so did Belichick draft Tom Brady. Walsh went 2-14 his first year with SF, then 6-10 his second year, the year Montana first started as the QB.
Simple. Walsh drafted and developed so many HOF. He built those 49ers teams.

How many HOF did Belicheck draft and develop? Hes not good at scouting. Ive heard Brady wasn’t even his pick. During his time with New England there was only 3 hall of famers drafted. Brady, Gronk, Seymour.


Nowadays, contrary to what we see in Dallas, teams are hiring g coaches and. Giving them the keys to franchise tk mold the team as they see fits Detroit did it with Campbell, McVay with the Ram, etc.

I don’t think gm’s and owners trust Belicheck with a rebuild. I don’t. I want him in Dallas for his coaching and preparation
 
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