PFT: Fins gave Jake Long a deadline...and expects him to take less money

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DOLPHINS GAVE JAKE LONG A DEADLINE

Posted by Michael David Smith on April 14, 2008, 10:47 a.m.

It has now been widely reported that the Miami Dolphins are engaging in contract negotiations with Michigan offensive tackle Jake Long, and that if the two parties can reach a satisfactory deal, Long will be the first pick in the draft.

But Peter King of SI.com reports that negotiations won’t drag out until the draft. According to King, Long is the only player the Dolphins are actively negotiating with right now, but there is a deadline for Long to accept the deal the Dolphins have offered. If Long doesn’t accept by the deadline, the Dolphins will try to find a player — most likely Ohio State defensive end Vernon Gholston — who will accept a contract favorable to the team.

King also reports that Dolphins front office boss Bill Parcells is hoping to achieve “the victory of paying this year’s first pick less than the first pick earned last year.”

Paying this year’s top pick less than the Raiders gave quarterback JaMarcus Russell last year certainly would constitute a victory. Contracts for top rookies rise every year, just as the salary cap rises every year. If Parcells became the team executive who convinced a top overall pick to take less, that would be a major achievement.

It would also be good business for the Dolphins. Every dollar the Dolphins save on the first pick is a dollar they can spend to upgrade the roster elsewhere, and this is a team that needs help all over the place.

The problem is that no agent wants to be known as the one whose client agreed to take less money. That means there’s a good chance that the Dolphins will fail to find a player willing to take less than Russell got last year — even though some player might end up turning down an offer from the Dolphins, only to eventually accept a deal for even less money from a team that takes him later in the draft.


PARCELLS IS SIMPLY BEING PARCELLS
Posted by Mike Florio on April 14, 2008, 12:11 p.m.

I was out doing “real” work this morning when MDS posted the blurb about the Fins giving Jake Long a deadline for working out a deal to become the No. 1 overall pick, so I haven’t had a chance to chime in regarding the latest disclosure regarding the team’s tactics.

So I will now.

It’s classic Bill Parcells.

His goal, Peter King believes, is to pay the top pick less money than what the No. 1 pick received in 2007. Only Parcells has the personality to pull this off. And pull it off Parcells will, if the player who ultimately agrees to terms gets good advice based on the best interests of the player, not on the self-interests of his agent.

I wrote about the Parcells’ draft-pick dynamic on Friday for SportingNews.com, but that’s not gonna stop me from addressing it in further detail here.

The analysis is simple. Assuming that he has no preference in teams among the top five who select (Miami, St. Louis, Atlanta, Oakland, Kansas City), it’s a dollars-and-cents decision for Jake Long. The issue comes down to how much he’d get in Miami as the No. 1 pick, versus how much he’d get if he isn’t the No. 1 pick.

Gauging that amount can be tricky. Since we’re fairly certain that the Chiefs would pounce on Long if he’s on the board at No. 5, an armchair expert in probability analysis could quickly throw together a formula that would put a dollar value not accepting the Dolphins’ best offer, based on the realistic possibility of getting picked in each spot from No. 2 to No. 5 and the expected contract that each slot will pay.

Under such an analysis, the answer surely would be to take the offer at No. 1.

The only cause for pause would arise if Long were 100 percent certain that he’d otherwise be the No. 2 selection. In that case, he’d need to ask himself whether he thinks he’ll get more money at No. 2 than he’ll get at No. 1.

Complicating matters is the reality that there’s an inherent, but non-specific, marketing value in being the No. 1 overall pick. Also, what Jake Long gets at No. 2 will be influenced heavily by what the Dolphins pay to someone else at No. 1. If one of the other high-end prospects eventually accepts the offer that Jake Long rejects, the ceiling will arguably be established for Jake Long at No. 2.

And Jake Long needs to analyze these tough questions with the input of an agent who would be villified, excoriated, and otherwise dissed by his colleagues in the agent industry if the agent does a deal that actually reduces the astronomical growth in the No. 1 overall contract. From 2003 to 2007, the guaranteed money shot from $15 million to $32 million. The concept of heading in the other direction is something that agents simply aren’t wired to comprehend.

If Long doesn’t take the deal from Miami and lands at No. 5, it won’t be difficult for him to count the difference in real dollars that he sacrificed, possibly so that his agent will then be able to recruit another top-five pick in 2009, 2010, and beyond.

As a league source told me last week, if/when Parcells pulls this off, the first demand from the union in the next CBA will be to prohibit pre-draft negotiations. And that demand will come from the agents who don’t want to be put in the awkward position of serving their clients, and serving themselves.

Maybe this hasn’t happened sooner because the organizations that have held the No. 1 overall pick in the draft were in that position for a reason. This year, the worst team from the prior season cleaned house and brought in a new sheriff who’s willing to take on a fight that, over the past several years, none of the teams at the top of the draft board have had the smarts, the nerve, or the will to wage.

Parcells has it all. And, in this specific context, we love it.
 

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Now this I would respect Parcells for, rookie contracts are out of control.
 

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Please....the OL has a chance to be the #1 overall because the Dolphins want him, not because he's a consensus #1....an OT is not going to get the money QB Russell got last year no matter who takes him where...much ado over nothing.

Either Long will take the huge money, probably more than the top OT made last year, along with the prestige of being the #1 guy and foregoing the stress of draft day, or he'll turn it down, in which case, he won't be the #1 guy taken anyway, will receive less money anyway, and will be thrown back into the mix where he could be drafted anywhere from #2 to even #6.

It's a no brainer in my mind...The OT would be foolish to think any team would match Russell's #1 contract of last year for an OT...sign it, big boy.
 

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wayne motley;2034867 said:
Please....the OL has a chance to be the #1 overall because the Dolphins want him, not because he's a consensus #1....an OT is not going to get the money QB Russell got last year no matter who takes him where...much ado over nothing.

Either Long will take the huge money, probably more than the top OT made last year, along with the prestige of being the #1 guy and foregoing the stress of draft day, or he'll turn it down, in which case, he won't be the #1 guy taken anyway, will receive less money anyway, and will be thrown back into the mix where he could be drafted anywhere from #2 to even #6.

It's a no brainer in my mind...The OT would be foolish to think any team would match Russell's #1 contract of last year for an OT...sign it, big boy.

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i like parcells' approach here. the only problem is that there are only so many guys worthy of the top pick. unless you're willing to take someone clearly not worthy of the #1 pick in order to pay them less, you can only call this bluff so many times.
 

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Combine this with what Colin Cowherd was speculating that I posted about, and I think you have to admit, Parcells is using his head. Both scenarios are freaking brilliant really.
 

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wayne motley;2034867 said:
It's a no brainer in my mind...The OT would be foolish to think any team would match Russell's #1 contract of last year for an OT...sign it, big boy.
Right on the :money:
 

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Yes, taking the cheapest player available rather than best player available is certainly a major victory.
 

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So say Long signs for a lesser deal than Russell got, how much of a trickle down does it have over the rest of the picks.
 

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WoodysGirl;2034915 said:
So say Long signs for a lesser deal than Russell got, how much of a trickle down does it have over the rest of the picks.
Good question. Usually the picks get 5 to 10% above what the same pick did the eyar before. If pick #2 gets more money than pick #1 all bets are off, but you know the team holding the rights to pick #2 will be over a barrell if Miami does this.
 

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WoodysGirl;2034915 said:
So say Long signs for a lesser deal than Russell got, how much of a trickle down does it have over the rest of the picks.
Great question.

I'd love to Ryan go #2. You think he would sign for more than Long because he is a QB and Long took a cheap deal?
 

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Another thing that Parcells could do (though highly unlikely) is not pick at all in his alotted time frame. That gives him the option to hand in his card at ANY time. he could wait until St.Louis or even Atlanta makes their own selection and hand in his card. At that point he could approach the bargaining table with the overall mindset that, though the Dolphins held the #1 selection, their guy wasn't taken until the 2nd or 3rd pick.
 

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skinsscalper;2034919 said:
Another thing that Parcells could do (though highly unlikely) is not pick at all in his alotted time frame. That gives him the option to hand in his card at ANY time. he could wait until St.Louis or even Atlanta makes their own selection and hand in his card. At that point he could approach the bargaining table with the overall mindset that, though the Dolphins held the #1 selection, their guy wasn't taken until the 2nd or 3rd pick.
Funny you mention this.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116440
 

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I've never been a BP fan, but I have to give him his kudos on this one. It is brilliant, gutsy and real out-of-the-box thinking...
 

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TheCount;2034861 said:
Now this I would respect Parcells for, rookie contracts are out of control.


I agree with a rookie cap idea but this is not Parcell's problem to fix. Baddell should do it.
 

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WoodysGirl;2034915 said:
So say Long signs for a lesser deal than Russell got, how much of a trickle down does it have over the rest of the picks.


One can go to rotoworld and figure out every bonus from last year but i don't have the desire. Let's just for arguments sake figure the entire first round received a total of 300-350 million in guaranteed cash. It was probably more, but....... If Bill knocks 7-8-9 million off the Russell bonus, and it does trickle down pick by pick, the lost money could be astronomical as far as the players and their agents are concerned. This is the beginning salvo in a much larger fight to come between organizations and the NFLPA.
 

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wayne motley;2034867 said:
an OT is not going to get the money QB Russell got last year no matter who takes him where...much ado over nothing.

I think what they're saying is that even for an OL the "new" going rate will be unbelieveable. I think BP wants to put the 'ol kibosh on "overall" first round picks robbing the bank. I'm for it. Not because I don't make that kind of money but for the principle of the matter. It's getting insanely ridiculous.
 

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Big Dakota;2035390 said:
One can go to rotoworld and figure out every bonus from last year but i don't have the desire. Let's just for arguments sake figure the entire first round received a total of 300-350 million in guaranteed cash. It was probably more, but....... If Bill knocks 7-8-9 million off the Russell bonus, and it does trickle down pick by pick, the lost money could be astronomical as far as the players and their agents are concerned. This is the beginning salvo in a much larger fight to come between organizations and the NFLPA.

I don't think this will work. Long isn't going to agree for less money, if for no other reason, his agent won't agree because it will hurt his rep down the line; no top players will deal with the agent in the future for caving.

And if BP did get his way, every other 10-ten pick's agent will point at last year's draft slot and use that for leverage, rather than what the 1st pick gets. All this will mean is that the top of the draft players hold out for camp, likely to receive the same contracts they would have anyway.

Houston tried this a couple of years ago. Made absolutely no difference.
 
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