PFT: Jersey change would cost Jerry Porter big money

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POSTED 10:35 a.m. EDT, May 31, 2007

JERSEY CHANGE WOULD COST PORTER BIG MONEY

In past years, there have been plenty of stories about players who paid teammates money in order to get them to give up a given jersey number. On one occasion, a transaction of this nature resulted in a lawsuit after Commanders running back Clinton Portis refused to fork over the balance due on such a deal to a guy who had since been cut from the team.

But we've never previously heard of a player being prevented from changing numbers due to inventory control issues.

Raiders receiver Jerry Porter said earlier this year that he would change from No. 84 to No. 81. He subsequently was informed that, in order to do so, he would have to reimburse the Raiders and Reebok for $210,000 in unsold jerseys bearing Porter's name and the No. 84.

Apparently, one of the issues at work here was that of notice. "The more advance notice a player can provide when requesting a number change, the less chance there is of financial ramifications," Alic said.

But it's unclear how much notice is required. Porter said as early as February 21 that he planned to make the change. When exactly did Reebok begin its production run of $210,000 worth of shirts for an underachieving malcontent on a chronically crappy team?

We also think that a "you change it, you bought it" rule could lead to all sorts of strange complications. What if Porter converts to Islam in July and changes his name? Or what if he simply decides to retire? Will he be asked in either case to buy all of the jerseys that were made in reliance upon the fact that "Porter 84" would be playing for the Raiders this year?

And what if he dies as a result of an accident in which he was in some way negligent? Can the NFL, his team, and/or Reebok sue his estate for recovery of money spent making jerseys bearing his name?

We assume that reality here is that the teams have full control over who is issued a given number. But the notion of a team handing a bill to a player who wants to make a change doesn't sit well with us, and we have a feeling that the Raiders and other teams would only raise an issue like this as to players that the franchise decides it doesn't really like.

That's the real story here. Even though Porter is trying to make nice, the relationship is obviously broken. In an era where NFL teams that truly want to be competitive would spend twice the salary cap limit or more if it meant winning a Super Bowl, the Raiders' decision not to eat the cost of a bunch of jerseys that they still could have sold for $10 bucks each tells us that they'd love to eject Porter from the "Once a Raider, Always a Raider" club.
 

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If I was a Raider, I'd want to long gone from them as well. But to require Porter to replay cost of those shirts is ridiculous. Heck, does the Raiders action mean down the road that all players will have to reimburse their club and Reybock if their shirts didn't sell as well as anticipated for any variety of reasons.
 

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If Porter wanted the jersy no. changed, why didn't he tell them way ahead (earlier than January 21) of time? Porter should have to pay if he really wants the number changed

The world doesn't revolve around you dummy.
 

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Don't rookies pay veterans for jersey numbers as late as training camp so they can have the same number as in college?

Just donate the friggin jersey's to childrens groups and write it off, jeez.
 

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dallasfaniac;1514431 said:
Don't rookies pay veterans for jersey numbers as late as training camp so they can have the same number as in college?

Just donate the friggin jersey's to childrens groups and write it off, jeez.
we're talking $210,000, not $210.... Alot of cheese to donate for a jersey with the wrong number.
 

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That's idiotic -- it sounds like they are charging the guy the retail cost of the shirts rather than the production cost.
 

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BouncingCheese;1514424 said:
If Porter wanted the jersy no. changed, why didn't he tell them way ahead (earlier than January 21) of time? Porter should have to pay if he really wants the number changed

The world doesn't revolve around you dummy.

What? Do you work for Al Davis or something. He shouldn't have to pay Reebok or the Raiders if he wants to change numbers. Players change their numbers all the time. What if he gets traded? Does he have to pay the Raiders and Reebok then? Reebok has a license to put the NFL logo on their merchandise, they have to deal with the fact that players may change teams, numbers, and possibly even their name (Dominick Davis).
 

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WoodysGirl;1514495 said:
we're talking $210,000, not $210.... Alot of cheese to donate for a jersey with the wrong number.

And we're also talking about changing jersey numbers which happens year in and year out. $210,000 is pretty much pocket change for the club and Reebok. This is just because of the player involved. Jerry Rice used 80 at Seattle even though the jersey was retired. How do the Largent fans feel about unretiring the jersey number, which still sells at sports memorbelia stores, now that Rice wore it for all of 13 games and 25 catches?
 

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dallasfaniac;1514521 said:
How do the Largent fans feel about unretiring the jersey number, which still sells at sports memorbelia stores, now that Rice wore it for all of 13 games and 25 catches?

They probably don't care. It isn't like Rice changed his last name to Largent
 

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ROFL!!!

So Porter who isnt getting paid for the jersey sales should pay because someone else is marketing his name and number???The NFL owns the right to market him but it is HIS number.

I think he'd win this in a lawsuit.

If he paid them 210K for those jerseys that about 150k more than they'd make selling them. His jersey might fetch 8 bucks at a KMart right now.
 

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WoodysGirl;1514495 said:
we're talking $210,000, not $210.... Alot of cheese to donate for a jersey with the wrong number.

they chose to make 'em. it's their business, their problem. what about all the trading cards out there now w/the wrong number? does he have to buy them all back at full value and get them "touched up"?

when players leave teams or as has been pointed out - get their number changed - tough for the fan who has the jersey and good for the ones getting them on clearance because they didn't care.

the real "crime" is printing that many porter jerseys anyway. :eek:
 

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My favorite part was yet another mention of Commanders' turd running back Clinton Portis.
 

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adamknite;1514512 said:
What? Do you work for Al Davis or something. He shouldn't have to pay Reebok or the Raiders if he wants to change numbers. Players change their numbers all the time. What if he gets traded? Does he have to pay the Raiders and Reebok then? Reebok has a license to put the NFL logo on their merchandise, they have to deal with the fact that players may change teams, numbers, and possibly even their name (Dominick Davis).


:shush: (Shhhh...keep that on the downlow. I am in the compound currently; I am giving info to Jerrah on how to NOT run an organization....don't blow my COVER!!!!)

anyways it's a non-issue far as I am concerned.
 

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Wait..He didnt want to give Moss the #84 but now that he is gone he wants to change out of #84?
 

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abersonc;1514502 said:
That's idiotic -- it sounds like they are charging the guy the retail cost of the shirts rather than the production cost.

they're basically charging him the price of the jerseys under his current # that haven't been sold

they're holding his jersey's not being sold against him
 

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iceberg;1514587 said:
the real "crime" is printing that many porter jerseys anyway. :eek:
Man's got a decent point. Maybe this year he can make a few plays on the field to make his jersey a little more desirable.
 

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Bob Sacamano;1515033 said:
they're basically charging him the price of the jerseys under his current # that haven't been sold

they're holding his jersey's not being sold against him

Sorry Jerry, we didn't sell your jerseys because the unqualified coach we hired didn't play you because he wanted to show how tough he was. Now give us 200K.
 
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