PFT: Joey Sunshine sounds off on MNF

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POSTED 8:10 a.m. EDT; UPDATED 9:46 a.m. EDT, June 23, 2007

JOEY SUNSHINE SOUNDS OFF, AGAIN

As part of Joe Thiesmann's side gig as a pitchman for prostate health, the former Commanders quarterback recently was in Boston. And it's obvious that he's got something other than a doctor's finger up his butt.

Joe is still upset about the manner in which he was unceremoniously dumped from ESPN's Monday Night Football.

"I'm not happy with what happened," Theismann said. "When you sit down in a meeting and they tell you that you've had your best year ever, and the ratings have gone up 50 percent and the executives don't even talk to my boss and tell me that they didn't like the fact that I talked about football, you have a little trouble trying to process how you could have done better.

"For Mike [Tirico] and Tony [Kornheiser] and Ron [Jaworski], it’ll be a learning process again, because Ron hasn't done television. Tony is extremely neurotic. And I think Mike really settled in. I felt like the last six games we really settled in as a real solid team, all of us. And now, they’ll have to re-create that chemistry again. I'm disappointed, certainly I never expected it. But the people at ESPN understand how to deliver a product. I will say this — I believe, 100 percent that you cannot insult the football fan. 'Monday Night Football' is about football, and I hope that they continue to deliver that product to the fan. 'Monday Night Football' cannot be an extension of 'Pardon The Interruption,' because the game is too important. That's just the way I feel."

That's fine, Joe. But if that's the way that you feel, why are you still working for ESPN? Why haven't you left?

You see, Joe wants to still pocket his MNF money, even if he's no longer on the MNF broadcast. So he's more than happy to continue to work for the company that disrespected him, because doing so pays much better than any other gig he can currently find.

And ESPN doesn't want to fire him, because they don't want to have to pay out the balance of his contract and get nothing in return. But what's worse? Paying him not to work, or paying him to write least-common-denominator Internet fluff while he's periodically calling into question the decisions of ESPN management? (Hell, we're doing that for free.)

For the company, the smart outcome is to work out a deal where he walks away for something less than the full value of his contract. But it could be that they're waiting for Joe to eventually say or do something in anger that would constitute a breach of his contract, thereby allowing them to cut him loose, and also stiff him.
 

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WoodysGirl;1536359 said:
"When you sit down in a meeting and they tell you that you've had your best year ever, and the ratings have gone up 50 percent and the executives don't even talk to my boss and tell me that they didn't like the fact that I talked about football, you have a little trouble trying to process how you could have done better.

Wow, too many gems to make fun of here so I'll pick just one. Seems to me that the ratings increase may have a little more to do with the switch to Monday night than the fact that Joe likes to talk about football.
 

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WoodysGirl;1536359 said:
"I will say this — I believe, 100 percent that you cannot insult the football fan. 'Monday Night Football' is about football, and I hope that they continue to deliver that product to the fan. 'Monday Night Football' cannot be an extension of 'Pardon The Interruption,' because the game is too important. That's just the way I feel."

trust me Joe, cutting you off is doing the football fan a favor
 

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I am not a big fan of theisman, but I can tolerate him, most here hate him but I really dont.

I do agree with him that espn delivers the game as if everyone watching is a complete moron and they barely talk about the actual game. I found the whole espn pregame, in game and post game as garbage and mainly for that reason.

Having to listen to an interview with people from lost and desperate housewifes right in the middle of the game is insulting.

He is right though, they have decided its about entertainment for them and not about the football. I will always watch it because I love the nfl, but it really was horrendous last year. Obsessing over minute things or bs that happened during the week and not the game.
 

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"I'm not happy with what happened," Theismann said. "When you sit down in a meeting and they tell you that you've had your best year ever, and the ratings have gone up 50 percent and the executives don't even talk to my boss and tell me that they didn't like the fact that I talked about football, you have a little trouble trying to process how you could have done better.

If Joe Theesman thinks HE's the freakin' reason that the ratings are up by 50 percent... which is one helluva skew IMHO... then I'm:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
 

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WoodysGirl;1536359 said:
"I'm not happy with what happened," Theismann said. "When you sit down in a meeting and they tell you that you've had your best year ever, and the ratings have gone up 50 percent and the executives don't even talk to my boss and tell me that they didn't like the fact that I talked about football, you have a little trouble trying to process how you could have done better.
Really? So they went and hired a guy who is known for his expertise in X's and O's? That makes sense. :rolleyes:

Or maybe they just didn't like the way you talked about football. You know, displaying ignorance and what not.

"For Mike [Tirico] and Tony [Kornheiser] and Ron [Jaworski], it’ll be a learning process again, because Ron hasn't done television. Tony is extremely neurotic. And I think Mike really settled in.
So who the hell has that been on my television on ESPN every day for the past decade?
 

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This is weird, and I'm going to get it from everyone, and I hate myself for it, but...

I agree with Joe Theisman.:eekmouse:
 

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Haha

"When you sit down in a meeting and they tell you that you've had your best year ever, and the ratings have gone up 50 percent and the executives don't even talk to my boss and tell me that they didn't like the fact that I talked about football, you have a little trouble trying to process how you could have done better.

Hey Joe, guess what? You can still have a career year in the booth and still be terrible! The guy just doesn't get it.
 

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BouncingCheese;1536445 said:
Haha



Hey Joe, guess what? You can still have a career year in the booth and still be terrible! The guy just doesn't get it.

Yeah, the Toll Booth somewhere in D.C...! Of course he would screw that up too! He's the worst announcer I have ever heard.

And, I bet Norman Einstein would agree....

:cool:
 

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He was condescending to Kornheiser the entire time and it was evident that Kornheiser was willing to work with Theisman but Theisman's ego would not allow him to work with Kornheiser. Thats the impression that I got.

PTI is entertaining because of the way that kornheiser and Wilbon play off each other. You tell that the two are friends and Theissman was about as far from that as is possible. Jaworski looks like a toad that has been run over but hes not an egomaniac and hes one of the best Xs and Os analysts in the business.

Mike Tirico on the other hand is the worst play by play announcer that I have ever seen. He sounds uninformed and like a wuss when he talks.
 

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5Stars;1536451 said:
Yeah, the Toll Booth somewhere in D.C...! Of course he would screw that up too! He's the worst announcer I have ever heard.

And, I bet Norman Einstein would agree....

:cool:

Did you see how he got in that zinger about Kornhole being neurotic. :lmao: ...

Heismann was always picking on him and his analysis... like his own was so great.

The tool booth thing took me a few seconds to get; I forgot what I wrote in my own post. That was worthy of a chuckle:laugh2:
 

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"I'm not happy with what happened," Theismann said. "When you sit down in a meeting and they tell you that you've had your best year ever, and the ratings have gone up 50 percent and the executives don't even talk to my boss and tell me that they didn't like the fact that I talked about football, you have a little trouble trying to process how you could have done better

Certainly he means ESPN's ratings went up 50%, and not MNF.

Well duh...of course they did...they added MNF to their lineup. Any network's ratings would skyrocket by adding MNF.
 

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theebs;1536370 said:
I am not a big fan of theisman, but I can tolerate him, most here hate him but I really dont.

I do agree with him that espn delivers the game as if everyone watching is a complete moron and they barely talk about the actual game. I found the whole espn pregame, in game and post game as garbage and mainly for that reason.

Having to listen to an interview with people from lost and desperate housewifes right in the middle of the game is insulting.

He is right though, they have decided its about entertainment for them and not about the football. I will always watch it because I love the nfl, but it really was horrendous last year. Obsessing over minute things or bs that happened during the week and not the game.
Exactly. I knew things were bad last year when I heard Kornheiser talking on 103.3 last year about how they had to do other things to keep people entertained because the game wasn't enough. He actually claimed that only the fans of the two teams playing cared enough about the game, and the rest needed the celebrity interviews and other fluff. What an idiotic concept. How did the MNF franchise get to this point if the game itself is just a prop?

Theisman is a poor announcer and an easy target, but he's right on this one. They basically let Kornheiser call the shot here because he's the star of their best show, PTI. But making the game itself just part of the show is sheer stupidity.

Looks like I'll be finding the game audio on radio again this year until ESPN can get it right.
 
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jackrussell............I had that comic book years ago about the Cowboys and Coach Landry and someone stole. I bet it would be hard to get now days and the price will be high.
 

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Why cant they just put Chris Berman in the booth....I bet he would be entertaining to listen too...He can be the color analyst while Jaws does the play by play.....then they can add someone else in there to add flavor.....maybe Paul Maguire

For sideline reporting......Rachel Nichols and Darren Woodson
 
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