PFT: League, Union start CBA talks

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LEAGUE, UNION START CBA TALKS (FINALLY)
Posted by Mike Florio on May 12, 2008, 4:52 p.m.

With a CBA that won’t expire until 2011 at the earliest but also with the prospects of the “last capped year” threatening to create all sorts of challenges in 2009, the NFL and the NFL Players Association finally have commenced the process of negotiating a possible extension to the labor contract.

Daniel Kaplan and Liz Mullen of SportsBusiness Daily report that the two sides met on May 8 in New York.

NFLPA Executive Director Gene Upshaw’s weekly “100 words” item on NFLPA.org disclosed the meeting: “We met with NFL negotiators last Thursday in New York. Attendees included owners Jerry Richardson and Pat Bowlen, the League’s financial team and its new outside attorney, Bob Batterman. The NFL discussed the 32 teams’ financial condition and how the CBA has caused every club to lose money. They are attempting to gather financial information to share with the NFLPA. We made it clear that we are willing to discuss their financial condition, but we cannot expect our players to embrace the NFL’s position without the owners providing audited financial statements. This is just the first step in the process.” (By the way, that comes out to 100 words on the nose . . . we wonder whether there’s an NFLPA employee who is paid in part to make sure that exactly 100 words are used by Upshaw. If so, it would be a prudent use of those player dues. Eye roll.)

We wonder whether the NFL genuinely has taken the position that “every club” is losing money, or whether Upshaw is slanting the issue to advance his own agenda. There’s a buzz in some league circles that Upshaw prefers labor problems to labor peace, given the tenuous hold he now has on his position. Last week, NFLPA President Kewin Mawae declared that there would be no leadership change while the CBA is in flux, which naturally gives Upshaw a clear incentive to keep the CBA in flux for as long as possible.

The league and the union both have the opportunity to pull the plug on the current CBA two years early, which would make 2010 the final year of the deal — and also a season without a salary cap. Though from the league’s perspective the proposition is often characterized as the ability of the owners to opt out of the deal, the reality is that 24 of the 32 owners must affirmatively agree to continue the deal or it will expire early.

And that means that it only will take nine owners to pull the plug two years early on the CBA.

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TheCount

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This is going to be a war.

Upshaw is gonna FUBAR this one up real nice.
 

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I'm just glad they're talking.

I have a terrible feeling we're gonna have a work stoppage in 2-3 years.

:bang2:
 

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stasheroo;2079691 said:
I'm just glad they're talking.

I have a terrible feeling we're gonna have a work stoppage in 2-3 years.

:bang2:

I have the opposite feeling I think they will get a contract worked out. I do think both sides will have to make certain concessions for a deal to be hammered out but I think all sides know that a work stoppage or strike is not good for either side.
 

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stasheroo;2079691 said:
I'm just glad they're talking.

I have a terrible feeling we're gonna have a work stoppage in 2-3 years.

:bang2:
Right in the middle of us being very good too.
 

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zeromaster;2079766 said:
That's probably why it'll happen...

Hope I'm wrong.

Maybe Super Bowl XLV will have to be renamed "Scab Bowl I":lmao2:
 

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DWhite Fan;2080092 said:
Maybe Super Bowl XLV will have to be renamed "Scab Bowl I":lmao2:

No, the Commanders won that one...and Scab Bowl II.

Maybe Scab Bowl III?
 

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This is a mess waiting to happen and I for one dread the thoughts of it!
 

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If players strike, does that time still count against their contract and do they forfeit their pay for that time? I'm not real familiar with unions. :confused:
 

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Hostile;2079735 said:
Right in the middle of us being very good too.

Yeah that sucks even more. "Salt in an open" wound doesn't even being to describe it.

Wonder how far a rookie pay scale will go in discussions?
 

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starfrombirth;2080156 said:
If players strike, does that time still count against their contract and do they forfeit their pay for that time? I'm not real familiar with unions. :confused:

If they have a stoppage or strike the players will not be drawing paychecks. It clearly would put a crimp in their life style and that of their wives and as the old saying goes “If momma is not happy no one is happy.” :laugh2:
 
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