News: PFT: Marriott: NFL interviewed employee, reviewed video in Michael Irvin case

[Reality]

 

[Reality]

Reminder .. keep this thread ON-TOPIC!

It does not matter what happened in other cases. This thread is about the Irvin lawsuit.

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Anyone violating these rules or the Forum Rules will be banned from this thread and possibly have their account suspended!

 

[Merlin]

And yet they only lease their name to that franchisee. And yet that franchisee contacted the NFL and immediately got their attention.

Now they throwing the NFL under the bus.

 

[CouchCoach]

At least you had a new one to post before locking the current one and I thank you. I was going through withdrawals with no Irvin thread.

This allows us to carry over the same arguments from the very first thread on this.

And this allows the Goodell haters to weigh in now because of course, he's behind this.

 

[Reid1boys]

That video is going to be the end of it. If the video shows the woman PULLING her hand back and stepping back only to have Irvin step toward her again, followed by her walking away and then a 2nd employee walking up to Irvin and then seeing Irvin do a 3 stooges 3 slaps to the face... that will back up the story as it has been told. And if the video shows all of that, they should have released it. I have a feeling the video is not going to be perfect for us. Then it will come down to mike and the witnesses that back him vs the witnesses for the woman. Marriott released the events with the NFL because they are basically saying this was the NFL, not us. The NFL should be the one being sued, not us. Irvin isnt suing them because he wants his job back, but if he gets fired, you can guarantee the NFL will be added to that suit.

Here is the important part taken from the article:

That’s not to say anyone is lying, for now. But words on paper are one thing. Testimony that withstands tough questions aimed at testing the limits of its truthfulness is another.

The only people who have spoken on the matter from Marriott’s perspective are Marriott’s lawyers. And they have already undermined their own credibility by defying a court order to properly produce the surveillance video of the interaction.

That’s the point that keeps bugging me, frankly. If Marriott thought the video supported its subsequent decision to sound an alarm to NFL Network, Marriott should have no qualms about making it available, to anyone. Marriott’s behavior as it relates to the video suggests that the company has something to hide.

It’s a foolish strategy, because in situations like this the truth — whatever it is — always comes out.

 

[CouchCoach]

So, I am a little confused here. I understood the hotel was moving him and this is what started the whole NFLN involvement.

He was still in the hotel when the NFL investigator arrived to question the woman and view the video and the NFL sent their own people to escort him? To where?

He's out of the hotel but not on the NFLN and they have his entire schedule and they know this call in is scheduled on 105.3 and they do not tell him to avoid that?

Why did this woman investigator, and I wonder if that's the one that thought Elliott should not be disciplined, call in NFL personnel to escort him out of the hotel? Why did they take custody of him? Was it for his own protection?

Were the other guests getting all rowdy and talking about lynching him? Because I know that was a grave concern of his.

 

[MarcusRock]

This is what I said before. Marriott's going to tell Irvin that his beef is with the NFL and to go sue them and ask the judge to dismiss this one.

 

[Reid1boys]

At least you had a new one to post before locking the current one and I thank you. I was going through withdrawals with no Irvin thread.

This allows us to carry over the same arguments from the very first thread on this.

And this allows the Goodell haters to weigh in now because of course, he's behind this.

I know I was like, damn. I guess we can talk about the new turf they are putting out behind AT&T for after game music.

 

[Reality]

At least you had a new one to post before locking the current one and I thank you. I was going through withdrawals with no Irvin thread.

This allows us to carry over the same arguments from the very first thread on this.

And this allows the Goodell haters to weigh in now because of course, he's behind this.

I have posted several threads related to this topic, but a few days ago one had to be locked early because it had devolved into off-topic and various rule violating posts.

 

[Merlin]

Were other guests getting all rowdy and talking about lynching him? Because I know that was a grave concern of his.

Again please stop! Were did you get this from? If true, then maybe his press conference comments make sense now?

 

[Reality]

This is what I said before. Marriott's going to tell Irvin that his beef is with the NFL and to go sue them and ask the judge to dismiss this one.

It's a good strategy, but the problem is that they still started this process by proactively contacting the NFL and informing them of it, so they are on the hook unless/until it is ruled that what she is claiming is true.

At this point, Marriott needs Irvin to be guilty to avoid being part of a trial or settlement in this case.

 

[CouchCoach]

I know I was like, damn. I guess we can talk about the new turf they are putting out behind AT&T for after game music.

To some, the same old arguments bore them. That's because they're not hip deep in it like we are and I am enjoying the hell out of this.

Now we get to add the element of the NFL and Goodell's deep seated hatred for all things Dallas.

I do wonder just what Goodell has heard from the owners about this. Could they be looking at a lawsuit themselves now?

 

[CouchCoach]

Again please stop! Were did you get this from? If true, then maybe his press conference comments make sense now?

No, I will not stop. I consider what he said in that press conference worse than what he might have said to that woman.

 

[Merlin]

No, I will not stop. I consider what he said in that press conference worse than what he might have said to that woman.

Well just keep making up stuff going off topic despite the warnings from @Reality. You are a member of the staff.

 

[CouchCoach]

It's a good strategy, but the problem is that they still started this process by proactively contacting the NFL and informing them of it, so they are on the hook unless/until it is ruled that what she is claiming is true.

At this point, Marriott needs Irvin to be guilty to avoid being part of a trial or settlement in this case.

It does get more interesting with every new release of information.

Getting the investigator involved that quickly was interesting and if she did really move quickly after viewing the video, what did she see? And why call in more NFL personnel to take Irvin out of the hotel?

 

[CouchCoach]

Well just keep making up stuff going off topic despite the warnings from @Reality. You are a member of the staff.

That is a part of the topic, that was his defense in the pc. I will not dwell on that but it did happen.

I am far more interested why they felt the need to have more NFL personnel come to move Irvin and where did they move him?

 

[Reid1boys]

To some, the same old arguments bore them. That's because they're not hip deep in it like we are and I am enjoying the hell out of this.

Now we get to add the element of the NFL and Goodell's deep seated hatred for all things Dallas.

I do wonder just what Goodell has heard from the owners about this. Could they be looking at a lawsuit themselves now?

Hell yea. It all depends on how this all went down, but after seeing the release from Marriott, it sounds like the NFL has played a huge role in this. They spoke to the female, did they question MIke? or did they just speak to her and accept all she said as fact and then drop the hammer? again, Mike, IMO can not sue them for breah of contract because my guess is that he is still getting paid.

It is the exact same thing when Ray Rice was put on the "Commissioner's exempt list." I had never even heard of that thing prior to Rice. They put rice in the corner as they had no leg to stand on to suspend him. So they put him in the corner, paid him each week and let his contract expire at the end of the year and then nobody would touch him.

NFLN could do the same here. Pay Mike for the remainder of this year, and then if his contract ends this year just not renew it and move on. BUT, lets say Mike has 2 years left on his deal, he will certainly sue them for that and future earnings. The plot thickens for sure.

 

[Praxit]

At least you had a new one to post before locking the current one and I thank you. I was going through withdrawals with no Irvin thread.

This allows us to carry over the same arguments from the very first thread on this.

And this allows the Goodell haters to weigh in now because of course, he's behind this.

..yep, yep. Gordy is always interested in what Dallas players are doing. Past N Present.

 

[Merlin]

That is a part of the topic, that was his defense in the pc. I will not dwell on that but it did happen.

I am far more interested why they felt the need to have more NFL personnel come to move Irvin and where did they move him?

What I quoted from you was definitely not on topic regardless of whether you believe it was or not.

 

[Reid1boys]

So, I am a little confused here. I understood the hotel was moving him and this is what started the whole NFLN involvement.

He was still in the hotel when the NFL investigator arrived to question the woman and view the video and the NFL sent their own people to escort him? To where?

He's out of the hotel but not on the NFLN and they have his entire schedule and they know this call in is scheduled on 105.3 and they do not tell him to avoid that?

Why did this woman investigator, and I wonder if that's the one that thought Elliott should not be disciplined, call in NFL personnel to escort him out of the hotel? Why did they take custody of him? Was it for his own protection?

Were the other guests getting all rowdy and talking about lynching him? Because I know that was a grave concern of his.

yes, you are confused. MARRIOTT removed Mike, not the NFL. The NFL investigator came to interview the employee and see the video the NEXT DAY. Mike was long gone from that hotel already. The NFL investigator didnt call in other NFL people to remove mike, she called in other people to review the video and probably go over what she had found out at that point so she could get some back up opinions on what actions they should take. Where are you getting that anyone "Took custody," of Irvin? That is certainly NEVER said in any document I have ever seen.