PFT: Miller runs 4.49-second 40-yard dash at Texas A&M Pro Day

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Miller runs 4.49-second 40-yard dash at Texas A&M Pro Day
Posted by Michael David Smith on March 9, 2011, 11:45 AM EST

Getty ImagesTexas A&M’s Von Miller was the second-fastest linebacker at the NFL Scouting Combine, running a 4.53-second 40-yard dash in Indianapolis.

At today’s Texas A&M Pro Day, he ran even faster.

Charean Williams reports that Miller ran a 4.49 today, which matches Martez Wilson of Illinois for the fastest time for any linebacker at the Combine.
 
I don't know what it is, I'm just not sold on Von Miller. I think he has big time bust potential. I think to many people are wow'ed but how physically gifted he is.

He definitely has the physical gifts to play in the NFL, but it takes a lot more than that to be successful.

If he does have what it takes, he will be a damn good player, but...

I think he and Cam Newton have the biggest bust potential in this draft. (weighted by how high they are drafted of course)
 
nyc;3870588 said:
I don't know what it is, I'm just not sold on Von Miller. I think he has big time bust potential. I think to many people are wow'ed but how physically gifted he is.

He definitely has the physical gifts to play in the NFL, but it takes a lot more than that to be successful.

If he does have what it takes, he will be a damn good player, but...

I think he and Cam Newton have the biggest bust potential in this draft. (weighted by how high they are drafted of course)

Same here... I like his athletic ability, but I can't get past the Quentin Coryatt factor...
 
whats the purpose of how fast a LB can run a 40. How many times do you see a LB starting in a sprinter stance and run for 40 yards untouched.

40 times are only good for CBs,WRs,RBs, and safeties.
 
trickblue;3870611 said:
Same here... I like his athletic ability, but I can't get past the Quentin Coryatt factor...

Coryatt would have been a star if not for injuries. He still owns the hardest collegiate hit I have ever seen. Just literally broke that poor player.

Miller is just a tad small.

He is more Mike Mamula than Coryatt, which isn't to say he'll be that type bust but merely that his size doesn't lend itself immediately to a position. He is built like a 4-3 LB whose best asset is his pass rush. He isn't an overly instinctive player and didn't really dominate in college coming off the edge except as a pass rusher or specialist.

All that said he's just a bit smaller than Ware. I don't see the same frame for him that Ware had which is what would concern me about drafting him as a 3-4 OLB.
 
trickblue;3870611 said:
Same here... I like his athletic ability, but I can't get past the Quentin Coryatt factor...


If you have a creative defensive coach (which we do) I think I would take a chance on him.

That speed could definetely come in handy against the pass.
 
Not a fan of Miller. One move man. Of course, he can always learn more but I don't use a top 10 pick on him
 
I think Miller will be just fine, but he's going to have to keep working hard.
 
TheCount;3870733 said:
I think Miller will be just fine, but he's going to have to keep working hard.

I think that is what some people are worried about.
 
nyc;3870769 said:
I think that is what some people are worried about.

Why's that? As far as I know, he's a hard worker. He's just another one of those quiet guys, kinda like Ware is never going to be a vocal leader on the field.
 
Von Miller is known to be an extremely hard worker so whoever questions his work ethic just doesnt know what they are talking about.

And to say some are getting too high on Von because of the ahtlete he is, WRONG! We are high on him because his athletic ability actually support the game film. Not like Tyron SMith who's game film is unimpressive and his entire house of cards rests on his ahtletic ability
 
TheCount;3870822 said:
Why's that? As far as I know, he's a hard worker. He's just another one of those quiet guys, kinda like Ware is never going to be a vocal leader on the field.

There were criticism of him giving up on plays if A. he is stonewalled, or B. there are other tacklers in the vicinity. (very Mike Jenkins) Now, I can't say that I've seen it happen, but then again I wasn't actively watching all of A&M's games.

Though even still, at 6'2 240lbs, he is tiny. Being only 6'2, where is he going to put the extra 25lbs and still maintain that same agility. If he gets drafted by a 4-3 team, he will need at least 35lbs+

Some people say he should play ILB. I'm not sure. I think he could, but he needs to get stronger and shedding blocks. In Rob's defense, he would be an interesting player for sure. He could play ILB and OLB and switch between players to confuse a defense. With his ability to turn the corner, a defense MUST know where he is at all times.
 
Jaxonsdaddd;3870865 said:
Von Miller is known to be an extremely hard worker so whoever questions his work ethic just doesnt know what they are talking about.

And to say some are getting too high on Von because of the ahtlete he is, WRONG! We are high on him because his athletic ability actually support the game film. Not like Tyron SMith who's game film is unimpressive and his entire house of cards rests on his ahtletic ability

Aggie fans are not allowed to comment here. ;)
 
nyc;3870588 said:
I don't know what it is, I'm just not sold on Von Miller. I think he has big time bust potential. I think to many people are wow'ed but how physically gifted he is.

He definitely has the physical gifts to play in the NFL, but it takes a lot more than that to be successful.

If he does have what it takes, he will be a damn good player, but...

I think he and Cam Newton have the biggest bust potential in this draft. (weighted by how high they are drafted of course)

Why? You have only said he has alot of physical ability. Have you watched him on film? just curious why you get feeling he has high bust potential. He is a guy who wants to a Dallas Cowboy who possess dynamic pash rushing ability on a defense that will be very aggressive in going after the QB. I have Miller only behind Quinn as the best at getting to QB.
 
jterrell;3870656 said:
Coryatt would have been a star if not for injuries. He still owns the hardest collegiate hit I have ever seen. Just literally broke that poor player.

Miller is just a tad small.

He is more Mike Mamula than Coryatt, which isn't to say he'll be that type bust but merely that his size doesn't lend itself immediately to a position. He is built like a 4-3 LB whose best asset is his pass rush. He isn't an overly instinctive player and didn't really dominate in college coming off the edge except as a pass rusher or specialist.

All that said he's just a bit smaller than Ware. I don't see the same frame for him that Ware had which is what would concern me about drafting him as a 3-4 OLB.

I agree that was the most bone-jarring hit I have ever seen at the collegiate level...

I also think he may have a durability issue, but when he's healthy he can be dominating.

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I think it is just more the fact that he is an Aggie, so it's easy to jump to the comparison as they were both standouts at A&M...

CATCH17;3870674 said:
If you have a creative defensive coach (which we do) I think I would take a chance on him.

That speed could definetely come in handy against the pass.

He has always been intriguing to me. I wouldn't necessarily be disappointed with that pick, but I would definitely be a little anxious...
 
nyc;3870873 said:
There were criticism of him giving up on plays if A. he is stonewalled, or B. there are other tacklers in the vicinity. (very Mike Jenkins) Now, I can't say that I've seen it happen, but then again I wasn't actively watching all of A&M's games.

Though even still, at 6'2 240lbs, he is tiny. Being only 6'2, where is he going to put the extra 25lbs and still maintain that same agility. If he gets drafted by a 4-3 team, he will need at least 35lbs+

Some people say he should play ILB. I'm not sure. I think he could, but he needs to get stronger and shedding blocks. In Rob's defense, he would be an interesting player for sure. He could play ILB and OLB and switch between players to confuse a defense. With his ability to turn the corner, a defense MUST know where he is at all times.

Well first off all, it's 6'2.5 and 246, at least give him his half inch if you're going to steal 6 lbs. :laugh2:

Why would he need 25 extra lbs? That's doesn't even make any sense, and if he gets drafted by a 4-3 team, he's going to play LB, not DE.

For Miller what it really boils down to is the scheme and his continued work ethic, his size won't be the reason he fails, if he does in fact fail.
 
If Von Miller played with the physicality of say, Jerome Harrison, I would say this guy is a no-brainer. Problem is he simply doesn't play that way. Not saying he's Bobby Carpenter soft, but I would certainly say he doesn't play with a lot of power. His main go-to move is the speed rush. Now he may have gotten results with that in the Big-12, but that one move alone isn't gonna hack it against NFL caliber OTs. Also, he is athletically gifted, but let's not get it twisted, this ain't the first 240 lb I've seen run a 4.5.
 
realtick;3871078 said:
If Von Miller played with the physicality of say, Jerome Harrison, I would say this guy is a no-brainer. Problem is he simply doesn't play that way. Not saying he's Bobby Carpenter soft, but I would certainly say he doesn't play with a lot of power. His main go-to move is the speed rush. Now he may have gotten results with that in the Big-12, but that one move alone isn't gonna hack it against NFL caliber OTs. Also, he is athletically gifted, but let's not get it twisted, this ain't the first 240 lb I've seen run a 4.5.

Jerome Harrison isn't much of a pass rusher. :laugh2:
 
TheCount;3871121 said:
Jerome Harrison isn't much of a pass rusher. :laugh2:
My bad...James Harrison :). You have to admit, "Jerome" is a much more fitting name for him though.
 
Jaxonsdaddd;3870865 said:
Von Miller is known to be an extremely hard worker so whoever questions his work ethic just doesnt know what they are talking about.

And to say some are getting too high on Von because of the ahtlete he is, WRONG! We are high on him because his athletic ability actually support the game film. Not like Tyron SMith who's game film is unimpressive and his entire house of cards rests on his ahtletic ability

I completely agree. They have their pets and are just making up stuff, literally, finding reasons (made up mostly) to not like the guy. Mamula? Really? Mamula was no Butkus award winner. And Miller may not be a raving lunatic on the field but he was most definitely a leader on his teams. The guy has a great work ethic, enthusiasm & character. Shame his arms aren't gorilla like or doesn't look like Tarzan (and sometimes plays like Jane).

The fact that Miller has proven it on the field, on the tests, and now he's proven his naysayers wrong by still remaining lightning fast even at 246, people are resorting to out an out lies.
 

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