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  1. Idgit

    Idgit Fattening up Moderator

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    I actually do stand for the anthem in my family room sometimes. Or did. I used to do it with my kids, for fun, and to teach them to behave when it was going on. But not all the time. Most of the time I'm just sitting there or forwarding through the buffer like the rest of us.

    My point isn't so much the respect for the anthem (though I don't like the intentional disrespect of it). I just don't like all of this nonsense getting attached to the start of a football game.
  2. theebs

    theebs Believe!!!!

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    This woman is my favorite so far.
    How many trump supporters does it take to light some fabric on fire? Aww the hell with it heil trump.

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  3. 65fastback2plus2

    65fastback2plus2 Well-Known Member

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    Ya, I can see it being annoying.

    Maybe it's becoming generational.

    I'm 31. I don't mind politics being anywhere and everywhere. In fact, I read and try to talk to others about it daily because of it's major impact on all our lives. And I think ignoring it makes things worse.

    Lots of people my age act somewhat the same. It's the majority of Bernie Sanders supporters: millennials.

    (Not a Bernie supporter at all as an aside lol)
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  4. Idgit

    Idgit Fattening up Moderator

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    I'm not all that much older, but I've never liked any sort of grandstanding for causes from entertainers. If I'm at a concert, it's because I like the music, not because I want to hear your take on political economy. Because the intersection of 'smart' and 'entertainer' is not all that large.

    If I'm here to watch football, it's because you're a good football player, not because I'm hoping to get some special insight from you on social justice issues. Because the intersection of 'football player' and 'socially informed' is even smaller.

    More than anything, I don't like that it was setup for an irresponsible president to take the football and run with it and have the rest of us follow suit for the next however many weeks. At that exact point, it stopped being about anything meaningful and became an exercise in dividing people based off of who they voted for. It's harmful, and not helpful. And to see that idiocy spilling over onto CZ, even, drives me nuts.
  5. RJ_MacReady

    RJ_MacReady mcompact

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    That's actually troubling to hear. If you aren't somewhat numbed to politics by the age of 31 then something might be cross-wired. Politics is nothing more than propaganda that wholesales in telling you how to think, feel, talk, act and vote. Some people don't see through it, though, as if their caught in the matrix, but it should be rather normal for a person to say "Yeah, yeah, yeah...I get it...you're trying to convince me of XYZ. Enough already!"
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  6. stilltheguru88

    stilltheguru88 Well-Known Member

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    I'm much more qualified to speak on this than you could ever be. Why would I ever want respect from someone like you? Please
  7. 65fastback2plus2

    65fastback2plus2 Well-Known Member

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    Not even close. You're thinking of the "think like me.or I'll yell at you" crowd. I'm more intent on thoughts and ideas and principles.
  8. 65fastback2plus2

    65fastback2plus2 Well-Known Member

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    The last part I'll give ya for sure.

    The first part...I tend to think (and not because I'm more holier than anyone just to get that out there) of people as the individuals that they are, and not for any X talent, etc.

    People often ask if I love football so much why I dont follow any college team. My answer every time is "In 2 or so years, they players are gone, and I cant get invested in them". I watch tony romo instagram videos with his kids to understand tony as a person. I read stories of stuff tony did off the field to understand him as a person. I spent time reading many articles and watching several videos to understand Kaepernick, Sherman, etc. as person. I love watching videos of Charles Barkley talking about topics other than basketball to understand him as a person. I just...find people interesting, and in doing so, I want to know their likes/dislikes/hobbies/drivers/drainers, etc. I love football, but its not just about football to me...its about people.
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  9. Philmonroe

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    I've been off the anthem but it don't have anything to do with protest. I just want to see the game.

    Man stop that that guy isn't no 60 yrs old. Nobody is forcing them to watch the pregame stuff though so I don't see how people,can be tired of easily avoidable stuff. I've been avoiding the anthem for years and it hasn't nothing to do with a protest.

    This is not true IMO because if that was the case they wouldn't sell nothing and everybody would be doing something related to the anthem. If you're not seated and around the atrium nobody is hand over the heart they are doing whatever outside.
  10. Idgit

    Idgit Fattening up Moderator

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    The rest of us have to judge based on your posting history. We don't have the benefit of your rich imagination and your interpretation of your qualifications to go on.
  11. Idgit

    Idgit Fattening up Moderator

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    That I can understand. Barkley and Richard Sherman are both great. There are always exceptions.

    And an interview or a press conference even, where the topics are wide ranging, is complelty different from a league function or the preamble to a game. Those are settings where that kind of personal expression is appropriate.
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  12. 65fastback2plus2

    65fastback2plus2 Well-Known Member

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    Oh I fully agree everyone jumping on the bandwagon ruined it. But the first couple sits/knees from Colin...go back and watch or rewatch his interviews from then. You can tell he intends well.
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  13. haleyrules

    haleyrules Benched

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    If any human ever listened to Ray Charles sing America the Beautiful...would never take a knee or disrespect anybody ever again. Just Listen and try to understand and forgive...that's what that is really about.
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  14. stilltheguru88

    stilltheguru88 Well-Known Member

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    Your a racists favorite, congrats. Keep picking and choosing which posts to respond to. In real life you can't pick and choose, and YOUR qualifications (or lack thereof) will be on display. I highly doubt you'd ever open your mouth to a black person with the garbage you type though.
  15. Nightman

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    Or Whitney's version of the Anthem..... before she met Bobby

    it was Jose Feliciano that started all this hogwash with damned acoustic guitared version of the song in the late 60's...... white people were tripping way back then too........ this isn't new........lol
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  16. JoeKing

    JoeKing Diehard Zone Supporter

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    Why do you feel the need to badmouth a good dude like @Idgit ? That just don't seem right. :huh:
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  17. FuzzyLumpkins

    FuzzyLumpkins The Boognish

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    How so?

    Trump restarted the civil asset forfeiture.


    Trump restarted private prisons.


    Trump restarted militarizing the police.


    And of course he said all NFL players who were protesting police violence should be fired.

    Give the police tanks and assault weapons, make for profit prisons, and allow police to steal assets without charges much less a trial. That is all for a police state.
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  18. stilltheguru88

    stilltheguru88 Well-Known Member

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    What makes him a good dude? He felt the need to respond to Rodgers tweet but let's the racists run rampant on here and never challenges them. Transparent as hell.
  19. PA Cowboy Fan

    PA Cowboy Fan Well-Known Member

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    When they run out of things to say they always bring up the racist card.
  20. yimyammer

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