PFT-- Parcells decision coming tommorrow?

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bbgun;1321325 said:
Yes, Jerry is definitely the main culprit amidst the misery. The NFL should institute a rule that teams can't be passed down through the family. Once Jerry dies, the Cowboys should be auctioned off to the highest bidder. I don't want to be dealing with Stephen Jones or his kids in 25 years.

How socialist of you ..... :starspin
 
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Parcells will be back for one more year unfortunately, let's just get it over with, another 8-8 or 9-7 season filled with "what if's..":rolleyes:
 

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bbgun;1321325 said:
Yes, Jerry is definitely the main culprit amidst the misery. The NFL should institute a rule that teams can't be passed down through the family. Once Jerry dies, the Cowboys should be auctioned off to the highest bidder. I don't want to be dealing with Stephen Jones or his kids in 25 years.

No...I can not agree with that.

I actually think Stephen might turn out to be much better. I would not be shocked if Stephen would hire a GM.

Can't always judge the son by the father.

I just have a feeling that Stephen is a little more open minded compared to his pops.
 

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bbgun;1321305 said:
You think I'm down on them for the hell of it? Like I don't have ample justification? In terms of the last decade or so, what is there to be positive about? In terms of the coaching fiasco presently staring us in the face, what is there to be positive about? I anxiously await Jerry's ingenious, "ulterior plan."

You're supposed to be Positive that we haven't won a Division after leading by 2 games with 4 to play or a playoff game in 4 years...from a Hall of Fame coach being payed 5 mill a year.

But he's better than Campo!
 

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ConcordCowboy;1321333 said:
You're supposed to be Positive that we haven't won a Division after leading by 2 games with 4 to play or a playoff game in 4 years...from a Hall of Fame coach being payed 5 mill a year.

But he's better than Campo!

Shhh...just because the buckeyes got killed...does not mean you have to get upset about a joke I had with BBgun.

Just keep your foul mood up there in Ohio.;)
 

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bbgun;1321325 said:
Yes, Jerry is definitely the main culprit amidst the misery. The NFL should institute a rule that teams can't be passed down through the family. Once Jerry dies, the Cowboys should be auctioned off to the highest bidder. I don't want to be dealing with Stephen Jones or his kids in 25 years.

from 1996-2002, yes Jerry is the main culprit...and one could add 94 & 95, except for the fact that were still the best team in football and won a super bowl, so that isnt misery

but from 2003 to the present, the only person to blame for misery and mediocrity is Mr Parcells...he's had absolute total control of the franchise...he has made the call on every draft pick and free agent we've signed...he's hired or retained every coach we've had...he put in the offense and defense he wanted...

one person to blame, and one person only...Parcells

David
 

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BrAinPaiNt;1321334 said:
Shhh...just because the buckeyes got killed...does not mean you have to get upset about a joke I had with BBgun.

Just keep your foul mood up there in Ohio.;)

I wasn't talking to you...If I was you would know it.
 

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dbair1967;1321342 said:
from 1996-2002, yes Jerry is the main culprit...and one could add 94 & 95, except for the fact that were still the best team in football and won a super bowl, so that isnt misery

but from 2003 to the present, the only person to blame for misery and mediocrity is Mr Parcells...he's had absolute total control of the franchise...he has made the call on every draft pick and free agent we've signed...he's hired or retained every coach we've had...he put in the offense and defense he wanted...

one person to blame, and one person only...Parcells

David

Really?

So you think Bill really wanted QC and Hutch to stay when he came here?
So you think Bill was not swayed by Jerry in those two players or keeping Zimmer when he first came here.
Do you you think bill really wanted TO and it was not just a Jerry move?

Do you not recall Jerry and Bill at multiple times saying that Jerry had final say?

Bill can be blamed for the majority of things, but he has not had total control of this team. Jerry has...if jerry wants someone bad enough he will get them even if it is not to bills liking.

Sorry...this is jerrys team no matter how much control he gave bill.
 

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ConcordCowboy;1321345 said:
I wasn't talking to you...If I was you would know it.

Really makes no difference because I was talking to you...and you did know it.:laugh2:
 

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BrAinPaiNt;1321347 said:
Really?

So you think Bill really wanted QC and Hutch to stay when he came here?
So you think Bill was not swayed by Jerry in those two players or keeping Zimmer when he first came here.
Do you you think bill really wanted TO and it was not just a Jerry move?

Do you not recall Jerry and Bill at multiple times saying that Jerry had final say?

Bill can be blamed for the majority of things, but he has not had total control of this team. Jerry has...if jerry wants someone bad enough he will get them even if it is not to bills liking.

Sorry...this is jerrys team no matter how much control he gave bill.

I guess we would have to agree to disagree, but my belief is he did make every call with regards to our team...every single one of them...signing TO might have been Jerruh's idea, but both Jerry and Stephen were on record saying they talked to Bill numerous times, including the day he was signed and gave Bill a chance to nix the deal...he didnt

he got rid of Carter after one yr...he never gave Hutchinson the time of day and got rid of him too...how can you say Bill didnt have say so in that? He admitted Jerry put the sell job on him in the beginning with Zimmer, but he could have said no and could have run off Zimmer at any point afterward...he ran off other coaches didnt he?

Bill's done it all...if he didnt have total control, he'd have never agreed to coach here in the first place

David
 

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dbair1967;1321342 said:
from 1996-2002, yes Jerry is the main culprit...and one could add 94 & 95, except for the fact that were still the best team in football and won a super bowl, so that isnt misery

but from 2003 to the present, the only person to blame for misery and mediocrity is Mr Parcells...he's had absolute total control of the franchise...he has made the call on every draft pick and free agent we've signed...he's hired or retained every coach we've had...he put in the offense and defense he wanted...

one person to blame, and one person only...Parcells

David

Well, it'll definitely be Jerry's fault if Bill is coach in 2007. He just doesn't want to flush six million bucks down the drain. In terms of personnel, no way Bill implored Jerry to sign TO. That was a Jerry move all the way.
 

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dbair1967;1321352 said:
I guess we would have to agree to disagree, but my belief is he did make every call with regards to our team...every single one of them...signing TO might have been Jerruh's idea, but both Jerry and Stephen were on record saying they talked to Bill numerous times, including the day he was signed and gave Bill a chance to nix the deal...he didnt

he got rid of Carter after one yr...he never gave Hutchinson the time of day and got rid of him too...how can you say Bill didnt have say so in that? He admitted Jerry put the sell job on him in the beginning with Zimmer, but he could have said no and could have run off Zimmer at any point afterward...he ran off other coaches didnt he?

Bill's done it all...if he didnt have total control, he'd have never agreed to coach here in the first place

David

But you admitted the QC and Hutch thing.

If he had total control he would have cut them in camp that first year or told Jerry he would not coach the team unless they brought in a vet QB.
If I recall correctly I think it was alluded to that jerry did do a bit of a sell job on QC and Hutch because he wanted them to be groomed.

You admit he let jerry do a sell job on Zimmer.

Bill may have went along with TO but once again I say that Bill and Jerry have been on record multiple times saying that Jerry has final say. So if Bill said no and Jerry said yes...it falls to jerry..something that has been said multiple times and it would seem something that was discussed prior to bill being hired because I think he even said that in his first PC with the team.

Jerry no matter what still has final say on who comes in because he is the man that signs the checks.

He has given bill more control than anyone since Jimmy. But this is Jerry's team plain and simple and nothing gets done without his approval.
 

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daynje;1321225 said:
I sure hope we do find out one way or the other so we can move on to something else to talk about.

Careful what you hope for.

If Parcells leaves, then there would be alot to discuss about the next coach. However, if he stays, then the next question will be: Does TO stay or go? Not like that has happened. :p:
 

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bbgun;1321232 said:
Either way we're screwed. We're either stuck with an underwhelming lame duck of a coach who's hemorrhaging assistants, or we have to scramble for a new head coach a week before the Senior Bowl. Thanks for nothing, Bill.
Couldnt have said it better myself. BUT PLEASE JUST GET OUT FATTY!!!!
 

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bigbadroy;1321375 said:
everyone knows he's coming back. he just needs to admit it already

He probably is, but just don't expect any hope or optimism. And don't expect players to jump through hoops or listen to his tirades and threats anymore. He's on borrowed time, and they know it.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;1321323 said:
Not getting into a religious debate...but I just don't think he has time to worry about whether bill stays or goes...but maybe that is just me.:D

Oh God's got plenty of time...He's got all eternity...Which is enough time to worry about Bill.

Take care of it God...Whisper in Bill's ear that it's time to go.
 

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bigbadroy;1321375 said:
everyone knows he's coming back. he just needs to admit it already

bbgun;1321387 said:
He probably is, but just don't expect any hope or optimism. And don't expect players to jump through hoops or listen to his tirades and threats anymore. He's on borrowed time, and they know it.
:hammer:
 
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