PFT: Reggie Bush loses his Heisman, sort of

MarionBarberThe4th

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Chris in Arizona;3463975 said:
Oh boy.


Again, USC had nothing to do with Reggie getting paid. It wasn't set up through a coach, employee of USC, or booster. It was a recently paroled wannabe sports agent with no ties to the University who wanted to attach himself to the rising superstar that was Reggie Bush.

The problem is with agents getting access to these amateur football players. This isn't just a USC thing as evidenced by the current investigations at North Carolina, South Carolina, and Florida.

The NFL could actually solve this problem with one move. If the NFL put a lifetime ban on any agent found guilty of paying, illegally contacting, attempting to pay, etc. a college football player this problem would go away. It might seem harsh but why should the NFL want to deal with an agent who has cheated and/or broke the law.



Yet if Reggie was out at 1 AM they would know all about it

They didnt recruit this kid and know what his financial status was?

Cmon son.
 

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MarionBarberThe4th;3463992 said:
Yet if Reggie was out at 1 AM they would know all about it

They didnt recruit this kid and know what his financial status was?

Cmon son.


Huh? College football players out at 1 AM. Yeah, that never happens.

Reggie's family wasn't poor. How would they know that his parents were going to do what they did? Remember, Reggie and his family didn't start this improper relationship with the agent until the end of his sophomore season. There was no indication that this was going to happen.

I've yet to see a valid point from you Sir.
 

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Chris in Arizona;3464013 said:
Huh? College football players out at 1 AM. Yeah, that never happens.

Reggie's family wasn't poor. How would they know that his parents were going to do what they did? Remember, Reggie and his family didn't start this improper relationship with the agent until the end of his sophomore season. There was no indication that this was going to happen.

I've yet to see a valid point from you Sir.

Huh? College football players out at 1 AM. Yeah, that never happens.

And if/when he was out they would know exactly where he was and who he was with. Point is they keep tabs


They turned their heads on all this stuff. Claiming innocent. They knew the deal all along. Its just science.
 

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MarionBarberThe4th;3464016 said:
And if/when he was out they would know exactly where he was and who he was with. Point is they keep tabs


They turned their heads on all this stuff. Claiming innocent. They knew the deal all along. Its just science.

How? Many players live off campus after their sophomore seasons? They do room-checks when the team travels but not when they are home in their dorm rooms and definitely not for those living off-campus.

They did turn their heads when they were letting all of the agent slash leeches come to practices and in the locker room. The NCAA pointed that out several times in their documents and USC has taken steps to change that. Last year, I could attend almost every practice. This year I had to call in favors with people I know, get cleared by the University before hand, just to attend the 2 practices I went to.
 

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Chris in Arizona;3463975 said:
Oh boy.

The NFL could actually solve this problem with one move. If the NFL put a lifetime ban on any agent found guilty of paying, illegally contacting, attempting to pay, etc. a college football player this problem would go away. It might seem harsh but why should the NFL want to deal with an agent who has cheated and/or broke the law.

Or if the NCAA would actually pay their players to play -- you know, the very same players that make those institutions like USC worth a lot more than what they are as a university.

What Bush took from an agent is worth a helluva lot less than what probably USC made in sells from Reggie Bush jerseys and their numerous trips to BCS bowl games because of him.
 

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monkey;3463899 said:
I disagree that the college player shouldn't be punished for breaking the rules by doing things they clearly know are wrong (i.e. they put themselves into it). In Bush's case, there isn't a whole lot else they can do, besides take it away.
They should be punished, but not by stripping what they did on the field. Accepting a bribe or whatever and running for all kinds of yards are independent of each other imo (though you could argue for a quality team, etc.).

Punishing kids who are usually 17 when they get these offers is asinine - they know it's wrong and do it anyways because that's the culture we live in, and instant gratification is what many of them thrive on. The only way to stop the actions from happening is to make punishments so crippling to schools, coaches, boosters, and any other adult authority figure that no player will be worth that kind of a risk.
 

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HoleInTheRoof;3463790 said:
Accepting money off the field doesn't diminish what he accomplished on the field.

Just sayin . . .

The NCAA isn't saying that.

What there saying is that his actions made him technically ineligible to play during the said seasons. Which means that all his accomplishments and the teams accomplishments because of him, shouldn't have occurred. f bush was not allowed to play the year he took the money, then he could not have won the Heisman.

This is there "Attempt" at fixing the situation that has gotten to be a huge black eye on USC, the NCAA, Bush, and the NFL
 

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dargonking999;3464116 said:
The NCAA isn't saying that.

What there saying is that his actions made him technically ineligible to play during the said seasons. Which means that all his accomplishments and the teams accomplishments because of him, shouldn't have occurred. f bush was not allowed to play the year he took the money, then he could not have won the Heisman.

This is there "Attempt" at fixing the situation that has gotten to be a huge black eye on USC, the NCAA, Bush, and the NFL

What has it been 4 years after the fact it does not fix a dam thing it is stupid and hollow. Giving it to Vince is stupid as well this does nothing it is all hollow and meaningless.
 
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