PFT: Stallworth Suspended Indefinitely

[aikemirv]

you can't make decisions on what COULD have happened. Gee, a player got a DUI... he could have committed vehicular manslaughter. Better suspend him indefinitely.

Gee, a player got arrested at a nighclub. Charges were dropped.... but they could have stuck. Suspend him 4 games!

I disagree. While Stallworth showed no regard for human life and hopped in a car and ran somebody over while intoxicated, a person, intoxicated who hops in a car shows the EXACT SAME lack of regard for human life as Stallworth did.

I say that with one caveat in Stallworths case which was he seemed to have time to flash his lights to the guy but did not have time to avoid hitting him. I will never understand that part of the story. That was an amzing part of this case and for that I would never let the guy back in the NFL!

But in regards to a normal case where someone gets killed by a drunk driver versus a drunk driver who killed noone - There is not one bit of difference to me - the only difference is the circumstances!

 

[peplaw06]

I disagree. While Stallworth showed no regard for human life and hopped in a car and ran somebody over while intoxicated, a person, intoxicated who hops in a car shows the EXACT SAME lack of regard for human life as Stallworth did.

I say that with one caveat in Stallworths case which was he seemed to have time to flash his lights to the guy but did not have time to avoid hitting him. I will never understand that part of the story. That was an amzing part of this case and for that I would never let the guy back in the NFL!

But in regards to a normal case where someone gets killed by a drunk driver versus a drunk driver who killed noone - There is not one bit of difference to me - the only difference is the circumstances!

Soooooooo... you're saaaaying there's a difference?

 

[bysbox1]

I say that with one caveat in Stallworths case which was he seemed to have time to flash his lights to the guy but did not have time to avoid hitting him. I will never understand that part of the story. That was an amzing part of this case and for that I would never let the guy back in the NFL!

We really do not have enough details to explain why he did not avoid hitting him. It was a 45 mph highway, and maybe there was traffic in the other lane where he could not change langes. Maybe there was no shoulder lane, or there was a concrete divider. And 45mph is moving pretty fast, so it does not give you much time to react even if you do honk the horn and flash your lights.

I don't think Stallworth will be banned from the NFL for life because he has shown remorse, fully cooperated and had no previous arrest record. But the details of the case will determine the severity of the final punishment with Goodell . . . .

 

[TellerMorrow34]

apparently you are fine with doing drugs.

I'm not but I don't put someone killing themselves as being in the same catagory of bad as them killing someone else.

I don't care if Dante got drunk and drove his car into a tree and killed himself. That's on him. If drunk drivers only killed themselves when driving that would be one thing. But they kill others when they're driving drunk.

Now was Matt Jones forcing coke up the nose of innocent people simply because he is into drugs? If so then you're absolutely right I'm pissed off that he got away without a suspension. But to my knowledge he was using and selling it to other drug users. He can't make anyone buy coke from him to use. They have to be willing. A person getting hit by a drunk driver isnt making any sort of decision in the outcome of that situation. The drunk driver, by driving while drunk, makes the decision for everyone.

Two completely, totally, different cases and on different ends of the spectrum for me.

I do think, however, that Jones should be suspended because he broke the law like a moron but I don't think his suspension should be anywhere near whatever they wind up giving to Dante.

so does the man who took a candy bar deserve the same punishment as the man who stabbed a clerk?

In the minds of some I suppose it does.

It's fairly simple. When you do drugs - it alters your mind and your way of thinking. Next thing you know, you rationalize getting behind the wheel because you aren't thinking straight. Then.....nothing good comes of it. THAT'S why. Pretty simple.

Was he driving while under the influence of coke? I wasn't aware of that. If so then that's certainly something to look into and punish him for accordingly, without a doubt.

We really do not have enough details to explain why he did not avoid hitting him. It was a 45 mph highway, and maybe there was traffic in the other lane where he could not change langes. Maybe there was no shoulder lane, or there was a concrete divider. And 45mph is moving pretty fast, so it does not give you much time to react even if you do honk the horn and flash your lights.

I don't think Stallworth will be banned from the NFL for life because he has shown remorse, fully cooperated and had no previous arrest record. But the details of the case will determine the severity of the final punishment with Goodell . . . .

I could have swore that I read he was speeding, as well as being drunk, and there simply is no defense of what he did. I don't care if he flashed his lights, swerved, scratched his balls, whatever. He hit the man because he was speeding, while driving drunk, and I don't feel a lick of sympathy for him when it comes to any punishment he recieves from the justice system or the NFL.


I really hope Goodell slams the hammer down on Plax, Dante, and Vick and makes a prime example out of these three players. This is a perfect time for him to really lay it down here and show the league that breaking the law, doing really stupid stuff, and being morons all the time will simply not be tolerated.

 

[casmith07]

so does the man who took a candy bar deserve the same punishment as the man who stabbed a clerk?

no, but he still deserves SOME punishment.

 

[casmith07]

It's fairly simple. When you do drugs - it alters your mind and your way of thinking. Next thing you know, you rationalize getting behind the wheel because you aren't thinking straight. Then.....nothing good comes of it. THAT'S why. Pretty simple.

Thank you, Sarge!