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TEAMS LEERY OF USC PLAYERS?

Posted by Mike Florio on April 24, 2008, 10:08 p.m.

There’s a growing sense in some league circles that incoming players from the University of Southern California merit extra scrutiny during the endless buildup to the draft.

The concern is that too many of the players who emerge from the Trojan program love the SoCal lifestyle more than they love football.
Though it’s always dangerous to generalize (but what the hell, we’ll do it anyway), there have been a surprising number of busts to emerge from Pete Carroll’s no-pay (by the school) paradise.

In 2003, the Trojans sent a trio of solid players into the league: Carson Palmer, Troy Polamalu, and Justin Fargas. Since then, however, the only guy who has proven to be a consistent high-end talent is linebacker Lofa Tatupu. The growing parade of busts includes Keary Colbert, Shaun Cody, Mike Patterson, Mike Williams, Darnell Bing, Dominique Byrd, Frostee Rucker, Winston Justice, Reggie Bush (relative to his draft status and hype), and Dwayne Jarrett.

UPDATE: Okay, maybe Patterson isn’t a full-blown bust. We were influenced by his pot charge.

As to Matt Leinart and LenDale White, the jury is still out, but might be coming back soon. There already are signs that football isn’t their top priority. Otherwise, White wouldn’t go blowfish in the offseason and Leinart would be exuding the demeanor of a guy who intends to be a starting NFL quarterback for a long time.

Every player is different, but it could be that the same thing that attracts them to play in L.A. is the same thing that makes them more attracted to the perks of being a pro athlete than to doing whatever is necessary to be the best of the best in their profession.
 

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Steve Smith showed to be decent for the Giants last year....injuries slowed him down more than any defense did.

BTW....they forgot Jacob Rogers...
 

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Conversely, Texas Longhorns tend to have solid, if not great careers for the most part over the last decade. Yes, there have been some busts.....but at the same time, some surprises as well (Priest Holmes).

Give me a Longhorn over a Trojan anyway....Texas Football > California Football
 
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Id take Taylor Mays or Patrick Turner....

Joe Mcknight will be another stud this year or next....

Brain Cushing and Melaluga (sp) can play too.....
 

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I extend this bias to the Pac-10 in general.

Take away the Samoans and I just do not see the NFL caliber toughness in a bunch of surfer dudes.

But even I admit it is a bias:)

Not a lot of soft, surfer dudes in Compton, just ask Larry Allen.
 

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A lot of this has to do with the level of competition in the Pac-10. Other than USC, these schools have been stuggling. The conference is improving, but the level of competition is much better from top to bottom in conferences like the Big 12 and SEC.
 

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jterrell;2049729 said:
I extend this bias to the Pac-10 in general.

Take away the Samoans and I just do not see the NFL caliber toughness in a bunch of surfer dudes.

But even I admit it is a bias:)

Not a lot of soft, surfer dudes in Compton, just ask Larry Allen.
I'd bet money I could create a starting 22 from the Pac 10 drafted all over several years and not focus on 1st rounds only and it would be a team you could respect.

I can't stand Notre Dame, but even I admit when a player from there is a good player. Bias is never wise.
 

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I think a lot of NFL teams become enamored with USC players as much as the fans do.

They recruit the best and just look better than everyone they play against.

I dont think its about trying to live some "so cal lifestyle".

To me thats a bunch of BS.

Either you can play or you cant. If you think the guy can play and he cant dont blame it on USC blame it on yourself.
 

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Hostile;2049805 said:
I'd bet money I could create a starting 22 from the Pac 10 drafted all over several years and not focus on 1st rounds only and it would be a team you could respect.

I can't stand Notre Dame, but even I admit when a player from there is a good player. Bias is never wise.


I am the same way with the schools that I hate.

If I see a player that just jumps off the screen and I believe he will be a good fit in Dallas I will not be biased about the guy.

I wont show favoritism either. Just an honest opinion of what I think about the player.

I hate the Oklahoma Sooners with a passion. I wont cry if we draft one of their talented players in any year or any time if I think he can play at the NFL level.
 

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CATCH17;2049813 said:
I think a lot of NFL teams become enamored with USC players as much as the fans do.

They recruit the best and just look better than everyone they play against.

I dont think its about trying to live some "so cal lifestyle".

To me thats a bunch of BS.

Either you can play or you cant. If you think the guy can play and he cant dont blame it on USC blame it on yourself.

I agree. I would never avoid a player based on the school he went to. Either he grades out high or not.
 

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USC has had a lot of players with big reps come up small in the NFL. A lot of hype comes their way because of the team record and being from LA. And the NFL is a whole lot tougher then going to USC and playing there. You have to be more dedicated and work harder. USC has been so deep there that a lot of top players did not have to play on special teams and got a lot of rest against weak teams. In the NFL you play ST a lot and play alot of the game no matter who it is. It is certainly possible that they are soft.
 
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Hostile;2049805 said:
I'd bet money I could create a starting 22 from the Pac 10 drafted all over several years and not focus on 1st rounds only and it would be a team you could respect.

I can't stand Notre Dame, but even I admit when a player from there is a good player. Bias is never wise.




Cheer Cheer for Ol' Notre dame
Wake up the echoes, cheering her name
Send the volleys cheer on hgih
Shake out the thunder from the sky

What go the odds be great or small
Ol Notre Dame will win overall
While her loyal sons are marching
Onward to victory..................


Jimmy will Rebound and Touchdown Jesus will shine in South bend
 

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McCordsville Cowboy;2049953 said:
Cheer Cheer for Ol' Notre dame
Wake up the echoes, cheering her name
Send the volleys cheer on hgih
Shake out the thunder from the sky

What go the odds be great or small
Ol Notre Dame will win overall
While her loyal sons are marching
Onward to victory..................


Jimmy will Rebound and Touchdown Jesus will shine in South bend

burmafrd;2049958 said:
Sing it loud sing it long!!!
All you've got are echoes.
 

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And the Echoes will be coming back this season!

I predict 8-4 and next year will be THE year!
 

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I bet Keith Rivers and Sedrick Ellis become Solid Players, so I call this Article B.S..
 

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SC is a great program, but they are without question the most over-hyped too. The press just loves them.
 

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AmishCowboy;2050041 said:
I bet Keith Rivers and Sedrick Ellis become Solid Players, so I call this Article B.S..

Maybe so, but that's a pretty high bust rate shown in the article. Plus, it only said that players are being looked at more closely, not that specific ones would not be good.
 

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burmafrd;2050040 said:
And the Echoes will be coming back this season!

I predict 8-4 and next year will be THE year!
Yeah I think some guy is yelling 4-8, 4-8, 4-8 and you'r hearing 8-4, 8-4, 8-4.
 
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