Philly Defensive Rotation

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I listened to the Bledsoe phone interview this morning and one thing stuck out to me. He kept talking about how Philly rotates their linemen quite often. I can't remember if it was against Houston or SF, but at one point they rotated the entire starting defensive line out of the game.

Does it make sense to go with a no-huddle to ensure that they have to keep the same line out on the field? I mean, let's say that they rotate Howard or Cole out of the game, do we go with no-huddle so they have to watch from the sideline? Would it mess with their blitz packages?
 

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That would be a good dea, but the key to that philosophy is sustaining drives. If Philly's D is successful on 1st and 2nd down then it's wash. One thing also to remember is that Philly's "second team" line has been just as successful as the first. So it's not a matter of of keeping the "sucky" group on the field. They all have played pretty solid.

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Their second line is NOT as good as the first- there is a fair amount of drop off.
 

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skinsscalper;1071144 said:
That would be a good dea, but the key to that philosophy is sustaining drives. If Philly's D is successful on 1st and 2nd down then it's wash. One thing also to remember is that Philly's "second team" line has been just as successful as the first. So it's not a matter of of keeping the "sucky" group on the field. They all have played pretty solid.

SS

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skinsscalper;1071144 said:
That would be a good dea, but the key to that philosophy is sustaining drives. If Philly's D is successful on 1st and 2nd down then it's wash. One thing also to remember is that Philly's "second team" line has been just as successful as the first. So it's not a matter of of keeping the "sucky" group on the field. They all have played pretty solid.

SS

Part of the idea of no-huddle is that they cannot rotate, no matter which line is out there, and they get winded.

Having said that, me doubts BP uses the no-huddle. I would love to eat my words...but...
 

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If you watched some of the Buffalo games in 04 Bledsoe had some good success in the no huddle, give it a shot i say
 

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The rotation is overhyped. the eagles have been doing that for the past couple years.

There was a time when they had a tremendous front line. If your front line is that great why rotate. But they have some good players, some older players that should welcome the break and some real inexperienced guys that right now are only effective as situational players. Thus the rotation helps them put together a solid group effort.

But its more like a situation where the rotation is done to make things easier on their defensive unit, not a situation where they have such incredible depth that their dreaded rotation gives them a supreme advantage over other teams.

J johnson does not have the defensive personel that he has enjoyed in the past, so he does what he can to get the most out of his players. but the philly media wants to build it into something more than it is.
 

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dallasfaniac;1071129 said:
I listened to the Bledsoe phone interview this morning and one thing stuck out to me. He kept talking about how Philly rotates their linemen quite often. I can't remember if it was against Houston or SF, but at one point they rotated the entire starting defensive line out of the game.

Does it make sense to go with a no-huddle to ensure that they have to keep the same line out on the field? I mean, let's say that they rotate Howard or Cole out of the game, do we go with no-huddle so they have to watch from the sideline? Would it mess with their blitz packages?


That's what Philly will be doing to us.
 

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burmafrd;1071146 said:
Their second line is NOT as good as the first- there is a fair amount of drop off.


I don't think anyone would expect it to be. :confused:
 

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I like the idea of the no huddle.
I have noticed that the Eagles will not blitz as much until you get past the 50 yard line.
A no huddle after we get into Eagles territory would be a good move in my opinion.
 

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I expect Philly was do their best to keep constant pressure on Bledsoe, as opposed to dropping more men back into coverage. They know the secondary has been banged up and can't afford to give Bledsoe time to scan the field. The goal should be to keep Bledsoe limited to 3 step drops and to force Bledsoe to get rid of the ball quickly.
 

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MichaelWinicki;1071177 said:
That's what Philly will be doing to us.

You are correct. Philly used the hurry-up offense is some of their games this year to keep defenses from substituting. They will do the same again this weekend.

Dallas is actually the team that has used lots of rotations on the d-line. We were rotating like crazy in both the Washington and Tennessee games.
 

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Keep in mind that its more difficult to run the no huddle on the road. You're talking about an ESPECIALLY fired up crowd this week so the noise will be at its peak throughout the game... the noise doesn't make it very easy to communicate like you need to with the no-huddle.
 

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dallas will go 3 and 4 wide alot to keep trotter off the field as much as possible.
 

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Teague31;1071311 said:
dallas will go 3 and 4 wide alot to keep trotter off the field as much as possible.

***? I must have missed your point. I wouldn't even waste a moment worrying about Trotter.
 

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Philly rotated complete defensive line every drive until Javon Kearse went down and there isn't a big dropoff in their productivity (Actually philly with their starting defensiveline gave up touchdowns on the first offensive drive for the first three weeks and the secondary line stopped them everyweek). No huddle will not help because they rotate after a complete drive. Now that Javon is not there, they no longer are doing it. They do replace linemen but it is not complete replacement of all defensive linemen.
 

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***? I must have missed your point. I wouldn't even waste a moment worrying about Trotter.

Really? So his 10 tackle game in Philly last year didn't impress you? He was a big part of why we couldn't run the ball up there.
 

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DLCassidy;1071518 said:
Really? So his 10 tackle game in Philly last year didn't impress you? He was a big part of why we couldn't run the ball up there.

I agree. Trotter is also a guy that the Philly players on defense look to he is the leader of that group. The guy is a very good ball player and has a nose for the ball.
 

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If we want to stop Trotter, install a Krispy Kreme right where the Iggles come out of their lockers. That'll stop him!


"Oooohh.. donuts!"


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