Pickens' penalties in context

[Hawkeye0202]

 

[Pass2Run]

He's made steady improvement every year at least.

 

[Creeper]

It depends on what those penalties are for. False start penalties are annoying but unsportsmanlike conduct are worse.

We pick on Sam Williams for some of the dumb stuff he does but in the scheme of things it is not as frequent as it seems. His penalties stand out because they are usually dumb and at bad moments in the game.

According to the football Database, Pickens had 1 Unsportsmanlike Conduct Penalty, 1 offensive PI, 1 false start and 2 "Other" penalties. That doesn't seen extraordinary to me.

But the issue is not what he does on the field. The issue as I understand it is what he does in the locker room and multiple reports say he is not a good guy in the locker room. At least that was the case in Pittsburgh.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Who cares?

The real question is will he quit and cause drama if things don’t go his way?

History says yes.

 

[nate dizzle]

Who cares?

The real question is will he quit and cause drama if things don’t go his way?

History says yes.

I'm sure he'll be fine with getting 2-3 looks a game while Lamb is getting 10 targets a game from the 1 read QB.

 

[JW82]

If they are down by 20 late in the 4th and he snaps I can live with it. Just don't cost the team 15 in a 1 score game.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

I'm sure he'll be fine with getting 2-3 looks a game while Lamb is getting 10 targets a game from the 1 read QB.

Yes.

I’m sure he’ll have no issues with that.

He’s got the wrong QB with his “always open” mentality. Dak will rarely even try you unless you’re wide open and his 1st read.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

You can’t equivocate penalties by simplifying them to just raw numbers.

A false start is not the same as unsportsmanlike penalties (ie. 15-yard variety).

I’ve posted the breakdown of the specific penalties dating back to 2022. Not going to cobble that data together again but it’s out there.

 

[JohnsKey19]

It's like Randy Gregory, you have to expect a handful of 15 yard penalties throughout the season. You just hope, they aren't game-changing and he is producing at a high level to offset them.

 

[Denim Chicken]

I don't think penalties were necessarily what people are worried about. I think its more locker room and coaching issues.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I don't think penalties were necessarily what people are worried about. I think its more locker room and coaching issues.

No, it’s certainly on the field issues. He hasn’t gotten in trouble off the field.

 

[gtb1943]

Looking at that list I see Tyler Smith and Micah and Guyton all having 14 accepted penalties the last two years
the real thing is that guyton got them all IN ONE YEAR.

 

[gtb1943]

I don't think penalties were necessarily what people are worried about. I think its more locker room and coaching issues.

its the locker room rumors that worry me; but once again we do not know the whole story

 

[Denim Chicken]

No, it’s certainly on the field issues. He hasn’t gotten in trouble off the field.

I know, but I don't think the worry is about about penalty yardage. The worry is about him gelling into the culture.

 

[RS12]

Former NFL wide receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh revealed some key details on why the Pittsburgh Steelers traded George Pickens to the Dallas Cowboys earlier this week. It lines up with previous reports. The Steelers quite simply had enough with Pickens’ antics.

“George Pickens had stepped over and crossed the line a bit too many times and I know people that play with the Steelers. He’d be late for the team plane that would be flying out to away games multiple times. He’d be late to get on the team bus and they had enough of it,” Houshmandzadeh said on the Up On Game podcast.

“They didn’t want to pay him 30-plus million dollars and these antics are probably just going to get worse because you’re not even making anywhere near that. You’re doing all this now? What you gonna do when you get the money? And so they said. ‘You know what, we’re gonna get rid of [him]. Dallas, he’s your problem,’ but he’s gonna be a really good problem.”

In 2023, Pickens was fined over $200,000 between the NFL and the Steelers for on- and off-the-field incidents, including reported serial tardiness to team practices and meetings.

In 2024, he received over $80,000 in fines from the NFL for his on-field behavior, including unnecessary roughness, unsportsmanlike conduct, two fights after the end of a loss, and a profane message on his eye black. He also got into a sideline spat with fans.

Perhaps the most egregious of offenses was that Pickens arrived late to the team’s Christmas Day game against the Kansas City Chiefs, missing pregame warmups despite the fact that he was returning to action from a hamstring injury.

Tom Pelissero of NFL Network revealed on the Rich Eisen Show that Pickens was late for multiple games last season, not just the Chiefs game.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/article/ex-nfl-wr-reveals-why-191143842.html

 

[Proof]

I'm sure he'll be fine with getting 2-3 looks a game while Lamb is getting 10 targets a game from the 1 read QB.

dak has historically spread the ball around when he has viable options. y'all gotta come up with new material

 

[gtb1943]

dak has historically spread the ball around when he has viable options. y'all gotta come up with new material

Dak is generous. He even gives them to opposing players

 

[Techsass]

But the issue is not what he does on the field. The issue as I understand it is what he does in the locker room and multiple reports say he is not a good guy in the locker room. At least that was the case in Pittsburgh.

Interesting. Not sure where I saw the tweet, but it said he was well liked by his teammates. I think it was somewhere here on Cowboyszone.

 

[ATXSRT]

Any WR1 would have been annoyed in that Pittsburg situation. They never got the QB situation in check. I think the whole situation was exasperated there in Pitt.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I know, but I don't think the worry is about about penalty yardage. The worry is about him gelling into the culture.

No, I think the concern is very much being a potential detriment to the team during the game. Penalties can affect the game by killing drives, changing game time management, and shift momentum.

Same issue for Warriors fans with Draymond Green.