Pickens/Porter options?

[Kwyn]

If Porter continued to hold out another 2 games, he wouldn't get credited for this season & would still have a year left on his rookie contract in 2027.

The deadline is actually week 13.

Also, Porter already got full credit for weeks 1-3. When the Steelers formally “activated” him, he was in the clear.

The Steelers never fined him and listed him on the injury report every week. He collected his game checks every week.

Basically he outmaneuvered the system. The Steelers never negotiate after kickoff of game one, so at that point Porter made his play.

It’s not ideal and some fans will not forgive it but “holding out” or “holding in” is not a rarity.

 

[Verdict]

The money reason is because the Steelers have one of the strictest policies on guaranteed money. They’ll give a signing bonus but that’s about it.

As a “cash poor” team, they avoid guarantees as much as possible becsuse they cash flow limits their ability to put many millions into escrow on day one, which is what guarantees require.

The Steelers have a bad rep amongst players when it comes to contracts and player support. They also ranked dead last in the NFLPA players poll. Facilities, playing surface, training and recovery were all very bad.

Thank you for that insight. I was not aware of that.

 

[darthseinfeld]

The money reason is because the Steelers have one of the strictest policies on guaranteed money. They’ll give a signing bonus but that’s about it.

As a “cash poor” team, they avoid guarantees as much as possible becsuse they cash flow limits their ability to put many millions into escrow on day one, which is what guarantees require.

The Steelers have a bad rep amongst players when it comes to contracts and player support. They also ranked dead last in the NFLPA players poll. Facilities, playing surface, training and recovery were all very bad.

Thats surprising considering their fan base is 90% soccer moms. You would figure they would be rolling in cash with all the Sunday Funday Jerseys they probably sell

 

[Kwyn]

Thats surprising considering their fan base is 90% soccer moms. You would figure they would be rolling in cash with all the Sunday Funday Jerseys they probably sell

The Rooneys are absolutely billionaires but the entire family wealth is tied up in the team.

They are extremely cautious, to a fault, when it comes to outplaying up front money for anything at all.

So, they get tv money and ticket money and some stadium sponsorship, but not much else.

They don’t have the unique advantage the Cowboys have when it comes to merch revenue.

Cowboys were sued by the NFL and then counter-sued the for the right of to have full control of their merchandise. As a result, they make five times what the other 31 teams make.

All those other teams all share the same revenue pool.

all in the cowboys make maybe a half billion dollars annually due to their marketing, merch and sponsorships, which allows them to be more aggressive.

 

[Fmart322]

If the Cowboys were to crater this season then they should trade George Pickens and try to get the most they can for him. I would try whatever I could to hold onto JPJ because the better CBs are more difficult to find.
In a perfect world we'd be able to hold onto both GP and JPJ.

 

[Flamma]

If Porter continued to hold out another 2 games, he wouldn't get credited for this season & would still have a year left on his rookie contract in 2027.

I read where Pitts offered Porter $28m year & he was still holding out. The problem with Pitts is that they're really low on the guaranteed part of their contracts.

Pitt has been that way for a long time. Le'Veon Bell turned down a 5 year 75M dollar contract, or something close to it. On the surface, that's great for that time. But the only guaranteed money was the 10M dollar signing bonus. The Steelers can be very generous, but only if you're worth keeping. I can't blame them.

 

[Techsass]

The deadline is actually week 13.

Also, Porter already got full credit for weeks 1-3. When the Steelers formally “activated” him, he was in the clear.

The Steelers never fined him and listed him on the injury report every week. He collected his game checks every week.

Basically he outmaneuvered the system. The Steelers never negotiate after kickoff of game one, so at that point Porter made his play.

It’s not ideal and some fans will not forgive it but “holding out” or “holding in” is not a rarity.

Thanks. It was probably in your fan quotes post where I read that 2 games left bit.

 

[darthseinfeld]

If the Cowboys were to crater this season then they should trade George Pickens and try to get the most they can for him. I would try whatever I could to hold onto JPJ because the better CBs are more difficult to find.
In a perfect world we'd be able to hold onto both GP and JPJ.

Id prefer to keep Porter as well. He is a #1 CB. Pickens is a #2 WR here

 

[Fmart322]

Id prefer to keep Porter as well. He is a #1 CB. Pickens is a #2 WR here

Agreed