Play-Off Teams with Losing Records Against Performance in Wild Card Games

[GINeric]

But he won in the playoffs and SB though, meaning he beat the best competition…. If Dak was walking through the East and winning SB after SB, and was considered by many of the great football players of past and present as the GOAT, we wouldn’t be having this discussion.,

You Dak-fans just try so hard with these errant analogies..

You missed the whole point. He was saying Dak did this or that because of what the other defense couldn't do or this guy is old, or some other BS way of trying to diminish what Dak HAS been able to do.

With that said, I'm supposed to be a Dak fan because he plays for my favorite team called the Dallas Cowboys. I'm a fan of every player of the Dallas Cowboys.

You Dak haters are too dumb to hold other quarterbacks under the same set of rules that you hold Dak to. When someone points out how yall leave all facts out, you look dumb **.

 

[Qcard]

You missed the whole point. He was saying Dak did this or that because of what the other defense couldn't do or this guy is old, or some other BS way of trying to diminish what Dak HAS been able to do.

With that said, I'm supposed to be a Dak fan because he plays for my favorite team called the Dallas Cowboys. I'm a fan of every player of the Dallas Cowboys.

You Dak haters are too dumb to hold other quarterbacks under the same set of rules that you hold Dak to. When someone points out how yall leave all facts out, you look dumb **.

 

[USArmyVet]

Dak and the Cowboys put the final nail in Brady's coffin.

.....only to watch Dak implode the following week.

 

[StarOfGlory]

It's all about money now. The regular season is close to meaningless in all of these sports. You can be average to bad and still make the playoffs. You play a 162 game season in baseball and make the playoffs with just over 80 wins. What's the point? Money.

Or tank for a better draft pick. What the Mavericks did is disgusting. At least that is rarer in the NFL and MLB compared to the NBA and a lesser extent the NHL.

 

[Qcard]

Or tank for a better draft pick. What the Mavericks did is disgusting. At least that is rarer in the NFL and MLB compared to the NBA and a lesser extent the NHL.

NFL Teams do Tank...it's called the Salary Cap.

NFL is the only Top Tier Professional League NOT guaranteeing Contracts.

Between Revenue Sharing, Tickets and Sponsorships NFL Teams generate about $450M-$500M per Season.

 

[Cowboys5217]

The sad part is, I didn't bet a dime on it. After the way we played Houston, Dallas could lose to anybody.

I recently watched the ending of that game on youtube. Had to pull out a miracle just to beat the worst team in the league. Talk about a trap game, but somehow they survived it. If ALCOA still sponsored "Fantastic Finishes" that game would surely be featured.

 

[Flamma]

NFL Teams do Tank...it's called the Salary Cap.

NFL is the only Top Tier Professional League NOT guaranteeing Contracts.

Between Revenue Sharing, Tickets and Sponsorships NFL Teams generate about $450M-$500M per Season.

Not sure what this has to do with tanking. But who cares if they don't give guaranteed contracts? At most workplaces, if you're doing your job poorly, or bad, you get dismissed. I've been in unions all of my life. Not a single contract was guaranteed if my performance caused me to be fired.

 

[Flamma]

I recently watched the ending of that game on youtube. Had to pull out a miracle just to beat the worst team in the league. Talk about a trap game, but somehow they survived it. If ALCOA still sponsored "Fantastic Finishes" that game would surely be featured.

I loved Alcoa fantastic finishes. It wasn't easy finding highlights of anything back then.

Slightly off topic, but the Colts that year finished 11-1-2 and missed the playoffs. Now we have trash making the playoffs and people love it. In every sport, most notably the NBA and NHL.

I'm not one of those people that believe the playoffs should be limited like it was back then. But can we at least keep it to the good teams? I'm ok with 33% of the league or less. That ends my side rant.

 

[CowboyRoy]

.....only to watch Dak implode the following week.

Only to watch you run and hide after beating Brady.

 

[MyFairLady]

It's all about money now. The regular season is close to meaningless in all of these sports. You can be average to bad and still make the playoffs. You play a 162 game season in baseball and make the playoffs with just over 80 wins. What's the point? Money.

100% correct. I would go so far as to say that for most players the playoffs are meaningless as well. If you made 200 million in 4 years you have accomplished your goals. Winning championships can be nice but they are extra work that does not pay anything.

 

[gtb1943]

Brady is the GOAT, but you never mentioned how Brady played 20 years in a weak AFCE with the sorry Jets, Dolphins and Bills twice a year.

I noticed how you also failed to mention Dak leading us in wins over other very good quarterbacks throughout his career in other games as well.

If you're going to tell it, tell it all. Don't conveniently leave out all facts.

I noticed that Dak always fails to show up against SF in the Playoffs

 

[MyFairLady]

I could be wrong but I believe that players in the early 90s like Aikman, Smith and Irvin grew up dreaming about winning NFL championships. Making a few million bucks was a nice side benefit. Players today like Diggs and Zeke and D Flaw grew up dreaming about signing a 100 million dollar contract Winning and NFL championship would be a nice side benefit.

Now I am not saying I blame them. If I were good enough I would treat it the exact same way. The amount of money is insane and that is what is truly important now. As a fan I find it harder and harder to care about team success when the entire system is more about individual player success. I can see how some fans like it that way. Some people are fans of the players. Fantasy football and stuff like that. I am not one of those people. My allegiance is to the Cowboys. Players who help them win will always be heroes to me. Players who do not help them win will never have my support.

 

[Flamma]

I could be wrong but I believe that players in the early 90s like Aikman, Smith and Irvin grew up dreaming about winning NFL championships. Making a few million bucks was a nice side benefit. Players today like Diggs and Zeke and D Flaw grew up dreaming about signing a 100 million dollar contract Winning and NFL championship would be a nice side benefit.

Now I am not saying I blame them. If I were good enough I would treat it the exact same way. The amount of money is insane and that is what is truly important now. As a fan I find it harder and harder to care about team success when the entire system is more about individual player success. I can see how some fans like it that way. Some people are fans of the players. Fantasy football and stuff like that. I am not one of those people. My allegiance is to the Cowboys. Players who help them win will always be heroes to me. Players who do not help them win will never have my support.

Yes. A championship for players is no longer a high priority. It's as you describe. You used the 90s Cowboys for an example, and although you're right, if we go back further it didn't even pay the bills. They played because they loved to play and wanted to win at all costs. Like we did as kids and young adults for no money.

Once big money gets involved, everything changes. These guys that get drafted in the first or 2nd round don't cry or hug Roger because they're getting the chance to play football. They do it because they think they're going to be rich. Imagine Randy white crying and hugging the commissioner when he got drafted? Yeah, I'm sure that happened. Big money doesn't ruin the sport, but it definitely diminishes it. The competition isn't the same.

 

[StarOfGlory]

NFL Teams do Tank...it's called the Salary Cap.

NFL is the only Top Tier Professional League NOT guaranteeing Contracts.

Between Revenue Sharing, Tickets and Sponsorships NFL Teams generate about $450M-$500M per Season.

Jalen Hurts just received $179 million in guarantees.

 

[MyFairLady]

Yes. A championship for players is no longer a high priority. It's as you describe. You used the 90s Cowboys for an example, and although you're right, if we go back further it didn't even pay the bills. They played because they loved to play and wanted to win at all costs. Like we did as kids and young adults for no money.

Once big money gets involved, everything changes. These guys that get drafted in the first or 2nd round don't cry or hug Roger because they're getting the chance to play football. They do it because they think they're going to be rich. Imagine Randy white crying and hugging the commissioner when he got drafted? Yeah, I'm sure that happened. Big money doesn't ruin the sport, but it definitely diminishes it. The competition isn't the same.

For sure if you go back far enough playing professionally was a hardship. You had to make sacrifices just to play. Of course these guys should get the money that they have coming to them and it is great that they can make as much as they do but IMHO the product is not the same. Definitely the regular season. The NBA is the most extreme example. Regular season NBA games are almost unwatchable.

 

[Flamma]

For sure if you go back far enough playing professionally was a hardship. You had to make sacrifices just to play. Of course these guys should get the money that they have coming to them and it is great that they can make as much as they do but IMHO the product is not the same. Definitely the regular season. The NBA is the most extreme example. Regular season NBA games are almost unwatchable.

Yes. The product is not the same due to money. It's not something anyone can do about. I've stopped watching the NBA about 10 years ago. It hasn't gotten better.

Even though I like the NHL, their playoff system was worse years ago. The top 4 teams in every division made the playoffs. Literally only 5 or 6 teams didn't make the playoffs back in the early 90s. It was like 85% of teams made the playoffs. I wish they would drop the 7th and 8th seed, but that won't happen. Right now it's all about money at the expense of the game. I liked it more where making the playoffs was a reason alone to celebrate. That is no longer the case.

 

[GINeric]

I noticed that Dak always fails to show up against SF in the Playoffs

Well the playoff game last year vs the 49ers, our team committed 14 or 15 penalties. I don't know too many quarterbacks that can overcome those obstacles. Dak struggled, but so did the defense, the offensive coordinator and the head coach for not having the team mentally ready to play.

Now this most recent playoff game vs the 49ers.... Dak played bad, it's no getting around that.

Hopefully Dak and the rest of our offense will be placed in better situations under the leadership of a REAL offensive coordinator who has the intelligence/higher IQ to understand the flow of the game and in-game situations.

We didn't have that in Kellen Moore. He wasn't intelligent enough to stick to the run as we were gashing defenses for 5 and 6 yards a pop. We can have two RBs with 80+ yards apiece by the third quarter but then it'll be 2nd and short or goal. KMs dumb *** would start getting pass happy and call pass plays or some stupid *** reverse play, instead of continuing gashing the opposing defense with a run game they've shown that they can't stop.

 

[USArmyVet]

Only to watch you run and hide after beating Brady.

Run and hide? Sorry, you must have me confused with Dak when big games matter.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Run and hide? Sorry, you must have me confused with Dak when big games matter.

Bucs game didnt matter eh? LOL

Only games that matter are the ones he plays bad in?

How about the Greenbay playoff game when he went for 300 yards and 3 TD's? Rams playoff game? How about the Seattle playoff game when dak outdueled Wilson? DOH!!!

How about the big game against the Eagles this year? OUCH!!!!!!!

 

[USArmyVet]

Bucs game didnt matter eh? LOL

Only games that matter are the ones he plays bad in?

How about the Greenbay playoff game when he went for 300 yards and 3 TD's? Rams playoff game? How about the Seattle playoff game when dak outdueled Wilson? DOH!!!

How about the big game against the Eagles this year? OUCH!!!!!!!

LOL...funny how you look only at game-ending stats and not the fact that Dak fails to show up for 3/4's of those games......but you keep with the touch-ups of your personalized Dak tattoo on your arse to show Dak first-hand what a fan you are.