Players of the past
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Muhast
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Well part of it goes to how our education system is now. I'm 21, and if you told 10 of my friends to spell simple words like Definite you would have like 6 spell it phonetically "Definate" . It's sad.
Also back then players completed college. Players now jump ship as soon as they can. And athletes are so advanced now a days with regiments that people go for a wow guy whereas back then you wanted an exemplary player/human to be your main player.
Just my thoughts.
Also back then players completed college. Players now jump ship as soon as they can. And athletes are so advanced now a days with regiments that people go for a wow guy whereas back then you wanted an exemplary player/human to be your main player.
Just my thoughts.
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Hard to compare. There is so much more face time for players in today's era. Every single player on the roster gets interviewed at some point and that was not the case in past eras. Just the sheer volume of interviews is much greater today. If it were like that in the past, then maybe you would not think there was a difference.
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Muhast;1983616 said:
I graduated from college in 1964, and athletes from back then, or a heck of a lot of them, played four years, but often did not have a degree when they left college. The fact they may now leave after three years, without a degree, isn't much different.
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Hostile;1983612 said:
Bingo.
Let me add something as a black man. Our communities were more cohesive during the days of segregation and shortly thereafter. Black communities - particularly middle-class communities - placed a premium on education because that was seen as the way to better one's self in this culture, a culture which at the time heavily discriminated against blacks.
But as segregation began to fall and as black communities (others too but I'm focusing mostly on black communities) started to fragment as middle-class and upper-class blacks left the neighborhoods, the quality of education suffered, the morality of the community suffered and the focus on education shifted to other areas. So now you have a generation of young people raised in single-parent homes, in areas where education isn't stressed and either entertainment or sports is seen as the way out. You still have the talented kids who develop into talented adults. But the focus on education isn't there so you end up with a talented athlete who can't string words together and who doesn't know how to balance a check book.
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I believe it has more to do with the education system in this country more than anything else. I talk to people all the time who have college degrees and can't speak well or put a sentence together. I won't even get into spelling as most people under 40 can't spell worth squat.
My kids, who are in their 20s, were not required by the school system to learn how to spell properly but were encouraged to "be creative". They weren't taught the multiplication table in school and therefore have trouble doing math in their heads. They were never required to know geography so when we moved from SoCal to NC they had to me show them on the big map in my office to see where it was (they were 10 & 8 at the time). They probably can't name more than a dozen countries outside the US. The worst thing is that they were considered exceptionally smart by their peers!
Education in this country has been dumbed down to such a degree that most people would fail a 5th grade final from 1960. My parents were required to know so much more than we were and, us so much more than our kids. Of course they didn't know how to text message each other so I guess that balances things out.
The letters my parents wrote to each other during the Korean War, when my dad was overseas, are amazing in their vocabulary, structure, and content and these were from people who never went to college.
The ability to communicate clearly and with some measure of skill is becoming a lost art.
My kids, who are in their 20s, were not required by the school system to learn how to spell properly but were encouraged to "be creative". They weren't taught the multiplication table in school and therefore have trouble doing math in their heads. They were never required to know geography so when we moved from SoCal to NC they had to me show them on the big map in my office to see where it was (they were 10 & 8 at the time). They probably can't name more than a dozen countries outside the US. The worst thing is that they were considered exceptionally smart by their peers!
Education in this country has been dumbed down to such a degree that most people would fail a 5th grade final from 1960. My parents were required to know so much more than we were and, us so much more than our kids. Of course they didn't know how to text message each other so I guess that balances things out.
The letters my parents wrote to each other during the Korean War, when my dad was overseas, are amazing in their vocabulary, structure, and content and these were from people who never went to college.
The ability to communicate clearly and with some measure of skill is becoming a lost art.
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"He can't do what OCHO CINCO do!" Well, at least he knows a little bit of a foreign language, I guess.
Seriously, when I was in junior high, we were given a map of the United States with the state borders shown, but no labels and told to label the states and show the state capitals. The kid next to me labeled a state about four states away from where he lived, as the state where he lived. So basically, he had no idea where in the world he was.
Part of the problem today is the internet and text messages, which do not exactly encourage thoughtfulness, restraint or proper grammar.
Seriously, when I was in junior high, we were given a map of the United States with the state borders shown, but no labels and told to label the states and show the state capitals. The kid next to me labeled a state about four states away from where he lived, as the state where he lived. So basically, he had no idea where in the world he was.
Part of the problem today is the internet and text messages, which do not exactly encourage thoughtfulness, restraint or proper grammar.