Players who deserve the front office's patented 2 year contract

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Dowdle needs to go. All he has shown is he is better than a washed up Zeke. Players like him is why we never will be a Super Bowl threat. There will be a better back in free agency that the Cowboys could sign to help our draft pick.

Gholston is the only guy I would extend because he would be a good replacement for Tank.
Actually he showed he deserves to stay on this team he is an NFL running back he may not be a starter not be a everyday 25 carry a game back but he is definitely deserves to be getting carries on an NFL team you are watching what this offensive staff has made your eyes see whenever they've given him the ball 20 * a game he's turned it into a very good game he's averaging over 4 yards per carry that is an NFL back in this offense with this offensive line in these scenarios we've been watching he should have been getting all Tony snaps last year so I don't know what you're watching if they would have flipped the way they managed the snaps last year this team would have been better Tony does not deserve$1,000,000 to me Rico is just a slightly slower version of Tony Tony's not special Tony's overpaid last time he was here and he's overpaid over with the Titans he's just a good back and so is Rico..

The only reason he hasn't been more relative is because he was injury prone he couldn't get on the field or stay on the field but this year and last year whenever giving the carries he's actually produced the man gets iced by his own offensive coordinator if going into this season they would have given him 18 carries a game for the first five games and 22 carries for the next couple of games and then just started giving it to him 25 * a game he's been producing every bit as good as Kareem hunt is over in Kansas City that's all you need is a productive back but yes we would need a home run hitter we need another guy but as a backup he's a perfect backup he does his job and don't say that fumble somehow was on him that whistle should have blown that should have been a red flag drop because he was held up by guys and he did everything he could to hold on to that ball that wasn't one of those that just popped out 'cause he wasn't holding it strong his forward momentum was stopped and it should have never been allowed but this kid is a lot better than you're giving him credit for it it's our offensive coordinator that's making all these players look bad they ice our players anybody that gets hot they get put on the bench it's like stops their momentum he could've had three 100 yard games this year if he was given the ball..

He may not have breakaway elite speed in a creator but he's a perfect rotational back in the NFL and I'm sorry you don't see it most of us can see it he's way better than Ezekiel Elliott has been he's been consistent you give him the ball he'll get you close to four yards per carry and sometimes more that means if you give it to him 25 times he's probably gonna get you 100 yards that's it all some of these other backs do go look at naji Harris go look at Kareem hunt and I'm not going to list them all there's a lot of bats that fall into that exact category they're not all say Quan Barkley and they're not all Gibbs they're not all gonna be those types of acts you got to have others also....
 

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I wouldn't offer Rico anymore than a one year deal. His health history and the available talent in the upcoming draft makes it a no for me, he would be lucky to get that 1 year lowball offer. The Cowboys special.

I'd let him test the market and then match whatever he's offered. He's not going to get much of an offer and he's a competent back. Would love to keep him around as a back up, change of pace type back.

Rico wouldve looked better this year if MM didn't screw around with a commitee for so long.
 

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Actually he showed he deserves to stay on this team he is an NFL running back he may not be a starter not be a everyday 25 carry a game back but he is definitely deserves to be getting carries on an NFL team you are watching what this offensive staff has made your eyes see whenever they've given him the ball 20 * a game he's turned it into a very good game he's averaging over 4 yards per carry that is an NFL back in this offense with this offensive line in these scenarios we've been watching he should have been getting all Tony snaps last year so I don't know what you're watching if they would have flipped the way they managed the snaps last year this team would have been better Tony does not deserve$1,000,000 to me Rico is just a slightly slower version of Tony Tony's not special Tony's overpaid last time he was here and he's overpaid over with the Titans he's just a good back and so is Rico..

The only reason he hasn't been more relative is because he was injury prone he couldn't get on the field or stay on the field but this year and last year whenever giving the carries he's actually produced the man gets iced by his own offensive coordinator if going into this season they would have given him 18 carries a game for the first five games and 22 carries for the next couple of games and then just started giving it to him 25 * a game he's been producing every bit as good as Kareem hunt is over in Kansas City that's all you need is a productive back but yes we would need a home run hitter we need another guy but as a backup he's a perfect backup he does his job and don't say that fumble somehow was on him that whistle should have blown that should have been a red flag drop because he was held up by guys and he did everything he could to hold on to that ball that wasn't one of those that just popped out 'cause he wasn't holding it strong his forward momentum was stopped and it should have never been allowed but this kid is a lot better than you're giving him credit for it it's our offensive coordinator that's making all these players look bad they ice our players anybody that gets hot they get put on the bench it's like stops their momentum he could've had three 100 yard games this year if he was given the ball..

He may not have breakaway elite speed in a creator but he's a perfect rotational back in the NFL and I'm sorry you don't see it most of us can see it he's way better than Ezekiel Elliott has been he's been consistent you give him the ball he'll get you close to four yards per carry and sometimes more that means if you give it to him 25 times he's probably gonna get you 100 yards that's it all some of these other backs do go look at naji Harris go look at Kareem hunt and I'm not going to list them all there's a lot of bats that fall into that exact category they're not all say Quan Barkley and they're not all Gibbs they're not all gonna be those types of acts you got to have others also....
You just described a JAG. We need to get out of that mindset. We have seen Rico for 5 years. He needs to go. What will probably happen is he will go out in free agency and get offered no real money. Then the Cowboys will resign him to a middling contract.
 

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I wouldn't offer Rico anymore than a one year deal. His health history and the available talent in the upcoming draft makes it a no for me, he would be lucky to get that 1 year lowball offer. The Cowboys special.
yeah he's toughing it out this year to get a new deal, after getting it he'll be back on that list every week
 

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None are exceptional.
Hoffman maybe.
Blimey! This team's fanbase dwells way too much on journeymen players or scrubs with potential.
The fan base are realistic. We aren’t spending big on a FA. All these guys are as good as what we could get on the open market with our budget. And most are young with some potential upside. It’s not like we let Arnstrong walk and sign a comparable player. Same with everyone we let walk. You let guys walk if you are gonna replace them with a rookie or a comparable vet. We won’t sign any vet as good as any of them.
 

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Hoffman is a ERFA after this season so my guess is they make him a one year offer in the offseason. That would be standard. If he continues to play like he has for Dallas, I suspect he will look for a place he can start after 2025.

I don't know that I would keep Dowdle. He is the best RB on the Cowboys roster, but I really hope they upgrade that position a lot in the offseason.

The others I like as well. But I think 2025 will be like 2024.We will see a lot of Cowboys players leaving while Dallas does little to retain them.
I’d keep dowdle and draft a player. He’s as good as most number 2’s out there and won’t be expensive
 

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at vet minimum. yes. anything else, forget about it
We tried that last year. You are not replacing any of them with a better talent for less money. Look at Fowler. Armstrong, Hankins and others. We just didn’t replace them at all and we aren’t going to this year. If you let a guy walk and sign a better player that’s great. But that’s not gonna happen and you aren’t getting better signing just guys who will take vet min contracts
 

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You just described a JAG. We need to get out of that mindset. We have seen Rico for 5 years. He needs to go. What will probably happen is he will go out in free agency and get offered no real money. Then the Cowboys will resign him to a middling contract.
Does it need to go unless his price is different for everybody else you said he's a Jag but he's not washed and not everyone can do what he does that's enough or everyone would do it but why is Kansas City OK with a Jack cream hunt is not not done a single special thing and somehow that team is only lost one game this year they didn't go out and get a superhero they don't have that and yet they were undefeated both were the seventh round pick for two years during the Super bowl and now Kareem hunt off the street wasn't even on someone's practice squad that is OK for Kansas City but it's not OK for us no it was more our scheme and play calling Roc makes everyone look bad so you can call people just average no just average guys are in the UFL. Rico has proved the last two years you can give him 15 carries a game and he's gonna produce enough you're calling it a Jag but I bet he can get you 100 yards every game or at least close to it if you hand it to him 20 to 25 times and you call that a Jack that's any George Eddie George most of his career was under 4 yards per carry these lumbering backs that you don't like right now used to be the staple in the NFL you just hanging the ball a lot and if they can handle it you keep handling the ball **** Harris is the same way and that's good enough for Pittsburgh who's also a playoff team and somehow you think can't be a Jack I mean you want me to keep going on and on and look at a lot of rosters I'm saying that if our coaching staff was smarter stuck with the run game actually committed to it work with the offensive line scheme and they gave the ball to Rico 20 times every game he would be a lot more productive right now in your eyes because to me he's not much different than Tony aside from a little burst Tony did nothing here for his $11 million and he's not doing enough in my eyes with the Titans to say he's better than Rico...I mean tp makig what 8mil had game 47 yards and anther 19 yard 2 games in row??!~!

Give some perspective I'm not selling you on Enrico being a full time starter here yes we need to get a dynamic back with a little more juice but Rico deserves a spot on this roster as long as he doesn't ask for too much money I'm sorry but I just gave you a couple examples I can keep going go look at any George's numbers I think that you don't realize what eyes and your ears really hurt that's why a lot of people said Emmett Smith wasn't special he played behind a great offensive line with an offensive coach that was run oriented and he had the stamina to carry as much as you want but most of his yards per carry were not special he didn't have a lot of long runs in big yards he was steady Eddie that's why I called Eddie George go look at their damn career yards per carry you'll find a whole bunch of them under 4!

So you need both kinda backs you need a fullback like hunter you need a strong back that can carry it a lot that would be Rico and then you need someone with some juice.. Yes we will drop one of those but I think you're under selling what he's doing by calling him a Jagger Jag is not a bad word you need a lot of Jags on your team to fill out a roster when it's got 10 guys making most of the money gotta find a way to fill in the rest of your roster so let that sit and Stew and stop arguing with me....
 

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I'd let him test the market and then match whatever he's offered. He's not going to get much of an offer and he's a competent back. Would love to keep him around as a back up, change of pace type back.

Rico wouldve looked better this year if MM didn't screw around with a commitee for so long.
100%%!!!! These people fail to see there's guys like cream hunt naji Harris other guys around the league that are considered average but if you're handing the ball 25 * a game they'll get you close to 100 yards they may not have the juice but they belong on your roster Rico was used wrong last year I think Tony would have been better last year had Rico got zeke like carries and the beginning of this year that was a mistake they played around they messed around fafo and they ended up making everyone look bad in the run game because they ice their own player he shows you can give it to him 20 times he gets you 8687 yards that means if you give it to him 25 times it gets close to 100 yards that's all Kareem is doing right now naji Harris other guys I think they forget Eddie George even a lot of years for Emmett Smith it was about availability stamina for those dudes that carried the ball a lot they didn't have any big ypc numbers....

And you're 100% correct they don't wanna see it but I see it I don't mean he should be the starter but our run game would've been a lot better if they would've just after the Pittsburgh game gave it to Rico 20 * a game unless he was hurt or more it's the exact thing that Kansas City did and somehow were undefeated using Kareem hunt who said nothing special this year at all he basically is Rico...
 
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You just described a JAG. We need to get out of that mindset. We have seen Rico for 5 years. He needs to go. What will probably happen is he will go out in free agency and get offered no real money. Then the Cowboys will resign him to a middling contract.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/player/_/stat/rushing

look at some of these guys on this list 4 yards per carry for some of these guys 3.8,4.2, 4.4 just like Rico you give him a ball more these guys are starters on other NFL teams that are not doing anything else special that's the difference here he wasn't utilized enough they didn't commit to the football didn't commit to Rico after that Pittsburgh game it should have been obvious...
isnt Achane the big play guy in MIA 4.3 YPC Kareem Hunt 3.7 and hes starts for an 10-1 TEAM!!!! The difference right off the street no practice threw him right in the game and gave him 20 carries that's not our coaching staff our coaching staff is a bigger problem here than the names on the back of the jerseys!!

Rico 4.4 even if you gave him the ball so much it lowered down to 4.0 how's that any different than half that list go look at the list? He is an NFL running back when healthy but you guys are just wanting to throw it under the carpet..

Walker in Seattle 3.8 YPC HMM Jag alert but starts for the seahawks!!
Javonta Williams 3.7 ouch starts in denver
Entiennne? 4.0
singletary 4.1
kamara 4.2
Kwilliams stars for the rams supposed to be explosive 4.0


so what's the difference they have more yards they may have a few more touchdowns the problem here is the amount of carries that Rico didn't get that he should have got they were wasted on other people that's it the difference in here and half the league that doesn't have a dynamic back they use a back a lot like Rico or rotation of them yes we need a better back but you're not seeing the big picture it's obvious..

I'm not saying we don't need a young fresh running back we do maybe one with a little more juice but I'm telling you you're not paying attention to the rest of the NFL if you think Rico can't be a starter here this year,,

I'm not saying we shouldn't get a new one I'm saying he's good to rotate in and he's a good backup but right now this year he is in the Max with the rest of the starters.. He's not dynamic but it matters that if you keep giving a guy the ball enough it's the threat of the run you can play play action but our coaching staff just annoys me and everyone else because they used Vaughn too much the wrong way they kept trying to force it to zeke then they tried to get carries to dalvin cook the whole time they should have just used Rico that's the point we're trying to make the man deserved it after the damn Pittsburgh game and then he had the alleged flu game but every time they handed the ball 18 to 25 times he produces..
 
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Gholston and Hoffman - yes
Bell - maybe

Everybody else - shrug
 

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We tried that last year. You are not replacing any of them with a better talent for less money. Look at Fowler. Armstrong, Hankins and others. We just didn’t replace them at all and we aren’t going to this year. If you let a guy walk and sign a better player that’s great. But that’s not gonna happen and you aren’t getting better signing just guys who will take vet min contracts
like I said, I wouldn't want to pay anything significant because they are all Jags...and equal skills and ability cost around vet minimum or slightly above. those are the type of FAs we tend to sign anyway, 3rd, 4th and 5th wave FA
 

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It’s likely they retain one of Golston/OO, probably not both…but that’s not good enough. Fans know this, the powers that be do not.

They badly need to spend the money to obtain at least one legit FA DT but they won’t.

They probably think that since they have invested many draft picks in recent years at DT they shouldn’t have to spend in FA, and they expect their ROI….as if draft picks busting isn’t possible…and there’s your problem.

That’s where the season ends every year…up the gut…and they do zero about fixing it. Still can’t believe Brent Urban wasn’t a stud. Amazing.
 

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100%%!!!! These people fail to see there's guys like cream hunt naji Harris other guys around the league that are considered average but if you're handing the ball 25 * a game they'll get you close to 100 yards they may not have the juice but they belong on your roster Rico was used wrong last year I think Tony would have been better last year had Rico got zeke like carries and the beginning of this year that was a mistake they played around they messed around fafo and they ended up making everyone look bad in the run game because they ice their own player he shows you can give it to him 20 times he gets you 8687 yards that means if you give it to him 25 times it gets close to 100 yards that's all Kareem is doing right now naji Harris other guys I think they forget Eddie George even a lot of years for Emmett Smith it was about availability stamina for those dudes that carried the ball a lot they didn't have any big ypc numbers....

And you're 100% correct they don't wanna see it but I see it I don't mean he should be the starter but our run game would've been a lot better if they would've just after the Pittsburgh game gave it to Rico 20 * a game unless he was hurt or more it's the exact thing that Kansas City did and somehow were undefeated using Kareem hunt who said nothing special this year at all he basically is Rico...

Completely agree. There's also something to be said for a self made guy who comes in undrafted and works his tail off making the team year after year. Before we were lamenting how crappy our rb corps was, a lot of people acknowledged he ran with some pop last year.
 

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Completely agree. There's also something to be said for a self made guy who comes in undrafted and works his tail off making the team year after year. Before we were lamenting how crappy our rb corps was, a lot of people acknowledged he ran with some pop last year.
Yeah I think this place loses touch with reality if you look at my other post up there and look at the first page of the running backs that have been used this year more than half of them how many around 40 yards per carry or less old starters or other teams don’t look much better than Rico see about here is the top four guys they think everyone should look like Henry Gibbs Barkley and I can’t member the other guy this dudes are like blowing up the stat sheet right now but most of the guys they’re just giving a lot of calories but they’re not doing anything special

Counting stars give him the ball 20+ times a game nobody what they said after just get what you can that’ll give us the efficient running game and after one play action to keep people honest.

Our coaching ices our own players Sometimes the substitutions make no sense and who’s active and inactive and then when they’re in the game they’re in the wrong situation for their skill set it’s just I can’t wait till the stack is gone
 
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Just fill the team with young hungry guys that wanna play hard and work hard. Then you hope you hit on a few "stars" that can lead them all the way. Unfortunately out "stars" have proven to be nothing but turds.
 

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Just fill the team with young hungry guys that wanna play hard and work hard. Then you hope you hit on a few "stars" that can lead them all the way. Unfortunately out "stars" have proven to be nothing but turds.
Parsons and lamb are both elite players.
 
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