Playoff game w/ Seattle is on NFLN now

5Stars;1551708 said:
Maybe the squad felt that they did not have confidence because Parcells was always degrading them in some way or the other? Maybe they were playing "too stiff" because they did not want the wrath of Parcells?

It's like anything in life...if you are good at something but someone is always putting you down, you lose confidence in yourself. I think this is a part of what might have happened to the team during the last part of the season. They just got tired of "walking on egg shells"...

:confused:

this is what I say to them if that's the case

retire

I don't want them on my team
 
Bob Sacamano;1551709 said:
this is what I say to them if that's the case

retire

I don't want them on my team


:laugh2: OK...so the whole team walks away, now what?

You can't give a "team" an ultimatum like that...you need to work with them and let them use their basic instincts. By doing that you increase their confidence. Confidence breeds winners...not berating everything and anything they do because that is acutally counter productive...

You will find this out later on...

;)
 
5Stars;1551712 said:
:laugh2: OK...so the whole team walks away, now what?

You can't give a "team" an ultimatum like that...you need to work with them and let them use their basic instincts. By doing that you increase their confidence. Confidence breeds winners...not berating everything and anything they do because that is acutally counter productive...

You will find this out later on...

;)

I don't think it's possible that the whole team is full of Nancy's who can't take criticism

your argument is a huge cop-out, I don't know about you, but I want mentally tough players on the team that I root for

btw, I would like to see some evidence for your claim
 
Bob Sacamano;1551733 said:
btw, I would like to see some evidence for your claim

What did I claim? :confused:

You want evidence? Jimmy Johnson was proof of that! If his teams got you down...he made damn sure you were down!

"How bout them Cowboys"!

He brought his team togeather...he made them winners where the players might have thought they were not so good...he got through to the players.

Now those players were the best of the best, I know that...but the mind can be taught to do things that you cannot think you can do...Jimmy did that.
 
5Stars;1551743 said:
What did I claim? :confused:

You want evidence? Jimmy Johnson was proof of that! If his teams got you down...he made damn sure you were down!

"How bout them Cowboys"!

He brought his team togeather...he made them winners where the players might have thought they were not so good...he got through to the players.

Now those players were the best of the best, I know that...but the mind can be taught to do things that you cannot think you can do...Jimmy did that.

different players man
 
There are 3 things that still bother me about that game. The first one goes right to the point of Parcells conservative ways.
1. When we take our first timeout in the second half and we have the ball on Seattle's 31 or 32 yd line with a 3rd and 1 facing us. And we were up by 7pts at that time I believe. Everyone knows that this is where we go to Barber and we had success with that most of the season. However if you remember the prior game against Detroit, Barber was getting stuffed on those short yardage situations. So..after the timeout I see Barber coming onto the field and I just knew this was the perfect time to cross the defense up and do a play-action pass and really take control of the game. Instead we hand off to Barber right up the middle and lose 2yds and end up punting.
2. Why did the officials change the spot of the ball on Witten's catch late in the game? If anyone can show me the replay that CLEARLY IS DEFINITIVE that it was wrong I would like to see it because I have still not seen it.
3. I had no problem going for the field goal after they changed the spot after Witten's catch. I thought that was the right call but I do subscribe to the consipiracy theory of the slippery ball being put into play for that field goal try. The replay shows the shiny ball and Holmgrens un-provoked defending of his people who handled the football and then his cheap shot remark about Tony not holding on to it makes me wonder if there really is something about that.
But Parcells was conservative and his over-reaction to Tony's fumbling bumbling ways in the previous game against Detroit may explain why he was that way in this game. However when we were up by 7 and facing a 3rd and 1...that was the time to go for it instead of being conservative. I will never understand that call. The Sehawks were the defending NFC champs and Dallas had stumbled down the stretch of the season and we were the clear underdogs. You have let your team try to win instead of trying not to lose it in those circumstances!!!!!!!!:banghead:
 
J-DOG;1551752 said:
There are 3 things that still bother me about that game. The first one goes right to the point of Parcells conservative ways.

1. When we take our first timeout in the second half and we have the ball on Seattle's 31 or 32 yd line with a 3rd and 1 facing us. And we were up by 7pts at that time I believe. Everyone knows that this is where we go to Barber and we had success with that most of the season. However if you remember the prior game against Detroit, Barber was getting stuffed on those short yardage situations. So..after the timeout I see Barber coming onto the field and I just knew this was the perfect time to cross the defense up and do a play-action pass and really take control of the game. Instead we hand off to Barber right up the middle and lose 2yds and end up punting.

2. Why did the officials change the spot of the ball on Witten's catch late in the game? If anyone can show me the replay that CLEARLY IS DEFINITIVE that it was wrong I would like to see it because I have still not seen it.

3. I had no problem going for the field goal after they changed the spot after Witten's catch. I thought that was the right call but I do subscribe to the consipiracy theory of the slippery ball being put into play for that field goal try. The replay shows the shiny ball and Holmgrens un-provoked defending of his people who handled the football and then his cheap shot remark about Tony not holding on to it makes me wonder if there really is something about that.

But Parcells was conservative and his over-reaction to Tony's fumbling bumbling ways in the previous game against Detroit may explain why he was that way in this game. However when we were up by 7 and facing a 3rd and 1...that was the time to go for it instead of being conservative.

I will never understand that call. The Sehawks were the defending NFC champs and Dallas had stumbled down the stretch of the season and we were the clear underdogs. You have let your team try to win instead of trying not to lose it in those circumstances!!!!!!!!:banghead:

You're welcome!

;)
 
On the bright side: Bobby Carpenter played a great game. If it's an open competition in training camp I look for him to unseat Bradie James.
 
CanadianCowboysFan;1551692 said:
As for your comment about man bra sniffers, you know if Jimmy ever stops short your nose will come out his mouth.

:lmao2: :lmao:
 
I'm sorry, but not taking advantage of the Seahawks' secondary was INEXCUSEABLE!!!!

Whatever happened to taking advantage of the opponent's weakness. :confused:
 
tyke1doe;1551781 said:
I'm sorry, but not taking advantage of the Seahawks' secondary was INEXCUSEABLE!!!!

Whatever happened to taking advantage of the opponent's weakness. :confused:


It flew out the window, when BP took office
 
5Stars;1551762 said:
You're welcome!

;)
Actually I referred back to Parcells conservative style on pg 1 of this thread.
I'm just glad I was not the only one who felt that way.:)
 
tyke1doe;1551781 said:
I'm sorry, but not taking advantage of the Seahawks' secondary was INEXCUSEABLE!!!!

Whatever happened to taking advantage of the opponent's weakness. :confused:


BINGO!!!!!!
 
Bob Sacamano;1551702 said:
that's the difference in having confidence in your squad because they are pretty good, and not having that confidence because your squad isn't as good as it should be, I don't remember the last time I felt comfortable in the ability of our team to get it done when it counts
Well, Parcells said in the postgame PC something like, "If we kick basically an extra point there, we win the game." So his plans to run the clock down and kick didn't imply lack of confidence in the defense. Even though they still had 1:19 in the game, he thought we'd have won if Tony had just gotten the ball down.

You golfers know how great Ben Hogan was. I remember a quote from him that when you played a course the first few times, you just saw the fairways and greens, the places where you wanted to hit it. As you played the course over and over and hit some bad shots in the rough or the trees or that impossible bunker, you started seeing the trouble instead. I think that's a pretty good metaphor for what happened to Parcells, or probably most coaches who get older. Who knows, if Jimmy had coached until he was 65, he might not have been so go-for-broke all the time like he was when he was 45, either.

Anyway, that Seattle game didn't depress me at all. We put up a tough fight against a good playoff team in one of the toughest stadiums in the league and basically lost on a freak play. Watching the game again, we were so close to winning that game at so many points... If Terry doesn't fumble into our own endzone... If Barber gets another few feet... If Witten's spot is better... If Tony gets a routine snap down. But at least we didn't do like the Eagles game a few weeks before and roll over and embarrass ourselves. And maybe more than anything, that game was GREAT experience for Tony. I think he felt what playoff pressure was like, and he'll be better for it the next time he experiences it.
 
burmafrd;1551650 said:
the reason why Tnew is a CB is because he does not have good hands. Otherwise he would be a WR. Most CBs drop a lot of easy INTs.

Newman is a CB because he is 5'11" and can cover well. Being a good CB does not translate into WR skills.
 
This coming from someone who thinks Moss is great at what, 5'8"?
My point is that many CBs start out as WRs - but without good hands they get put to the OTHER place great speed makes a difference- CB.
 
Guess what, that Romo throw to Terry Glenn was better than I intially thought, it wasn't low after looking at the replay.... TG just screwed up!
 
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