Playoff Implications

AdamJT13;4231495 said:
Unless it's a three-team tie with Atlanta or Tampa Bay (if we beat the Bucs). In a three-team tiebreaker with Detroit and either of them (if we beat the Bucs), we should win based on our NFC record.

McLovin;4231491 said:
Every year people come out and say that we have to be 11-5 to get a WC. And other than 1 year to a team in NE, this is historically never the case.

10-6 almost always gets a WC and even at 9-7 you have roughly a 33% chance.

We could win the division at 9-7 this year. A wildcard at 9-7 would be a poor bet, but possible. At 10-6 we are in like flinn.

It's way too soon to be trying to work out all the scenarios. We have no clue how it's going to play out yet. Just as many people had the Pats beating the Giants as had the Eagles beating the Bears, and they were all wrong. Just gotta wait and see what happens...
 
Eric_Boyer;4231471 said:
Miami has played well the last two weeks and their coaching staff has intimate knowledge of our players. calling that game a gimme is ridiculous.

If we can't beat Miami we have no business making the playoffs anyway.

We could be sitting pretty at 7-1 right now with a lot of room for error. Instead, we're 4-4 and don't have the luxury of losing any games we are supposed to win. We absolutely MUST beat Washington, Miami, Arizona and Tampa Bay to have any chance, because even then we still have to win two of Buffalo, NY x2 and Philly.

Realistically, our best hope for this season is to beat Buffalo, beat the three poor teams we play after that and be 8-4 going into the Giants game. Also, hope that Philly absolutely tanks so they have nothing to play for when we face them at home in week 16.It also wouldnt hurt for Tampa Bay to be out of it, but at 4-4 and looking at their schedule it's hard to imagine they will be out of contention in the NFC by week 15. I imagine they'll be 7-6 or so going into that game. What makes me nervous is that last game of the year in the Meadowlands if the division title is on the line. Those are not the kind of games that bring out the best in Tony Romo and friends.
 
The30YardSlant;4231516 said:
If we can't beat Miami we have no business making the playoffs anyway.

We could be sitting pretty at 7-1 right now with a lot of room for error. Instead, we're 4-4 and don't have the luxury of losing any games we are supposed to win. We absolutely MUST beat Washington, Miami, Arizona and Tampa Bay to have any chance, because even then we still have to win two of Buffalo, NY x2 and Philly.

Realistically, our best hope for this season is to beat Buffalo, beat the three poor teams we play after that and be 8-4 going into the Giants game. Also, hope that Philly absolutely tanks so they have nothing to play for when we face them at home in week 16.It also wouldnt hurt for Tampa Bay to be out of it, but at 4-4 and looking at their schedule it's hard to imagine they will be out of contention in the NFC by week 15. I imagine they'll be 7-6 or so going into that game. What makes me nervous is that last game of the year in the Meadowlands if the division title is on the line. Those are not the kind of games that bring out the best in Tony Romo and friends.


Lmao. I literally laughed out loud.
 
Eric_Boyer;4231443 said:
that lions game is going to come back and haunt us, I just know it. :bang2:

That's how I feel too, but I really hope we're wrong. Blowing such a big lead against a team that will be competing for a playoff spot in the NFC was terrible. I would feel much better about this team's chances if we were 5-3 with that win over the Lions.

Having said that, it was awesome waking up and reading that the Eagles lost! :) They were winning 24-20 the last time I had checked last night.
 
The30YardSlant;4231516 said:
What makes me nervous is that last game of the year in the Meadowlands if the division title is on the line. Those are not the kind of games that bring out the best in Tony Romo and friends.

That game will be very tough. However, our most recent occurance of a big, late season, division-deciding, game was in 2009. We shut out the Eagles (after shutting out the Skins the week before, after beating undefeated N.O.). If you want to bring up history, bring up the most recent stuff. Believe me, I would not feel confident about that game either because it's a tough game to win - but we've proven we can win that kind of game. If anything, the Giants have been notorious for late-season collapses recently.
 
Had we just beaten the Lions, a game we owned...then we would be 5-1 in the NFC right now.....and in excellent shape.....

at 4-2, we are still in pretty good shape though....we need to take care of our division for sure, with 4 games remaining.
 
We have to start playing better football. The way we looked vs. Philly and Seattle won't win us many games. We have to start putting pressure on opposing qb's, dramatically slow down the run, get going on offense, etc.


We have an uphill battle for sure.
 
ufcrules1;4231653 said:
We have to start playing better football. The way we looked vs. Philly and Seattle won't win us many games. We have to start putting pressure on opposing qb's, dramatically slow down the run, get going on offense, etc.


We have an uphill battle for sure.

We actually played really well against Seattle. Not sure why people are so up in arms, we didn't roll them, but they weren't ever really in the game.

The score looks a little better, but at a time I believe the score was like 20-6...

They had trouble scoring on us. And we kept getting the ball in the redzone.
 
AdamJT13;4231495 said:
Unless it's a three-team tie with Atlanta or Tampa Bay (if we beat the Bucs). In a three-team tiebreaker with Detroit and either of them (if we beat the Bucs), we should win based on our NFC record.

The more teams, the more complicated to project at this point
 
Yeah, we are set up extremely well for the playoffs.

However, we've had situations in the past where fate was lining things up all nice and perfect for us to get in the playoffs and make a run, but we make our own fate and this team is currently incapable of making their mediocrity into excellence

In other words, I'll believe we have a shot at the playoffs when we're in the playoffs.
 
All we have to do is make the playoffs. You get there, and everyone is 0-0.
 
The Emperor;4231399 said:
I like our playoff chances for this reason. All four of our wins are NFC wins. That's SIGNIFICANT when it comes to tiebreakers.

That Detroit L is a bad L. Hope it doesn't come down to that.
 
McLovin;4231845 said:
The more teams, the more complicated to project at this point

Not really. In a three-team tiebreaker, unless one team has swept both of the others or lost to both of the others, the next tiebreaker is NFC record.

If it's us, Detroit and Atlanta, we would win the three-way tiebreaker unless the Lions lose to both the Raiders and the Chargers and the Falcons lose two out of three to the Titans, Jaguars and Texans. That's because our NFC record would be better than either of theirs.

The chances that Detroit and Atlanta go a combined 1-4 against those teams and STILL end up tied with us for the first wild card -- considering that the Lions also have to play the Packers twice and the Saints, and the Falcons still have to play the Saints twice -- is virtually nil. That's why I said that if we end up in a three-way tie with those two teams, we should win the tiebreaker.

If it's us, Detroit and the Bucs, and we beat the Bucs, it would be the same thing unless the Bucs lose two out of three to the Titans, Jaguars and Texans and win every other game, which would include winning at Green Bay.
 
AdamJT13;4232049 said:
Not really. In a three-team tiebreaker, unless one team has swept both of the others or lost to both of the others, the next tiebreaker is NFC record.

If it's us, Detroit and Atlanta, we would win the three-way tiebreaker unless the Lions lose to both the Raiders and the Chargers and the Falcons lose two out of three to the Titans, Jaguars and Texans. That's because our NFC record would be better than either of theirs.

The chances that Detroit and Atlanta go a combined 1-4 against those teams and STILL end up tied with us for the first wild card -- considering that the Lions also have to play the Packers twice and the Saints, and the Falcons still have to play the Saints twice -- is virtually nil. That's why I said that if we end up in a three-way tie with those two teams, we should win the tiebreaker.

If it's us, Detroit and the Bucs, and we beat the Bucs, it would be the same thing unless the Bucs lose two out of three to the Titans, Jaguars and Texans and win every other game, which would include winning at Green Bay.

good work..now figure it all out and give me your opinion on whether 9 wins is going to be enough..ill take a look at the schedules and post my opinion as well

edit*** these games are way too hard to predict..i failed lol
 
GloryDaysRBack;4232057 said:
good work..now figure it all out and give me your opinion on whether 9 wins is going to be enough.

Playoffstatus.com says there's a 45 percent chance that we will make the playoffs if we finish 9-7.
 
Right now my concern is getting in a good position coming out of the Thanksgiving Day game. Right now we have 3 games in 11 days (Buf,Wash and Miami) My hope is we can be sitting at 7-4 and in a position to make the final push over the last 5 games of the season.

I have always used the record coming out of Thanksgiving at a big indicator of our chances to make post season. The team will get a little time off after that game before they start the final run for post season.
 
We need to win. Common games and all that BS doesn't matter if we WIN.

We all know how bad we have been come December, let's hope we have a reversal of fortune this year.
 
AdamJT13;4232049 said:
Not really. In a three-team tiebreaker, unless one team has swept both of the others or lost to both of the others, the next tiebreaker is NFC record.

If it's us, Detroit and Atlanta, we would win the three-way tiebreaker unless the Lions lose to both the Raiders and the Chargers and the Falcons lose two out of three to the Titans, Jaguars and Texans. That's because our NFC record would be better than either of theirs.

The chances that Detroit and Atlanta go a combined 1-4 against those teams and STILL end up tied with us for the first wild card -- considering that the Lions also have to play the Packers twice and the Saints, and the Falcons still have to play the Saints twice -- is virtually nil. That's why I said that if we end up in a three-way tie with those two teams, we should win the tiebreaker.

If it's us, Detroit and the Bucs, and we beat the Bucs, it would be the same thing unless the Bucs lose two out of three to the Titans, Jaguars and Texans and win every other game, which would include winning at Green Bay.

For those teams yes, but ATL, Bucs, Chicago and Det have the same or better records. I also don't count Philly dead until they have 7 losses. Any scenarios can be ran, but there is too many assumptions to make it very relevant.

If two are from the same then division rules apply.

Current seeding is
1.GB
2.SF
3.NYG
4.NO
5.Det
6.Chicago (beat ATL)
7.Atl
8.Dallas
9.TB
10.Philly (any win and any dallas loss vaults them above us in NFC East)

  • you have to assume 1 & 2 are probably set.
  • The Giants have a 2 games lead currently, same div record, and better common record. They control their spot for at least 2 weeks
  • Detroit has a 2 game adv
  • Chicago has all 4 AFC West games left and only 4 conference games (although it is a tough conference) but beat ATL
  • Dallas and TB head to head
  • Philly always rallies at the end
Way to early to compare more than 1 or 2 teams.
 
AdamJT13;4232074 said:
Playoffstatus.com says there's a 45 percent chance that we will make the playoffs if we finish 9-7.

And 55% we won't.
 

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