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I see quite a few posting comments about no shot at the playoffs and the season is over and we need to play certain players vs trying to win games.

Am I wrong for seeing this as a quitter? Am I Wrong for seeing this as wrong? How can you give up on your goal until that goal is unatainable and completely eliminated. I just don't see it.

We all just witnessed the Red Sox beat the Yankees a few years ago and then go on to win the world series when the were 1 out away from being swept. I just witnessed a team win a national title in mens softball after losing the first game of a double elimination tournament. That team won 14 games in a row over the course of 3 days and then had to beat the winners of the winners bracket back to back to win the championship.

I honestly don't see a difference in a fan saying we've got no shot at making the playoffs the same as a player quitting on a tackle or quitting like they did against green bay.

Let me say this before i get the post about trying to see what we have behind our starters for next season. If we get mathematically eliminated then there will he plenty of time to do that. That's more for the fans anyway. These guys battle NFL starters every day in practice so the good coaches know what we have.

So educate me on this thought process.
 
It's just the Internet age man. On the Internet "unlikely" = "impossible."

They could do it, but it is unlikely. Therefore, it is impossible. Then if it happens, "I hoped I would be proven wrong."

You can't let it get to you.
 
bsheeern;3704613 said:
I see quite a few posting comments about no shot at the playoffs and the season is over and we need to play certain players vs trying to win games.

Am I wrong for seeing this as a quitter? Am I Wrong for seeing this as wrong? How can you give up on your goal until that goal is unatainable and completely eliminated. I just don't see it.

We all just witnessed the Red Sox beat the Yankees a few years ago and then go on to win the world series when the were 1 out away from being swept. I just witnessed a team win a national title in mens softball after losing the first game of a double elimination tournament. That team won 14 games in a row over the course of 3 days and then had to beat the winners of the winners bracket back to back to win the championship.

I honestly don't see a difference in a fan saying we've got no shot at making the playoffs the same as a player quitting on a tackle or quitting like they did against green bay.

Let me say this before i get the post about trying to see what we have behind our starters for next season. If we get mathematically eliminated then there will he plenty of time to do that. That's more for the fans anyway. These guys battle NFL starters every day in practice so the good coaches know what we have.

So educate me on this thought process.

I'm not sure anyone can tell you what Garrett is doing. But, the bolded sentence above from your post is what it is...a process.

That's what Garrett has been preaching since becoming the head honcho.

Besides, from what I saw from the young guys, I liked.
 
You're asking an interim coach with a backup QB on a team that was 1-7 to overnite make the team win out. Even then we likely don't make the playoffs.

I'm not a quitter by saying we almost certainly won't make the playoffs. I'm just being realistic. That said I will pull for them to win out.
 
Honestly at this stage I'm not really even thinking about that. I want to see this team start playing quality football and stringing together some wins. If in the end we run the table and make it to 9-7 I'll be happy they were able to turn things around playoffs or no playoffs. Believe me I have not been too happy this season right now I just want to see us winning games and playing good.
 
bsheeern;3704613 said:
I see quite a few posting comments about no shot at the playoffs and the season is over and we need to play certain players vs trying to win games.

Am I wrong for seeing this as a quitter? Am I Wrong for seeing this as wrong? How can you give up on your goal until that goal is unatainable and completely eliminated. I just don't see it.

We all just witnessed the Red Sox beat the Yankees a few years ago and then go on to win the world series when the were 1 out away from being swept. I just witnessed a team win a national title in mens softball after losing the first game of a double elimination tournament. That team won 14 games in a row over the course of 3 days and then had to beat the winners of the winners bracket back to back to win the championship.

I honestly don't see a difference in a fan saying we've got no shot at making the playoffs the same as a player quitting on a tackle or quitting like they did against green bay.

Let me say this before i get the post about trying to see what we have behind our starters for next season. If we get mathematically eliminated then there will he plenty of time to do that. That's more for the fans anyway. These guys battle NFL starters every day in practice so the good coaches know what we have.

So educate me on this thought process.


You aren't even close to wrong. Even if Wade was still the HC, and we lost 3 more starters to injuries. You don''t stop doing everything last thing in your power to win until you are mathematically eliminated. At that point you can start playing younger players. Any thought process that says otherwise is silly and usually reserved for chicken littles, whiners, and fake cowboys fan trolls :D
 
jobberone;3704625 said:
You're asking an interim coach with a backup QB on a team that was 1-7 to overnite make the team win out. Even then we likely don't make the playoffs.

I'm not a quitter by saying we almost certainly won't make the playoffs. I'm just being realistic. That said I will pull for them to win out.
I think this echoes the feelings of the vast majority of the board. There are only a couple who have given up.
 
jobberone;3704625 said:
You're asking an interim coach with a backup QB on a team that was 1-7 to overnite make the team win out. Even then we likely don't make the playoffs.

I'm not a quitter by saying we almost certainly won't make the playoffs. I'm just being realistic. That said I will pull for them to win out.

Actually I'm asking a team who has won the NFC East 2 times in 3 years to pull their head out of their backside and play ball. True we have a backup QB but Kitna has not been the problem.
 
Football is all about winning and making the playoffs is the Holy Grail. Taking over the Cowboys with a 1-7 record & half the season gone, makes it very unlikely we make the playoffs even with 9-7 record. While many fans would be delighted Cowboys recovered and had a strong finish, it still wouldn't be considered a successful season. But finishing with several more wins would give us hope for next season & be in a good position to draft some pretty good players. Really doubt we win all remaining games but do see us going anywhere from 6-10 to 8-8.

I still believe the Cowboys have some real needs which we saw exposed against the Giants. We must upgrade our defense; secondary, DL & even LBs. And our OL must also be significantly upgraded. Love our WR core, don't have a problem with our TEs; also wonder what we will do at RB cause MBIII shouldn't be around after this season, don't know what plans are for Choice, etc. .
 
Hostile;3704621 said:
It's just the Internet age man. On the Internet "unlikely" = "impossible."

They could do it, but it is unlikely. Therefore, it is impossible. Then if it happens, "I hoped I would be proven wrong."

You can't let it get to you.

I guess I shouldn't let it get to me but I'm kind of glad it does. I don't accept the mentality of not having a chance when there is a chance. This country was founded and built on people who fought for their chance and we often lose site of what we have in front of us.

I don't think the team should think about the playoffs or discuss it. They need to focus on Garretts message. "be great today" But we as fans can and it's just hard for me to see fans say we have no chance.
 
Maybe playing some of the young guys IS what gives us the best chance of doing the "near impossible"?
 
links18;3704695 said:
Maybe playing some of the young guys IS what gives us the best chance of doing the "near impossible"?

I agree when it comes to certain positions and players especially on defense. Jimmy used to play a lot of different guys on D and it keeps em fresh. I think offense needs continuity. Especially at oline and Qb.
 
bsheeern;3704613 said:
I honestly don't see a difference in a fan saying we've got no shot at making the playoffs the same as a player quitting on a tackle or quitting like they did against green bay.

So educate me on this thought process.

A player quitting on his team or not giving effort directly effects his team and teammates.

Whether a fan chooses to "believe" or not has absolutely no effect on the what the team does on the field.

Unless you think the team somehow channels the thoughts and wishes of its fans.

I haven't quit rooting for this team to win on Sundays. I have just quit believing this team has a shot at the playoffs in all reality.

If you choose to believe, so be it, you're a "superfan."
 
Only quitters give up - having said that, being a realist, I would say our chances of making the playoffs lie around the 10% area, maybe less.
 
realtick;3704709 said:
A player quitting on his team or not giving effort directly effects his team and teammates.

Whether a fan chooses to "believe" or not has absolutely no effect on the what the team does on the field.

Unless you think the team somehow channels the thoughts and wishes of its fans.

I haven't quit rooting for this team to win on Sundays. I have just quit believing this team has a shot at the playoffs in all reality.

If you choose to believe, so be it, you're a "superfan."
Of course a player quitting affects the team differently than a fan quitting. Duh, lol. I'm referring to the mentality of each situation. How can you say we have no shot at making the playloffs when we do have a shot. It's only been done once in the history of the league but how can you say it can't happen.

Seriously
 
Regardless of what posters might post, Garrett knows his future (immediate and more remote) depends on how his team performs. And no one is going to give him much credit for improved performance unless he wins games.

So make no mistake: Garrett may opt to play younger players more and rotate more players in and out, but he'll do so only if it gives the team a better chance to win. Both he and Jerry know that it will take wins to fill seats and sell merchandise. And keep jobs.
 
I think we'll finish 6-10 myself. We won't beat teams like New Orleans or Indy, but we'll fight, score some points and be competitive. That SHOULD get Red the gig next year and probably beyond that.
 
bsheeern;3704715 said:
Of course a player quitting affects the team differently than a fan quitting. Duh, lol. I'm referring to the mentality of each situation. How can you say we have no shot at making the playloffs when we do have a shot. It's only been done once in the history of the league but how can you say it can't happen.

Seriously

That's a cute response when you were the one drawing the lame analogy.

Regardless, what's your point? That this team has a chance of running the table and making the playoffs? Congrats! You've pointed out a slim mathematical possibility.

As most of the responses have said already, nobody has quit rooting for the team, most have just given up any reasonable hope that it will happen.
 
bsheeern;3704613 said:
I see quite a few posting comments about no shot at the playoffs and the season is over and we need to play certain players vs trying to win games.

Am I wrong for seeing this as a quitter? Am I Wrong for seeing this as wrong? How can you give up on your goal until that goal is unatainable and completely eliminated. I just don't see it.

We all just witnessed the Red Sox beat the Yankees a few years ago and then go on to win the world series when the were 1 out away from being swept. I just witnessed a team win a national title in mens softball after losing the first game of a double elimination tournament. That team won 14 games in a row over the course of 3 days and then had to beat the winners of the winners bracket back to back to win the championship.

I honestly don't see a difference in a fan saying we've got no shot at making the playoffs the same as a player quitting on a tackle or quitting like they did against green bay.

Let me say this before i get the post about trying to see what we have behind our starters for next season. If we get mathematically eliminated then there will he plenty of time to do that. That's more for the fans anyway. These guys battle NFL starters every day in practice so the good coaches know what we have.

So educate me on this thought process.

Think of a 10yr old crying while he leaves with his ball.

They can't stand the pain of losing anymore.

They can no longer take the pain this most disapointing season has caused them.

It's a sad pathetic and all to transparent self defense mechanism. If the team plays all the young guys and never lets Romo back in, then they were obviously looking forward and not realy trying to win today.

So you can no longer mock me or my team for not winning.
 
I am really just trying to listen to Garrett.



"Not thinking about anything except today. I tell the guys, lets be great Wednesday, then Thursday I tell them to be great on that day and hopefully by Sunday we can be "good""

I Heart Garrett
 
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