Please help me understand this "Fabini over Pettiti" thing

dcboy

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I understand many people liking Petitti personally, especially because of his dad's posts, but that shouldn't be a factor here. I went back and looked at the games from last year and he was terrible. He was poor at both run and pass blocking. Both before and after the injury. Hearing Parcells talk him up all offseason, gave me hope that his physical condition was the reason why he was so bad. He did look better than last year, but not leaps and bounds better. I think leaps and bounds better would make him servicable at best. I don't see him ever being a good tackle.
 

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This horse has been pretty well beaten, but I'll toss in my 2 cents. I think it came down to two things:

1) Fabini was the better option for both now and the immediate future, and won the job over Petitti.

2) It's a question of balancing experience vs. potential. Right now, we have one vet and one rookie on each side, resulting in a balance of security now vs. long term solution. While Columbo does have a few NFL starts, his experience is still comparable to Petitti right now.

Also, making the vet Fabini the swing tackle is more of a safe route to take. While he isn't a long term solution, let's face it, the swing is not a starter. If Petitti wasn't at the same level as McQ and Columbo then ultimately he probably would have just been at best a career backup to them anyway, barring career ending injury to one of the others. If that's the case, it's not so hard to sacrifice a backup in favor of experience.

It looks like we now have a good young prospect for each tackle position, each of which having more potential and upside than Petitti had flashed in his time here. At the end of the day that's what really matters.
 

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Petitti is gone because we kept 4 Tackles and he was the fifth best tackle we had
 

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AMERICAS_FAN said:
So basically Parcells kept Fabini over Pettiti because he felt that Fabini would be a bettter swing tackle (i.e. a better backup for both tackle spots) than Pettiti THIS YEAR. Parcells was quoted as saying this, but he was also recently quoted as saying that he learned from Ron Wolf - former GM of the Packers - to not let veterans stand in the way of progress, meaning that if you had a young player with upside then you are better off developing that player over keeping the veteran.

So basically Parcells was quoted as saying that he would prefer to choose the long-term benefits that the promising younger player can give a team over the short-term benefits the the older veteran offers. So whay then did Parcells choose Fabini over Pettiti since he believed Pettiti had a good upside? Is it that Parcells merely said that but does not really believe that or is he favoring Fabini becaise he's an old Parcells guy? I'm just confused because Parcells is talking out of both sides of his mouth on this one. :confused:

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its pretty simple, petitti sucked and Fabini didn't suck as much
 

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Fabini improved a great deal as camp went on... But Rob's technique was still very poor from time to time. Colombo isn't ancient... McQ looks to have much more potential and better footwork than Petitti.

With Fabini improving we just didn't need two developmental tackles on the roster.
 

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MichaelWinicki said:
Fabini improved a great deal as camp went on... But Rob's technique was still very poor from time to time. Colombo isn't ancient... McQ looks to have much more potential and better footwork than Petitti.

With Fabini improving we just didn't need two developmental tackles on the roster.

^^ Listen to this man, he didnt want Fabini at all.
 

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No offense to Pittdawg or any Pettiti fans but he Sucks and that's why he's gone. It was only a matter of time, and it finally happened. Personally I'm happy about it.
 

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About week 16 of this year if Pettiti sniffs the field in NO, you will see why we cut him. I am willing to bet he allows at least 10-11 sacks again, if not more.
 

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Once again, I must raise the question about the ability of our OL coach. When we're having to bring in FA's to fill holes, and cutting draft picks, something is wrong.

Ether we can't spot pro talent, or we can't coach em up.
 

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noshame said:
Once again, I must raise the question about the ability of our OL coach. When we're having to bring in FA's to fill holes, and cutting draft picks, something is wrong.

Ether we can't spot pro talent, or we can't coach em up.

If McQ pans out, a LT in the 7th round makes up for a lot of mistakes.

If Columbo's pre-season carries over into the regular season, a starting RT for peanuts is extra credit too.

Not excusing the Rogers/Peterman fiascos (I don't count Pettiti, 6th round picks just don't make it some times), but it would be a nice recovery :)
 

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Another quote from Parcells to help explain things:

"I'm not interested in being consistent. I'm interested in being right"

Each situation is it's own. Blanket statements like "progress stoppers" and "the three year rule" don't fit reality.

Just becuase he's says something once about a particular situation does not mean he's then forced to live by that hard and fast rule for the rest of his life.

Making decisions is about weighing the pros and cons or a specific situation. It's not about pulling ironclad rules out some notebook and mindlessly following them.
:hammer:
 

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I don't think this is as difficult as some are making.

Parcells, I believe Monday, said it was difficult to cut guys like Petitti. Made it sound like keeping two kickers made him release someone he would have otherwise kept.

But his willingness to let Pettiti go seems to indicate he didn't see Petitti's ceiling making him expendable. IMO, he must think he has an OT-of-the-future candidate in McQuistan, a current starter in Columbo (young enough to be here a while if he's any good) and a stop-gap backup in Fabini. Not a bad mixture if any of them can play.

Petitti showed flashes last year. It's why he quickly latched on elsewhere. But he went from a seemingly surefire starter to begin camp to being a backup. Obviously, some of the other guys must have looked better along the way.
 

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I'm not sure the "progress stoppers" comment isn't applicable here. We all know Fabini won't be getting any better at this point, but maybe Parcells thought Petitti had reached the end of his progress, too.

The bottom line is that all this Petitti hand-wringing is misplaced. We replaced Petitti with a guy with a much, much higher upside -- McQ -- and that's a good thing, not a bad one.
 

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well.....I suppose Ill put something out there........Fabini Sucks, Petitti Sucks........neither is worth a ****........Parcells knows Fabini.........


there you have it.......all about who you know because when its up to deciding between two terrible players, why not pick someone you can remember the old days with.
 
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