Please, I Can't Take It Anymore

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AP's comment has simply cemented a long-standing issue I've had with professional sports in general, but the NFL in particular.

Maybe I'm all alone here - but I simply cannot stand to hear NFL players talk about themselves and the game in military terms.

I know there are others here who, like me, actually served. I don't know if everyone shares my combat experience, but I do know we are all brothers-in-arms and, IMHO, the only ones qualified to refer to our endeavors as combat/war/battle and/or ourselves as warriors.

Some may not agree, I understand. But when I hear some athlete - in any sport - speak of themselves as warriors, the game or match as battle/combat/war or invoke any other term which holds what I consider a very narrow and special meaning, it just really gets to me.

None of these guys - save any who served and then came back into the sport - have any notion whatsoever about what it takes to be a warrior and certainly are completely ignorant of combat, battles and war. And for this I'm grateful.

I just think they use terms likes this in an effort to enhance their public persona and/or because they are completely clueless as to what they are talking about - and it rubs me the wrong way (if you couldn't tell).

And yes, I'm aware of the the War on Drugs, Poverty and any number of policy positions invoking the word, but for me, in sports, its different. And there are some here who may point to the condition of the neighborhoods where some of these players grew up and as harsh as some of them may be, they are not battle, combat, or war zones - by any stretch - including Compton, S.Central, The Greens, Oak Cliff, or any other less desirable neighborhood in this country.

If I'm alone or off-base here, I understand. Just my position. Do I expect it to stop? Unfortuantely, no. Do I beg, hope and pray it does? Indeed.

I can't truly speak to the "slavery" comment - outside the obvious idiocy - since I'm not black, but I can imagine its about the same.
 
One thing that galls me beyond compare is when fans talk about the "sacrifices and injury" a player goes through when playing the game for hundreds of thousands per year.

Save me the martyred player bull****, they don't deserve it by any means.

Find me an NFL player, at the age of 23-25 who talks about going to sleep like the Hispanic kid does in Restrepo. Not verbatim:

"I sleep two or three hours now. The dreams are bad, so I try to stay awake. If I can, I'd rather not sleep at all."

When DeMoron Smith said "We're going to war", that really put me off. I'll contribute to any fund that sends him to a FPB or FOB of my choosing in say, Khowst, Nangahar, or Patika Province.
 
:clap2:

Let them go with me next time and watch their comrades run for cover, helpless during an indirect fire attack, and then come back and call a game "war."

Thank you, te.
 
casmith07;3878079 said:
:clap2:

Let them go with me next time and watch their comrades run for cover, helpless during an indirect fire attack, and then come back and call a game "war."

Thank you, te.

That sig image is priceless. :bow:
 
Demaurice Smith said at the decertification PC that NFL players "risk everything, every day for the game they love."

I've never been in the military nor even had any close family members serve. But that was incredibly insulting to me and I'm sure many other people.
 
casmith07;3878079 said:
:clap2:

Let them go with me next time and watch their comrades run for cover, helpless during an indirect fire attack, and then come back and call a game "war."

Thank you, te.

You are very welcome casmith. You were one of the ones I had in mind with that post
 
behind you on both accounts.

they arent warriors and to call themselves slaves? wow...
 
Galian Beast;3878096 said:
behind you on both accounts.

they arent warriors and to call themselves slaves? wow...

Idiots. I'm starting to turn on the players because of comments like this. Pat Tillman is a hero and warrior. Not Ray Lewis or who ever made these stupid comments. Not saying it was Lewis but this is one thing that would come out of his mouth.

Add that they are asking non members/players to boycott the draft. I think Patrick Peterson already said he is going to the draft. Kudos to him!
 
Chocolate Lab;3878086 said:
Demaurice Smith said at the decertification PC that NFL players "risk everything, every day for the game they love."

I've never been in the military nor even had any close family members serve. But that was incredibly insulting to me and I'm sure many other people.

I wonder what Pat Tillman 's family would say?
 
SaltwaterServr;3878076 said:
One thing that galls me beyond compare is when fans talk about the "sacrifices and injury" a player goes through when playing the game for hundreds of thousands per year.

Save me the martyred player bull****, they don't deserve it by any means.

Find me an NFL player, at the age of 23-25 who talks about going to sleep like the Hispanic kid does in Restrepo. Not verbatim:

"I sleep two or three hours now. The dreams are bad, so I try to stay awake. If I can, I'd rather not sleep at all."

When DeMoron Smith said "We're going to war", that really put me off. I'll contribute to any fund that sends him to a FPB or FOB of my choosing in say, Khowst, Nangahar, or Patika Province.
He would **** all over himself if he literally had to "go to war". Take that to the bank.
 
hornitosmonster;3878106 said:
I wonder what Pat Tillman 's family would say?

I think they wouldn't say a thing following the same tenets both Pat and his brother stuck to when they wouldn't give an interview once they enlisted.

Privately though we're probably all sure of their opinion on it.
 
Sorry, but hearing any contest referred to as a "war" or the contestants as "soldiers" or "warriors" doesn't offend me in the least. It's a metaphor. It's how humans have been communicating since the development of language. It has nothing to do with any particular soldier or particular war.

I'm tempted to go off on a rant about the culture of sensitivity that has developed, where any little perceived misstep becomes some gross social sin from which delicate ears or eyes must be protected. But I won't. Someone with a fragile sensibility might take offense.
 
Gadfly22;3878317 said:
Sorry, but hearing any contest referred to as a "war" or the contestants as "soldiers" or "warriors" doesn't offend me in the least. It's a metaphor. It's how humans have been communicating since the development of language. It has nothing to do with any particular soldier or particular war.

I'm tempted to go off on a rant about the culture of sensitivity that has developed, where any little perceived misstep becomes some gross social sin from which delicate ears or eyes must be protected. But I won't. Someone with a fragile sensibility might take offense.

......Like referring to your millionaire self as a....slave????
 
Gadfly22;3878317 said:
Sorry, but hearing any contest referred to as a "war" or the contestants as "soldiers" or "warriors" doesn't offend me in the least. It's a metaphor. It's how humans have been communicating since the development of language. It has nothing to do with any particular soldier or particular war.

I'm tempted to go off on a rant about the culture of sensitivity that has developed, where any little perceived misstep becomes some gross social sin from which delicate ears or eyes must be protected. But I won't. Someone with a fragile sensibility might take offense.

Save your self-serving ego party. Men are talking in here.
 
I think we shouldn't blow Peterson's comments out of proportion. What *he* said was horrible, dumb, insensitive and insulting.

But, it was only *one* guy. That certainly doesn't mean the rest of the players feel that way.

Does anybody here think that any player on the Cowboys feels like slaves?

I don't think so.

One idiot doesn't speak for the bunch.






YR
 
Gadfly22;3878317 said:
Sorry, but hearing any contest referred to as a "war" or the contestants as "soldiers" or "warriors" doesn't offend me in the least. It's a metaphor. It's how humans have been communicating since the development of language. It has nothing to do with any particular soldier or particular war.

I'm tempted to go off on a rant about the culture of sensitivity that has developed, where any little perceived misstep becomes some gross social sin from which delicate ears or eyes must be protected. But I won't. Someone with a fragile sensibility might take offense.

Sorry we offended you... :rolleyes:
 
The slavery comment was beyond idiotic. I don't know about anyone else, but I've never heard of any slave that was paid 11 million dollars per year....to play a game.

Isn't part of the definition of a slave the fact that they are paid nothing or almost nothing? Adrian Peterson made himself sound like an unappreciative and spoiled *****.
 

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