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superpunk;3744884 said:
Hey I'm happy with Kitna, he's doing well for what he is. However it was getting annoying hearing people make him into something he isn't (which was really just backdoor shots at Romo) based on team results.
Yeah, what he said.
 
Future;3744880 said:
The half full approach is why Wade was here for so long and nothing ever changed, including personnel.

If griping about a former coach now makes you feel better, carry on ..

-Reality
 
juck;3744827 said:
Red is playing competitive winning football without a starting QB and with maybe the worst Defense and terrible DC in NFL. Enough said.Next year after the pieces to the defense and Oline are fixed and Red gets a real DC we will be probably the best team in NFC. Its coming.

Are we seriously back to this? I guess the season hasn't humbled some people. I'm not ready to proclaim us the best anything until I see it.
 
We have some pieces....and like alot of other teams....were missing some pieces.

Its not like we have to rebuild. Hopefully JG gets some top quality assistants to help him. We all know what good assistants did with Jimmy Johnson. The move to replace Shula as our OC back then and hire Norv is what helped us win those SB's

Lets hope we JG and Jerry hire the right guys. A DC is a must and I would like to see someone hired to help JG with the offense too.......better OL coach? Campo replaced?
 
Either way Red is gonna be the man and Im happy with that.
 
Future;3744832 said:
Maybe I'm in the minority, but am I the only won who realizes that this team was a couple of lucky breaks away from losing to both the Gints and Colts, and if not for some lucky bounces and drops by the Saints, they would have murdered us?
Yeah you are in the minority, way deep up in it. What lucky breaks did we get. The last time I checked you make your own breaks. The Giants and Colts made mistakes we made them pay. You don't know what you are talking about.
 
Reality;3744950 said:
If griping about a former coach now makes you feel better, carry on ..

-Reality
That wasn't my point. My point was that Wade and even Jerry - both of whom I've hardly ever been critical about - looked at the positives on this team for 3 years and never really addressed all of the negatives. Instead of fixing the problems, all they talked about was what we had. That's a major part of why we are where we are today. Not rectifying mistakes that we were making, even when 13-3, finally caught up to us because we looked at the positive too much.

I always like that Wade and Jerry are positive about the team, but it came at a cost because they refused to address actual issues.

mldardy;3745261 said:
Yeah you are in the minority, way deep up in it. What lucky breaks did we get. The last time I checked you make your own breaks. The Giants and Colts made mistakes we made them pay. You don't know what you are talking about.
When you fumble 7 times and only lose what, one of them, you are lucky. No other way to put it. I'd rather rectify that than count on being lucky to win ball games. Will I take a game like that, sure, but I'd rather win outright.

Great teams don't depend on the other team's mistakes or luck. Look at New England and Atlanta. Probably the best two teams in football. They aren't lucky, they are good. That's where I want the Cowboys to be.

You don't know what you're talking about if you honestly think we will keep winning games getting this lucky. If you think we are going to continually give up over 400 ypg and get extra points do to leaping penalties to be a successful team you've got another thing coming.
 
juck;3744827 said:
Red is playing competitive winning football without a starting QB and with maybe the worst Defense and terrible DC in NFL. Enough said.Next year after the pieces to the defense and Oline are fixed and Red gets a real DC we will be probably the best team in NFC. Its coming.


I can get behind this thought process with you. I think Garrett is going to be the real deal.
 
superpunk;3744857 said:
What sort of alternate universe did I wake up in where juck is the voice of reason?

I was really glad Collinsworth kept repeating how the "offense has shrunk" with Kitna on the field for the morons who think he is giving Romo a run for his money. The step down really showed up against an aggressive defense last night.[/quote]


But haven't you heard? He's the leader Romo will never be.
 
The Quest for Six;3744902 said:
no, I think you're missing the point, this team isn't one or two players away from competing for a championship. Four of the offensive line need replacing, the defensive line is a bigger problem than the secondary, they just don't get enough consistant pressure. Dallas needs one or two safeties.


Dallas lucky to beat the colt and the Giants because both teams made huge mistakes,


And from what I seen after the game with Choice asking for a freakin autograph from a dog killer and the lovefest between these two teams after the game is sickening, we're suppose to be arch enemies, there's alot more going on with this team than wins and losses, the culture of this team SUCKS..

And the worst is Jason Garrett with a big freakin grin on his face at the press conference, buddy, you just lost to a division rivilry at home, what are you smiling about!!!!!

Lucky to beat the Colts and Giants? What game were you watching? We kicked the Giants *** in their house. Not as close as the final score.

The Colts game obviously could have gone either way since it did go to overtime. But when you claim we were lucky, I interpret that as that we were unworthy of the victory.

No way. We deserved that every bit as much as the Colts if not more. We earned those ints.

I watched every Eagle's game this season. No team rushed Vic better or got more hits on him than we did last night.
Guy had two friggen Ints all year and we get two last night.

I live in eagle country and talked to a half dozen fans this morning. All thought they were going to roll us last night and all thought they were losing when we went up 20-16.

So happy to escape with the win last night against the No Romo, No Dez, already eliminated from the Playoffs Cowboys.......they're not even crowing about it.
 
Future;3745418 said:
That wasn't my point. My point was that Wade and even Jerry - both of whom I've hardly ever been critical about - looked at the positives on this team for 3 years and never really addressed all of the negatives. Instead of fixing the problems, all they talked about was what we had. That's a major part of why we are where we are today. Not rectifying mistakes that we were making, even when 13-3, finally caught up to us because we looked at the positive too much.

I always like that Wade and Jerry are positive about the team, but it came at a cost because they refused to address actual issues.


When you fumble 7 times and only lose what, one of them, you are lucky. No other way to put it. I'd rather rectify that than count on being lucky to win ball games. Will I take a game like that, sure, but I'd rather win outright.

Great teams don't depend on the other team's mistakes or luck. Look at New England and Atlanta. Probably the best two teams in football. They aren't lucky, they are good. That's where I want the Cowboys to be.

You don't know what you're talking about if you honestly think we will keep winning games getting this lucky. If you think we are going to continually give up over 400 ypg and get extra points do to leaping penalties to be a successful team you've got another thing coming.

So, you don't believe teams create their own luck? For example, the Manning INT's had nothing to do with good reads and good plays by our defense, only pure luck?

For those who talk about how we would have lost a couple of games had just one or two things gone against us, the reverse could be said about the Eagles and Saints games. We were right there with them, and could have won those games.

The teams that win put themselves in position to win, and put themselves in position to, and do, take advantage of opportunities.
 
Stautner;3745567 said:
So, you don't believe teams create their own luck? For example, the Manning INT's had nothing to do with good reads and good plays by our defense, only pure luck?

For those who talk about how we would have lost a couple of games had just one or two things gone against us, the reverse could be said about the Eagles and Saints games. We were right there with them, and could have won those games.

The teams that win put themselves in position to win, and put themselves in position to, and do, take advantage of opportunities.


Don't you get it?

When we don't get ints, it's because we suck and our defense can't force them. When we do, it's dumb luck.

When our receivers let passes go through their hands for ints, they can't catch, when the opponents do it its dumb luck.

When Tony throws a game changing int, it's because he's not good enough and will never get us to a SB.

When Kitna does it, it's ok because he's a team guy and plays dominos with everyone.
 
Future;3744832 said:
Maybe I'm in the minority, but am I the only won who realizes that this team was a couple of lucky breaks away from losing to both the Gints and Colts, and if not for some lucky bounces and drops by the Saints, they would have murdered us?

If the ref doesn't remember the "tuck" rule do the raiders win the super bowl and the Pats dynasty never born? If my aunt had balls is she my uncle?

the what if game is a hell of a game
 
Stautner;3745567 said:
So, you don't believe teams create their own luck? For example, the Manning INT's had nothing to do with good reads and good plays by our defense, only pure luck?

For those who talk about how we would have lost a couple of games had just one or two things gone against us, the reverse could be said about the Eagles and Saints games. We were right there with them, and could have won those games.

The teams that win put themselves in position to win, and put themselves in position to, and do, take advantage of opportunities.
With 4 int and 2 of them returned for TD, it still took massive mental mistakes for the Cowboys to win.

When we lose like in the close games you mentioned, we need to look at the mistakes of how we lost. In games we win, like against the Colts, we need to look at what mistakes we made, and what could have cost us the game.
 
Future;3745761 said:
With 4 int and 2 of them returned for TD, it still took massive mental mistakes for the Cowboys to win.

And they had a blocked punt that was returned for a TD. None of these things are the norm, but in the end we did some things right and wrong and they did some things right and wrong, and ultimately we did what we needed to do in order to win and they fell a little short.

I've said this before, but teams that win aren't built on dominating opponents every week, they are built on doing what needs to be done to win each week, including taking advantage of opportunities, and overcoming your own failures.

Obviously there are things we could have done better against the Colts, just as there are things they could have done better. We made some plays, and they made some mistakes. That's generally how games are decided.

Future;3745761 said:
When we lose like in the close games you mentioned, we need to look at the mistakes of how we lost. In games we win, like against the Colts, we need to look at what mistakes we made, and what could have cost us the game.

Of course we always need to look at the games and understand what cost us games we lost and what could have cost us games we won. I didn't, nor would I, suggest otherwise. But just because we won a close game we could have lost doesn't mean we didn't deserve to win.

You can't act like we didn't deserve to win a game just because it was close and could have gone the other way anymore than you can act like we didn't lose to the Saints and Eagles just because those games were close and could have gone our way.
 

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