Pollard and running back situation

[eromeopolk]

Apparently they are going to tag Pollard busted leg and all. Even though there are plenty of outstanding backs in the draft. They better be right. A mistake here and it will really hurt the team.

I personally would draft 2 of the outstanding backs coming out and take advantage of the strength of the draft. Evidently they aren't going to do that. I suspect that they will only draft 1 and have Pollard who better not come back lame. They better not make a mistake on this. Pollard better come back and be what he was last year.

This is not rocket science. I hate cleaning up Jerry Dumbo GM Jones crap. But you cut Elliott to renegotiate him to comeback on a short term deal. You non exclusive tag Pollard putting out news that the healing has sped up and he will be ready for the second mini-camp. You hope there is a stupid NFL team that will give 2 no.1 picks (nobody is as Dumb GM like Jerry Dumbo GM Jones see Joey Galloway). You will not get the 2 no. 1 picks but a team will make a trade and that's what you do with Pollard (it took him 2 1/2 years to become a RB). Trade Pollard, draft Jahmyr Gibbs who might drop to the second round.

Then you play the waiting game with Elliott. If he takes the pay cut, you lose nothing as Gibbs will play Pollard's roll. Take the extra picks and get DT help and sign a DT in free agency. Get another CB and WR in the draft. If Elliott walks, you go after Jeff Wilson, Kareem Hunt, and if Aaron Rogers does not go the the Raiders you can get a 25 year old RB that looks like Emmitt Smith when he runs and catches in Josh Jacobs. Remember the Raiders were trying to give him away having him play in Preseason Hall of Fame game.

The Jonesboys are going to sign a one legged RB to a long term deal like they did Elliott. Elliott is going to walk to another team free. Jonesboys are going to waste another 1st round pick on a RB instead of fortifying the DT and CB positions, and stay cheap at WR. Results will be a new Head Coach, and top 10 2024 draft pick.

 

[Cowboys5217]

If they are tagging Pollard then releasing Zeke and drafting at least one RB with Davis taking up Zeke's role for now are the obvious moves. Jerry Jones and "obvious moves" often part ways though.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Different players recover at different rated
This wasn’t just a minor sprain, the twisting was severe enough that it broke a bone

In any event, everything that I posted taken together means we should let him go IMO

it was a bad sprain for sure, but at the end of the day it's still a sprained ankle and a simple Fibula fracture, neither have a history of long term issues and both have a relatively quick recovery time. It would be shocking to not have him back close to 100% by the time the draft gets here.

I'm all for the idea that you can let him walk with the free agent class and draft class stacked at RB this year, and use the cap money better all while most likely picking up a comp pick in the process. I just can't get behind the catastrophic injury narrative going around here. If Pollard weren't a free agent it probably doesn't even get discussed as it really isn't much different than any other offseason procedure guys get done all the time.

 

[Kingofholland]

Pollard will count 10 million on the tag and the SB teams spent 5-6 million on RBs last year

Pollard had a serious injury and will miss the most of the off season and that is a huge problem when you are installing a new offense

Pollard will take up a roster spot that an actual player could use

I hope now you understand why people are for letting him walk

I understand the cap hit, I think they would re-sign him for a lower cap figure if they can. I don't know what the prospects of him making a full recovery are, but recovery time says he'll be ready for camp. If he's the same player he's worth retaining. If he's not the same player you've seemingly wasted 1 year of money but atleast you didn't impact future cap years. Regardless of what they do with Pollard or not they need to grab RB help in the draft.

I'm just not confident if we let Pollard walk we would adequately replace him considering the history. We let Emmitt go, we rolled out the Troy Hambrick the following year. The next year we pass on the obvious pick and select Julius Jones instead. He was solid, but not Steven Jackson. We let Demarco Murray walk, we bring in Darren McFadden and Joseph Randle, then we draft Zeke the following year.

We'll eventually find a running back, but I don't want it to be the reason our offense takes a step back.

 

[TwistedL0g1k]

Zeke 10.9M salary only hits the CAP if they keep him.

If they keep him, his cap hit, salary plus bonus allocation, is $16.72M. If they cut him, there is a dead money hit to tbe cap of $11.86M. They can spread the dead money hit of course, but any way you slice it, Zeke is going to take a toll on the cap!

 

[12+88=7]

I like Schmitz over Torrance.

Dallas is going to lose McGovern in free agency. Torrance is a guard, the top run blocker with a nasty streak. I would love to have Smith and Torrance on the left side. Torrance would improve the Dallas run game immensely, no matter who the running backs are.

Schmitt is a center. Dallas already has one.

 

[rambo2]

Dallas is going to lose McGovern in free agency. Torrance is a guard, the top run blocker with a nasty streak. I would love to have Smith and Torrance on the left side. Torrance would improve the Dallas run game immensely, no matter who the running backs are.

Schmitt is a center. Dallas already has one.

Schmitz can play guard as good as anybody coming out. I like him a lot more than Torrance. I think that the Cowboys will also.

 

[Sandyf]

I think anyone who believes that we can draft two guys and have one or both make the same impact as Pollard or for that matter Zeke is delusional. Since 2018 there have been 105 running backs drafted and only 15 have made any significant impact. And if you want to say really made a difference then that number is under 10.

Sure this is supposed to be a good RB draft but that is almost true every draft and when those guys get to the NFL, things change and usually not for the good. We hit on Pollard as a 3rd round guy. That does not happen every draft for ANY team. Not against taking one in the draft but sure as hell wouldn't take one earlier than the 3rd and only if he is absolutely the best player available. Franchising Pollard doesn't hurt you and allows you to see if he makes it all the way back from injury. Davis showed he can play.

Yes Zeke probably going to be cut but even if he is cut, his number for any team to sign him is going to be in the $3-$5 million range and he knows it and so does his agent. Could he take a massive cut in pay, sure because we all know that there are things we don't know behind the curtain going on. Would Zeke cut his salary from $10.9 million this year to $3 million, remains to be seen although I could see him doing just that due to endorsements in the Dallas area.

Don't believe there will be but one RB in the 1st round and that is Robinson. Your guess is as good as mind when the next few will go. IMO, I would take Kendre Miller out of TCU in the 4th as he seems like a McCarthy type RB. He catches well, blocks very good, great vision, gets chunks of yards on cutbacks, and tough to bring down. Pair him up with Pollard and Davis and we have a great backfield.

 

[thunderpimp91]

I think anyone who believes that we can draft two guys and have one or both make the same impact as Pollard or for that matter Zeke is delusional. Since 2018 there have been 105 running backs drafted and only 15 have made any significant impact. And if you want to say really made a difference then that number is under 10.

Sure this is supposed to be a good RB draft but that is almost true every draft and when those guys get to the NFL, things change and usually not for the good. We hit on Pollard as a 3rd round guy. That does not happen every draft for ANY team. Not against taking one in the draft but sure as hell wouldn't take one earlier than the 3rd and only if he is absolutely the best player available. Franchising Pollard doesn't hurt you and allows you to see if he makes it all the way back from injury. Davis showed he can play.

Yes Zeke probably going to be cut but even if he is cut, his number for any team to sign him is going to be in the $3-$5 million range and he knows it and so does his agent. Could he take a massive cut in pay, sure because we all know that there are things we don't know behind the curtain going on. Would Zeke cut his salary from $10.9 million this year to $3 million, remains to be seen although I could see him doing just that due to endorsements in the Dallas area.

Don't believe there will be but one RB in the 1st round and that is Robinson. Your guess is as good as mind when the next few will go. IMO, I would take Kendre Miller out of TCU in the 4th as he seems like a McCarthy type RB. He catches well, blocks very good, great vision, gets chunks of yards on cutbacks, and tough to bring down. Pair him up with Pollard and Davis and we have a great backfield.

I think this is right. I’d look to draft a rb but you still need a proven vet. It’s very rare that RBs are 100% nfl ready and even most that make an impact right away are rotating with another back and the issues typically come in the pass game.

Round 1 or round 2 RBs can sometimes be plug and play backs for 80% of snaps. You wait until the middle rounds and you can still find really good runners, but they often come with limitations too.

Pollard/rookie/Davis feels like a winning combination.

Rookie/rookie/Davis feels like a high risk high reward setup

 

[darthseinfeld]

Apparently they are going to tag Pollard busted leg and all. Even though there are plenty of outstanding backs in the draft. They better be right. A mistake here and it will really hurt the team.

I personally would draft 2 of the outstanding backs coming out and take advantage of the strength of the draft. Evidently they aren't going to do that. I suspect that they will only draft 1 and have Pollard who better not come back lame. They better not make a mistake on this. Pollard better come back and be what he was last year.

I wouldn't rule out 2. Especially if one of them is Gibbs. Should be alot of talent early day 3. Tank Bigsby would be a great value in the 4th

 

[blueblood70]

Apparently they are going to tag Pollard busted leg and all. Even though there are plenty of outstanding backs in the draft. They better be right. A mistake here and it will really hurt the team.

I personally would draft 2 of the outstanding backs coming out and take advantage of the strength of the draft. Evidently they aren't going to do that. I suspect that they will only draft 1 and have Pollard who better not come back lame. They better not make a mistake on this. Pollard better come back and be what he was last year.

not a mistake, its a bridge... his injuries are minor will not affect his offseason training etc think of it as a bridge, if the Draftee and malik are ready lie this last season Furgeson and Hendershot looked solid, now Schultz can be released. Its not waste nor a risk. If pollard can handle 15-18 carries a game for a majority of the season plus some targets in the pass game and the others can play their roles..im ok with it.,.

lots of options at RB approach who to keep etc but 3rd rounder should be ready immediately.im looking for another pollard type(maybe Vaughn from Kansas or like him) in the draft as its easier to find a rb that can the dirty work on the street or a young player like malik who looked good in spot duty but we will see in an expanded role. hes cross between zeke and pollard and i see a nice upside to him.. KM was a tard not even using this kid the 2nd half of the 9er game abandon the run after pollard went ouit ..its why he got fired.

KC meanwhile used 4 RBs to beat the eagles, ran gimp qb and a WRBC was able to move the ball. Moore well, while good he was too reliant on big names ie talent over scheme and want creative using these 5 tool gadget guys, Reid knows how to use them.. Heck took him what 3 season to finally utilize pollard more?

 

[MWH1967]

Apparently they are going to tag Pollard busted leg and all. Even though there are plenty of outstanding backs in the draft. They better be right. A mistake here and it will really hurt the team.

I personally would draft 2 of the outstanding backs coming out and take advantage of the strength of the draft. Evidently they aren't going to do that. I suspect that they will only draft 1 and have Pollard who better not come back lame. They better not make a mistake on this. Pollard better come back and be what he was last year.

Tag Pollard and get a big, bodied blocking back in the 4th. Short yardage will be covered.

 

[speedkilz88]

I think anyone who believes that we can draft two guys and have one or both make the same impact as Pollard or for that matter Zeke is delusional. Since 2018 there have been 105 running backs drafted and only 15 have made any significant impact. And if you want to say really made a difference then that number is under 10.

Sure this is supposed to be a good RB draft but that is almost true every draft and when those guys get to the NFL, things change and usually not for the good. We hit on Pollard as a 3rd round guy. That does not happen every draft for ANY team. Not against taking one in the draft but sure as hell wouldn't take one earlier than the 3rd and only if he is absolutely the best player available. Franchising Pollard doesn't hurt you and allows you to see if he makes it all the way back from injury. Davis showed he can play.

Yes Zeke probably going to be cut but even if he is cut, his number for any team to sign him is going to be in the $3-$5 million range and he knows it and so does his agent. Could he take a massive cut in pay, sure because we all know that there are things we don't know behind the curtain going on. Would Zeke cut his salary from $10.9 million this year to $3 million, remains to be seen although I could see him doing just that due to endorsements in the Dallas area.

Don't believe there will be but one RB in the 1st round and that is Robinson. Your guess is as good as mind when the next few will go. IMO, I would take Kendre Miller out of TCU in the 4th as he seems like a McCarthy type RB. He catches well, blocks very good, great vision, gets chunks of yards on cutbacks, and tough to bring down. Pair him up with Pollard and Davis and we have a great backfield.

Pollard was a 4th round pick (128)

 

[Cowboyny]

Apparently they are going to tag Pollard busted leg and all. Even though there are plenty of outstanding backs in the draft. They better be right. A mistake here and it will really hurt the team.

I personally would draft 2 of the outstanding backs coming out and take advantage of the strength of the draft. Evidently they aren't going to do that. I suspect that they will only draft 1 and have Pollard who better not come back lame. They better not make a mistake on this. Pollard better come back and be what he was last year.

Team can ill afford to lose both Pollard/Shultz in one offseason, especially on a unit that lacks many playmakers, outside of Lamb. They know Pollard's touches have to be managed and will find a bell cow type of running back to replace Zeke. Could they double up at the position? Absolutely, especially if Pollard is playing on the tag. However, if they don't tag Pollard, almost have to reach to fill the need in the draft.

 

[noshame]

Pollard could easily lead the league in rushing this year not to mention pass catching and solid blocking.
Why would we tag a guy with the 2nd highest rushing average the league?
Who can take it to the house at any time.
Honestly some of you make jerry and stephen look brilliant

 

[DuncanIso]

I think anyone who believes that we can draft two guys and have one or both make the same impact as Pollard or for that matter Zeke is delusional. Since 2018 there have been 105 running backs drafted and only 15 have made any significant impact. And if you want to say really made a difference then that number is under 10.

Sure this is supposed to be a good RB draft but that is almost true every draft and when those guys get to the NFL, things change and usually not for the good. We hit on Pollard as a 3rd round guy. That does not happen every draft for ANY team. Not against taking one in the draft but sure as hell wouldn't take one earlier than the 3rd and only if he is absolutely the best player available. Franchising Pollard doesn't hurt you and allows you to see if he makes it all the way back from injury. Davis showed he can play.

Yes Zeke probably going to be cut but even if he is cut, his number for any team to sign him is going to be in the $3-$5 million range and he knows it and so does his agent. Could he take a massive cut in pay, sure because we all know that there are things we don't know behind the curtain going on. Would Zeke cut his salary from $10.9 million this year to $3 million, remains to be seen although I could see him doing just that due to endorsements in the Dallas area.

Don't believe there will be but one RB in the 1st round and that is Robinson. Your guess is as good as mind when the next few will go. IMO, I would take Kendre Miller out of TCU in the 4th as he seems like a McCarthy type RB. He catches well, blocks very good, great vision, gets chunks of yards on cutbacks, and tough to bring down. Pair him up with Pollard and Davis and we have a great backfield.

Good stuff.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Pollard was a 4th round pick (128)

And Pollard wasn't ready for a full time role his rookie year, and the other 4th round picks were Benny Snell, Bryce Love, and Justice Hill. While I'm all for taking a back mid rounds it's still far from a slam dunk that you're going to end up with someone capable of starting week 1.

 

[stilltheguru]

They're going to be way too busy drafting a backup cornerback with their first pick.

Why will the corner be a backup? Who starts over the first rounder?

 

[Rayman70]

if McGovern is smart, he signs somewhere else and runs away from here and never looks back.

 

[Rayman70]

Dallas is going to lose McGovern in free agency. Torrance is a guard, the top run blocker with a nasty streak. I would love to have Smith and Torrance on the left side. Torrance would improve the Dallas run game immensely, no matter who the running backs are.

Schmitt is a center. Dallas already has one.

scared of lineman from Fla. after Chaz Green.