Positional Defensive Rankings for NFC East

[dantheman41]

Projecting only the starters because who knows how the depth on any of these teams is going to show up. Its a little hard because eagles and Commanders will play 3-4 and giants and cowboys 4-3. But this is how I rank the projected starters without being partial.


Defensive Line
1. Giants
2. Cowboys
3. Eagles
4. Commanders

Linebackers
1. Cowboys
2. Commanders
3. Eagles
4. Giants

Corners
1. Cowboys
2. Commanders
3. Eagles
4. Giants

Safeties
1. Eagles
2. Giants
3. Cowboys
4. Commanders

 

[mmillman]

looks reasonable to me

The defensive line for Dallas is still a question mark to me but I think unleashing Ware and Spencer will be effective.

 

[crane3735]

Projecting only the starters because who knows how the depth on any of these teams is going to show up. Its a little hard because eagles and Commanders will play 3-4 and giants and cowboys 4-3. But this is how I rank the projected starters without being partial.


Defensive Line
1. Giants
2. Cowboys
3. Eagles
4. Commanders

Linebackers
1. Cowboys
2. Commanders
3. Eagles
4. Giants

Corners
1. Cowboys
2. Commanders
3. Eagles
4. Giants

Safeties
1. Eagles
2. Giants
3. Cowboys
4. Commanders

I think you are off on this or not giving the Commanders much credit.

For the defensive line, I'd put the Eagles last, purely because they are switching to a 3-4 without the personnel for it. AT ALL. They would be number 2 had they kept the 4-3. The Commanders starting defensive line is good. Bowen, Cofield Carriker (missed him last season) are all solid when healthy. The Cowboys are moving to a 4-3 without much experience and outside of Ware, I don't see anything that warrants the 2nd best defensive line. Maybe if Ratliff pans out as DT ? Thats possible after an adjustment period. You guys are going to have some problems stopping the run though.

Even if I gave you defensive line, there is no way that Carter, Lee, whoever is better than Orakpo, Kerrigan, and London Fletcher at this time. Come on ... that one was easy. Carter and Lee are good. I give you that. But not better than Orakpo, Kerrigan and Fletcher (and Perry Riley).

You guys definitely have the best corners in the division no question there. I'd move the Commanders to third and the Giants to #2.

No way the Commanders safeties are worst then the Cowboys. If they aren't the same grade, they are better. Meriweather will be coming back and we drafted Phillip Thomas and Bacarri Rambo. Tanard Jackson (long shot) has a chance as well. Who is Matt Johnson ? I know who Church is and I'm not afraid.

All respect here . No hate.

 

[ShiningStar]

I think you are off on this or not giving the Commanders much credit.

For the defensive line, I'd put the Eagles last, purely because they are switching to a 3-4 without the personnel for it. AT ALL. They would be number 2 had they kept the 4-3. The Commanders starting defensive line is good. Bowen, Cofield Carriker (missed him last season) are all solid when healthy. The Cowboys are moving to a 4-3 without much experience and outside of Ware, I don't see anything that warrants the 2nd best defensive line. Maybe if Ratliff pans out as DT ? Thats possible after an adjustment period. You guys are going to have some problems stopping the run though.

Even if I gave you defensive line, there is no way that Carter, Lee, whoever is better than Orakpo, Kerrigan, and London Fletcher at this time. Come on ... that one was easy. Carter and Lee are good. I give you that. But not better than Orakpo, Kerrigan and Fletcher (and Perry Riley).

You guys definitely have the best corners in the division no question there. I'd move the Commanders to third and the Giants to #2.

No way the Commanders safeties are worst then the Cowboys. If they aren't the same grade, they are better. Meriweather will be coming back and we drafted Phillip Thomas and Bacarri Rambo. Tanard Jackson (long shot) has a chance as well. Who is Matt Johnson ? I know who Church is and I'm not afraid.

All respect here . No hate.

come on, its way to early, the OP was giving his opinion and giving people without a clue a bar to look at. No one is stating what was posted as fact. We wont even know the true starters til after the camps and PS.

Good info you provided and you get more respect here for your opinion than at a few Washington boards ive seen.

 

[crane3735]

come on, its way to early, the OP was giving his opinion and giving people without a clue a bar to look at. No one is stating what was posted as fact. We wont even know the true starters til after the camps and PS.

Good info you provided and you get more respect here for your opinion than at a few Washington boards ive seen.

of course no one will know the true stats/rankings . I was just giving my rebuttal and why I think I'd choose a different ranking. Thats all.

 

[EPL0c0]

I'll hold off comparisons until December 30 and see where Dallas stands at that point.

 

[Future]

What it comes down to, essentailly, is the fact that NFC East defenses are all terrible.

 

[dantheman41]

I think you are off on this or not giving the Commanders much credit.

For the defensive line, I'd put the Eagles last, purely because they are switching to a 3-4 without the personnel for it. AT ALL. They would be number 2 had they kept the 4-3. The Commanders starting defensive line is good. Bowen, Cofield Carriker (missed him last season) are all solid when healthy. The Cowboys are moving to a 4-3 without much experience and outside of Ware, I don't see anything that warrants the 2nd best defensive line. Maybe if Ratliff pans out as DT ? Thats possible after an adjustment period. You guys are going to have some problems stopping the run though.

Even if I gave you defensive line, there is no way that Carter, Lee, whoever is better than Orakpo, Kerrigan, and London Fletcher at this time. Come on ... that one was easy. Carter and Lee are good. I give you that. But not better than Orakpo, Kerrigan and Fletcher (and Perry Riley).

You guys definitely have the best corners in the division no question there. I'd move the Commanders to third and the Giants to #2.

No way the Commanders safeties are worst then the Cowboys. If they aren't the same grade, they are better. Meriweather will be coming back and we drafted Phillip Thomas and Bacarri Rambo. Tanard Jackson (long shot) has a chance as well. Who is Matt Johnson ? I know who Church is and I'm not afraid.

All respect here . No hate.

Don't agree with you at all. Lee is much better then a 40 year old Fletcher. Orakpo is coming off Achilles issues wouldn't trust him to have great season.

Your seriously going to talk about Brandon Meriweather? Who couldn't make the patriots roster with that awful secondary. And got cut by the bears. Give me a break. Barry church has proven more in his 3 games then any of safeties on your roster

 

[crane3735]

Don't agree with you at all. Lee is much better then a 40 year old Fletcher. Orakpo is coming off Achilles issues wouldn't trust him to have great season.

Your seriously going to talk about Brandon Meriweather? Who couldn't make the patriots roster with that awful secondary. And got cut by the bears. Give me a break. Barry church has proven more in his 3 games then any of safeties on your roster

You are merely judging him by his age and not what he brings to the table. Look at his stats and impact of the defense. Last year in 6 games Sean Lee had ... 1 interception 58 tackles 3 passes defended 1 forced fumble. . London had

53 tackles (left a game early due to injury with 1 tackle) , 5 passes defended , 1 interception , 1 FF ,

If you watched the field, the stats don't show enough of what London does. If you are going to talk about Londons age, you have to talk about Lee's injury.


Orakpo is not coming off an Achilles issue. I have no idea where you got that from. He had a pec issue which he is now 100% (so he says).


And as far as Merriweather goes... Bears didn't play him to his strengths. Can't speak on what NE did because I didn't watch many games. Look at what he did in preseason and against the Eagles though. See the impact he made . He is far from a certain thing, but atleast he is a 2 time pro bowler so I know he can play. What is Barry Church ?

 

[gmoney112]

You are merely judging him by his age and not what he brings to the table. Look at his stats and impact of the defense. Last year in 6 games Sean Lee had ... 1 interception 58 tackles 3 passes defended 1 forced fumble. . London had

53 tackles (left a game early due to injury with 1 tackle) , 5 passes defended , 1 interception , 1 FF ,

If you watched the field, the stats don't show enough of what London does. If you are going to talk about Londons age, you have to talk about Lee's injury.

:laugh2:

Only a skins fan could rationalize two players being of equal value from similar production when one played 10 more games.

 

[dantheman41]

:laugh2:

Only a skins fan could rationalize two players being of equal value from similar production when one played 10 more games.

Agreed. Are u telling me you would prefer fletcher to Sean lee? You obviously don't watch football. Orakpo is good I never said he wasn't

 

[CowboyGil]

On to bigger fish:
What are the 'Skins going to change their name to?
Sentinels is already taken!!

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FAL-CO!!!

 

[jterrell]

On to bigger fish:
What are the 'Skins going to change their name to?
Sentinels is already taken!!

http://i188.***BLOCKED***/albums/z315/GilSolis/falco_zps959de631.jpg

FAL-CO!!!

generals.

 

[Echo9]

I think you are off on this or not giving the Commanders much credit.

For the defensive line, I'd put the Eagles last, purely because they are switching to a 3-4 without the personnel for it. AT ALL. They would be number 2 had they kept the 4-3. The Commanders starting defensive line is good. Bowen, Cofield Carriker (missed him last season) are all solid when healthy. The Cowboys are moving to a 4-3 without much experience and outside of Ware, I don't see anything that warrants the 2nd best defensive line. Maybe if Ratliff pans out as DT ? Thats possible after an adjustment period. You guys are going to have some problems stopping the run though.

Even if I gave you defensive line, there is no way that Carter, Lee, whoever is better than Orakpo, Kerrigan, and London Fletcher at this time. Come on ... that one was easy. Carter and Lee are good. I give you that. But not better than Orakpo, Kerrigan and Fletcher (and Perry Riley).

You guys definitely have the best corners in the division no question there. I'd move the Commanders to third and the Giants to #2.

No way the Commanders safeties are worst then the Cowboys. If they aren't the same grade, they are better. Meriweather will be coming back and we drafted Phillip Thomas and Bacarri Rambo. Tanard Jackson (long shot) has a chance as well. Who is Matt Johnson ? I know who Church is and I'm not afraid.

All respect here . No hate.

I think the Cowboys D line of Ware,Hatcher,Ratliff and Spencer are better than the Commanders line and it's sort of a toss up at the linebacker spot.

London Fletcher has been underrated his entire career, but at some point I think age is going to begin to catch up to him. I'll take Lee and Carter over Kerrigan and Orakpo, but I'm biased so I know at least some of my decision making is based on potential there. So like I said, kind of a toss up. Ithink we'll know the answer to that after this season though.

At safety? Both teams are young and unproven, so it's all speculation there. I'd HAVE to give the edge to skins though. I hope I am wrong .

 

[SkinsFan82]

On to bigger fish:
What are the 'Skins going to change their name to?
Sentinels is already taken!!

No name change coming, but if you don't like referring to the Commanders by that name, you can just calls us the NFC East Champions.

 

[CowboyGil]

No name change coming, but if you don't like referring to the Commanders by that name, you can just calls us the NFC East Champions.

HAHA. Touche. Enjoy it while you can.:skins:

 

[jblaze2004]

No name change coming, but if you don't like referring to the Commanders by that name, you can just calls us Finally NFC East Champions and now back to garbage

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