Possible life found 140 light years away

[Bullflop]

Those in the know what McClay might do without Jerry around to muck things up aren't revealing it.
Whatever the answer to that question may be, we'll have to await Jerry's absence to find out.

 

[Streifenkarl]

Those in the know what McClay might do without Jerry around to muck things up aren't revealing it.
Whatever the answer to that question may be, we'll have to await Jerry's absence to find out.

Uhm, wrong thread my friend? And you even edited it?

 

[Pass2Run]

Meant to say "life is most likely everywhere."

Or once has been or will be in the future.

The universe is interesting. Quantum physics, quantum collapse, entanglement, relativity is just scratching the surface.

Time as we perceive it doesn't even really exist.

 

[Pass2Run]

It's actually not that "uncertain" about FTL travel. This video explains it best imo.



So nothing will beat Einstein in the future. I'm not saying we will never go places, but whatever the way of reaching far away solar systems will be, it won't be in a space ship traveling faster than light.

You'd have to bend space and time.

It's possible to travel faster than light. Just look at entanglement.

 

[Bullflop]

Uhm, wrong thread my friend? And you even edited it?

Yep -- it seems you caught me off guard, there, bro! Living proof that good intentions aren't enough.

 

[Pass2Run]

It's actually not that "uncertain" about FTL travel. This video explains it best imo.



So nothing will beat Einstein in the future. I'm not saying we will never go places, but whatever the way of reaching far away solar systems will be, it won't be in a space ship traveling faster than light.

If you haven't checked out the channel "Astrum", you will probably like it.

This talks about how life can travel backwards in time, and into the future.

My theory is that quantum collapse happens when our brain waves interact with it a certain way...

The speed of light isn't finite. It can vary...going faster or slower than we measure it. So, figuring that out could be key to traveling faster than light.

Never say never.

 

[Streifenkarl]

You'd have to bend space and time.

It's possible to travel faster than light. Just look at entanglement.

That's why I said. We might get to these places some other way. Just not by "classical" light speed travel. And even if you bend spacetime, then everyone you know will be dead once you return. Not very practical either.

Reaching other solar systems or even galaxies just isn't that appealing to me as it's too much of a fantasy still. Stuff like terra forming or building space colonies on other planets of this system is far more interesting. Or even deep sea exploration as we hardly know our own planet that well yet. I even like movies like The Martian better than all that star Trek stuff.

 

[triplets_93]

It might as well be 120 Million Light Years away...

 

[Runwildboys]

when you look at what it took for humans to make it here, it really shows how stacked the deck was against us.

and thus one has to consider that when theorizing about intelligent life out there.


There seems a decent chance that only one out of a million planets can possibly evolve sentient life.

and out of that number only a fraction will have the conditions work out to let it happen.

Exactly my thoughts.

 

[Runwildboys]

Uhm, wrong thread my friend? And you even edited it?

I thought I somehow jumped into a wormhole to the wrong thread!

 

[Runwildboys]

That's why I said. We might get to these places some other way. Just not by "classical" light speed travel. And even if you bend spacetime, then everyone you know will be dead once you return. Not very practical either.

Reaching other solar systems or even galaxies just isn't that appealing to me as it's too much of a fantasy still. Stuff like terra forming or building space colonies on other planets of this system is far more interesting. Or even deep sea exploration as we hardly know our own planet that well yet. I even like movies like The Martian better than all that star Trek stuff.

Travelling at speeds approaching the speed of light will cause time to slow down for you, just as intense gravity would, but I believe utilizing a wormhole, or otherwise warping spacetime would not.

 

[gtb1943]

It's actually not that "uncertain" about FTL travel. This video explains it best imo.



So nothing will beat Einstein in the future. I'm not saying we will never go places, but whatever the way of reaching far away solar systems will be, it won't be in a space ship traveling faster than light.

So basically you are saying that we are so smart and knowledgeable that the question is settled.

This is the height of intellectual arrogance.

History has proven you wrong again and again.

 

[nobody]

It's actually not that "uncertain" about FTL travel. This video explains it best imo.



So nothing will beat Einstein in the future. I'm not saying we will never go places, but whatever the way of reaching far away solar systems will be, it won't be in a space ship traveling faster than light.

Unless you bypass Relativity by bending space-time. Like using an Alcubierre Drive (aka Warp drive) if we can figure it out. It's mathematically possible. Right now, the concept requires negative mass, but they're constantly working on the idea. So you might be mistaken by saying it won't be in a space ship traveling faster than light. A ship utilizing warp would indeed travel faster than light to an outside observer.

 

[Runwildboys]

Unless you bypass Relativity by bending space-time. Like using an Alcubierre Drive (aka Warp drive) if we can figure it out. It's mathematically possible. Right now, the concept requires negative mass, but they're constantly working on the idea. So you might be mistaken by saying it won't be in a space ship traveling faster than light. A ship utilizing warp would indeed travel faster than light to an outside observer.

I'm not sure if time dilation would be a problem, using warp drive, but it certainly wouldn't be as much of an issue as it would otherwise be.

 

[gtb1943]

I'm not sure if time dilation would be a problem, using warp drive, but it certainly wouldn't be as much of an issue as it would otherwise be.

there are multiple theories about space and possible facets like some call subspace or space plus. Might not be a problem doing FTL there. That is why those claiming FTL is impossible are just mouthing the current conservative interpretation of the universe.

 

[JoeKing]

I want to believe.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Considering the homogenous nature of space, and the fact that scientists have tried to create more elements, most of which either failed completely or lasted only a fraction of a second, I think it's pretty likely that nearly all, if not all the possible viable elements have been established.

I agree that there could be life forms that would be completely foreign to us, but for intelligence to evolve, time is probably a huge factor. We've had at least 5 extinction events on Earth, and it's only because of them that we exist, but for how long? Also, humans have only been around for a tiny fraction of the time dinosaurs ruled the planet, yet they never evolved into an "intelligent" species. So even longevity doesn't guarantee intelligence.

Here on Earth, we have the good fortune of having a planet that rotates and tilts in a manner that makes nearly the whole planet hospitable, and a molten iron core that gives us a protective magnetic shield, to deflect most of the harmful radiation from the sun, which is the perfect distance from us. We have Jupiter and Saturn, that helped clear out the area, ridding our orbit of potential hazards. Our single star is stable and middle-aged, and we have liquid water.

There's a whole lot of unlikely scenarios working in our favor, and as many galaxies, stars, and planets as there are in the universe, the more I think about how many variables have to align, the more I think we may be a very, very rare thing.

E.T., phone home!

That was the difference for us.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I'm not sure people really comprehend the vastness of space (i.e., effectively infinite time, distance, and quantities), so when something is said to be "a one in a million chance," those are actually really good odds.

 

[Runwildboys]

I'm not sure people really comprehend the vastness of space (i.e., effectively infinite time, distance, and quantities), so when something is said to be "a one in a million chance," those are actually really good odds.

Yes, but nobody knows what the odds are, because nobody knows if there's any other life at all. Obviously, it seems nearly impossible that life only exists here, and the same goes for intelligent life. But with all the things that had to occur for us to be here, the likelihood of similar circumstances taking place elsewhere certainly seems to lower the chances.

Granted, there are other conditions that would support life, but who knows if it could thrive well enough to become civilized.

 

[gtb1943]

Yes, but nobody knows what the odds are, because nobody knows if there's any other life at all. Obviously, it seems nearly impossible that life only exists here, and the same goes for intelligent life. But with all the things that had to occur for us to be here, the likelihood of similar circumstances taking place elsewhere certainly seems to lower the chances.

Granted, there are other conditions that would support life, but who knows if it could thrive well enough to become civilized.

our peculiar mix is unique; more than likely.