Post Game Thoughts: Bucs @ Cowboys

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I said I'd be here Monday afternoon, and it's Monday afternoon. I have already proved a few posters wrong, those who doubted I'd come back. And here I am.


First, good win by the Cowboys. Truly deserving of the W.

Second, we (the Bucs) played undisciplined football, and that cost us the game. No team can play as idiotic as we did and expect to win. Folks talk about how winning teams need to play fundamental football (tackling, blocking, blitzing, routes, etc)

Third, our offense could get nothing of substance going, especially in the red zone. Good work by Wade Phillips firing up the Cowboy defense. They looked listless as a group the previous 2 weeks, and really came to play yesterday. The LB's were really moving around, and masking their blitzes better than they have in a while. And we could not run the ball to save our lives. Stopping Graham's tough running was a major key to the W. Garcia, he had happy feet all damn day, and was jittery in the pocket. He made some mistakes because of that, all forced by the Cowboys pass rush. Disgusting performance.

Fourth, outside of the penalties, we kept the Cowboy offense in check. We shot ourselves in the foot by commiting 4 penalties on the drive just before the half to keep the Cowboys offense moving when it should have punted. That turned out to be the winning points in the game. Aqib Talib did very well covering Owens, and Sabby Piscitelli played well in place of Jermaine Phillips. Gaines Adams continues to show he was worth his #4 overall selection.


Finally, as in most cases, the winner of the turnover battle usually come out on top. As was the case yesterday. Dallas was +1 against the Bucs. A trademark of our defense is it's ability to force turnovers. We had 0 on Sunday. It didn't directly result in points, but we lost 4 minutes on the clock, any momentum we wanted to build on after the half, and field position that eventually led to a Cowboy FG. Costly in the end.



That game officially concluded our second quarter of the season, and we finished it at 2-2 and a 5-3 record overall. We enter the third quarter of the year with a game at Kansas City, poised to make a run at the playoffs in the NFC and we have to come out and play strong on the road. We're unbeaten at home, but struggle away from South Florida. Gotta correct that for the playoffs.


And be ready for a rematch against the Cowboys in January.


P.S. - No apology for the "trash-talking" all week from me. I'm still confident in my team, and it's abilities the rest of the year. Again, congrats on the win.
 

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16 of the Bucs' 22 starters would be starters for the cowboys...



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The Bucs stink. We'd love a rematch in January. A healthy Cowboys squad beats these chumps by at least 21.
 

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thats good. your team hasnt played anyone yet in nfc east other than us and prob wont until playoffs. orleans and carolina are too up and down. with new orleans getting their o back on track buccs may be fadin by end of season.
buccs got hit in the mouth today and let the game get away . yet all your loses were by close margins.


in the past garcia has hammered the cowboys they are going to need to really focus on offense if that was your o at full offensive strength today against a battered cowboys d

the rest of your schedule is weak.
 

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Just wanted to add...

If Romo had played yesterday, it would have been a blowout. The cowboys had WRs running free all day but Johnson couldn't hit them and he couldn't buy himself enough time in the pocket at other times.


Now... if Newman, Witten (played less than a half), Kosier, Felix, and Roy had played, it would have been a laugher.


THe bucs had a shot at facing the cowboys decimated by injuries and couldn't get it done. 16 of the bucs 22 starters starting for the cowboys? Their starters couldn't even beat a lot of our backups.
 

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Classy.

But outside of our offensive specialist's, (QB, WR's, RB, TE), there aren't many Cowboys I'd take over Bucs'.
 

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TD22;2378510 said:
13-9

that is the only thing that counts......


Indeed.

Hopefully we can learn the lessons of this game and improve upon the faults.
 

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Rack;2378491 said:
Just wanted to add...

If Romo had played yesterday, it would have been a blowout. The cowboys had WRs running free all day but Johnson couldn't hit them and he couldn't buy himself enough time in the pocket at other times.


Now... if Newman, Witten (played less than a half), Kosier, Felix, and Roy had played, it would have been a laugher.


THe bucs had a shot at facing the cowboys decimated by injuries and couldn't get it done. 16 of the bucs 22 starters starting for the cowboys? Their starters couldn't even beat a lot of our backups.


If, if, if......


If Derrick Brooks was younger, he'd have had an INT for a TD.

If Ronde Barber was younger, he'd have made the tackle and not gotten a 15 yard horsecollar penalty.

If, if, if.....


If doesn't count in football.
 

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[insert regugitated Pro Bowl point.... here]



You are as much a homer as I.


No one is as much a homer as you.


There are a couple of players I'd take over the cowboys, but not many.

QB? Hell no.

RB? Hell no.

FB? Push. Neither one of them are "Special". Ours likes to eat crickets for whatever that's worth.

WR? We had Bryant before. He blew it here. No thanks. And I'll take our old TO over your old JG.

TE? Yeah, no way in hell.

LT? Flozell is miles better than whatever you have out there. He's been playing hurt the last month, but I'd still take him over whoever you have.

LG? Yes. I don't know who your LG is but I'll take him over Proctor (who is actually subbing for the injured Kosier).

C? I always liked Faine, but he wouldn't fit our system. He's too small. Gurode, in our system, is better.

RG? Leonard Davis is a freak. No way would you take your RG over him (unless you're on crack).

RT? Marc Columbo is the attitude of the OL. Not only that but he's a very good football player. I'll stick with him.


Hard to compare defenses since we not only play different fronts but we play different schemes as well.

But in the secondary...

CB? I'll take Barber over Henry. Although Barber wouldn't be "Special" in our scheme. He's a cover 2 CB. He's not elite when in man coverage. I'd still take him though.

CB? Newman is better than anything on your roster at CB. Period.

FS? Hamlin is overrated. Yes, I'll take your FS over Hamlin.

SS? I don't even want to go there.


K? Folk, easily.

P? Even our backup over your starter. Our backup knocked out your punt returner.
 

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DeadEagle;2378526 said:
If, if, if......


If Derrick Brooks was younger, he'd have had an INT for a TD.

If Ronde Barber was younger, he'd have made the tackle and not gotten a 15 yard horsecollar penalty.

If, if, if.....


If doesn't count in football.


If Romo were throwing that pass instead of Johnson, it's a TD, not a tipped pass.
 

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What sort of pathetic team loses to a Cowboys squad playing this shorthanded, with a QB who cannot and will not throw the ball accurately more than 10 yards downfield?

The Buccaneers, that's who.
 

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DeadEagle;2378460 said:
Second, we (the Bucs) played undisciplined football, and that cost us the game. No team can play as idiotic as we did and expect to win.

The Bucs lost the game because the Cowboys were the superior team, despite having four pro bowlers (including their two best offensive players) on the bench most of the game. If the Bucs couldn't defeat a beat up, largely demoralized Cowboy team, it's doubtful the Bucs can beat the Cowboys when they're healthy.

You don't want to see Dallas in the playoffs. Trust me.
 

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DeadEagle;2378460 said:
I said I'd be here Monday afternoon, and it's Monday afternoon. I have already proved a few posters wrong, those who doubted I'd come back. And here I am.


First, good win by the Cowboys. Truly deserving of the W.

Second, we (the Bucs) played undisciplined football, and that cost us the game. No team can play as idiotic as we did and expect to win. Folks talk about how winning teams need to play fundamental football (tackling, blocking, blitzing, routes, etc)

Third, our offense could get nothing of substance going, especially in the red zone. Good work by Wade Phillips firing up the Cowboy defense. They looked listless as a group the previous 2 weeks, and really came to play yesterday. The LB's were really moving around, and masking their blitzes better than they have in a while. And we could not run the ball to save our lives. Stopping Graham's tough running was a major key to the W. Garcia, he had happy feet all damn day, and was jittery in the pocket. He made some mistakes because of that, all forced by the Cowboys pass rush. Disgusting performance.

Fourth, outside of the penalties, we kept the Cowboy offense in check. We shot ourselves in the foot by commiting 4 penalties on the drive just before the half to keep the Cowboys offense moving when it should have punted. That turned out to be the winning points in the game. Aqib Talib did very well covering Owens, and Sabby Piscitelli played well in place of Jermaine Phillips. Gaines Adams continues to show he was worth his #4 overall selection.


Finally, as in most cases, the winner of the turnover battle usually come out on top. As was the case yesterday. Dallas was +1 against the Bucs. A trademark of our defense is it's ability to force turnovers. We had 0 on Sunday. It didn't directly result in points, but we lost 4 minutes on the clock, any momentum we wanted to build on after the half, and field position that eventually led to a Cowboy FG. Costly in the end.



That game officially concluded our second quarter of the season, and we finished it at 2-2 and a 5-3 record overall. We enter the third quarter of the year with a game at Kansas City, poised to make a run at the playoffs in the NFC and we have to come out and play strong on the road. We're unbeaten at home, but struggle away from South Florida. Gotta correct that for the playoffs.


And be ready for a rematch against the Cowboys in January.


P.S. - No apology for the "trash-talking" all week from me. I'm still confident in my team, and it's abilities the rest of the year. Again, congrats on the win.


First let me say that I'm absolutely thrilled to see that you lived up to your word of returning. That is a refreshing change from most fans of other teams out there. Big props to you for doing that.

As for the rest of it it's not important. If's, what's, could haves, wishes, all that doesn't matter, on either side. All that matters was getting out of there with a W and that's what Dallas did.

The Bucs are a solid squad though. I expect them to make some noise the remainder of the year.
 

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Rack;2378528 said:
No one is as much a homer as you.


There are a couple of players I'd take over the cowboys, but not many.

QB? Hell no. AGREE

RB? Hell no. AGREE

FB? Push. Neither one of them are "Special". Ours likes to eat crickets for whatever that's worth. ASKEW. Love him as a lead and pass blocker.

WR? We had Bryant before. He blew it here. No thanks. And I'll take our old TO over your old JG. AGREE

TE? Yeah, no way in hell. AGREE

LT? Flozell is miles better than whatever you have out there. He's been playing hurt the last month, but I'd still take him over whoever you have. WASH... PENN has been better in pass protect, Adams better in run block

LG? Yes. I don't know who your LG is but I'll take him over Proctor (who is actually subbing for the injured Kosier). SEARS, not close.

C? I always liked Faine, but he wouldn't fit our system. He's too small. Gurode, in our system, is better. FAINE. His intensity and playcalling on the OL has been stellar.

RG? Leonard Davis is a freak. No way would you take your RG over him (unless you're on crack). JOSEPH. He is far more mobile.

RT? Marc Columbo is the attitude of the OL. Not only that but he's a very good football player. I'll stick with him. WASH. Trueblood brings pretty well the exact same thing that Columbo does. He is the fire on the OL.


Hard to compare defenses since we not only play different fronts but we play different schemes as well.

But in the secondary...

CB? I'll take Barber over Henry. Although Barber wouldn't be "Special" in our scheme. He's a cover 2 CB. He's not elite when in man coverage. I'd still take him though. BARBER. Henry has little respect league wide.

CB? Newman is better than anything on your roster at CB. Period. TALIB. He's played more, and is already becoming a force.

FS? Hamlin is overrated. Yes, I'll take your FS over Hamlin. JACKSON.

SS? I don't even want to go there. PHILLIPS/PISCITELLI.


K? Folk, easily. BRYANT. 62 yard FG.

P? Even our backup over your starter. Our backup knocked out your punt returner. BIDWELL is one of the best in the league.


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DeadEagle;2378562 said:
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LOL!!!! The fact that you can HONESTLY claim you'd take Talib over Newman is laughable, at best. And any RG in the NFC over Davis? PLEASE! That is a no brainer that anyone, and everyone, would take Davis in a heartbeat.

And no way, no how, ever does anyone take Bryant over Folk cause he's kicked a 62 yarder. Folk is absolute money and it's not like he's slouch when it comes to kicking a long field goal.

The rest of it people could toss up anyway they like.
 

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I would take Barber over Newman, but not Talib over Newman. Although you could make the arguement:

-Barber over Newman
-Talib over Henry/Jenkins (although Scandrick might be a different story, need to see more of him)
 

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Talib over Newman?


Wow.


Bryant over Folk?

Folk is better in the clutch and it's not even close.


Ok you can have Bidwell over our backup Punter. But McBriar (the starter) is leaps and bounds better then Bidwell. He isn't "one of the best" in the league. He is THE best in the league. If the cowboys punt coverage were even "average" he'd be breaking records.
 

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Temo;2378653 said:
I would take Barber over Newman, but not Talib over Newman. Although you could make the arguement:

-Barber over Newman
-Talib over Henry/Jenkins (although Scandrick might be a different story, need to see more of him)

In our system Newman is better than Barber and it isn't even close. We don't run the Tampa 2 in Dallas. Our CBs are asked to do more then just sit in zones.
 

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DeadEagle;2378526 said:
If, if, if......


If Derrick Brooks was younger, he'd have had an INT for a TD.

If Ronde Barber was younger, he'd have made the tackle and not gotten a 15 yard horsecollar penalty.

If, if, if.....


If doesn't count in football.

There's a difference between your if's and Rack's if's. If we somehow meet again in the playoffs, Romo, FJones, Kosier, and Newman will have returned to the Cowboys' lineup.

Barber and Brooks will only be older.
 
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