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jobberone;3178206 said:
Romo needs to recognize when they have 8-9 guys in the box (or more) and call the pass play instead of the run. We always have at least one pass play called just in case. There's no need to run a dive into 9-10 guys in the box when a short pass in available. Or just call a pass play in the huddle. Jason needs to throw enough in that scenario to make teams be guessing what we're going to run and play it a little more balanced. They were run blitzing into those holes last nite. The RB had no chance.

It is a no-brainer. Why would we want to lose the division championship and have to play on the road just to have our backs against the wall? Absurd thought.

Nobody's saying we should intentionally put ourselves in a bad spot. Just noting that this team has a recent history of getting complacent when favored at home and we've recently played well against long odds.

Personally, I'd rather play the Eagles in either location again than play GB right now in Dallas. I'm pretty sure PHI will have our attention after the way last season ended. GB is playing really well right now, and they're a tough team to matchup with defensively.

Plus, I really want us to knock off Philly, and I want GB to send Favre into his annual retirement contemplation a few weeks too early.
 

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good stuff.

the clock mgmt was really on romo not Wade. some of those throws have to be to the boundary. he was upset with austin for not getting out of bounds but austin was breaking in when romo threw him the ball. that's a really tough play to reverse field and get out of bounds.

we likely play philly again. i'd much rather play them at home. even with romo's success on the road, a big game atmosphere in philly is not wise.

i'd love to win and get GB here somehow. that would be sweet. GB isn't as good on the road by far and they really struggle in texas.

all in all i think philly is a far better team than GB. Philly is more explosive on both sides of the ball.

the key to either game will be our pass rush needing to dominate. so nothing new there.

the team with the best OL/DL play in the playoffs will win the Super Bowl as usual. we have a chance to be that team.
 

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Idgit;3179273 said:
Nobody's saying we should intentionally put ourselves in a bad spot. Just noting that this team has a recent history of getting complacent when favored at home and we've recently played well against long odds.

Personally, I'd rather play the Eagles in either location again than play GB right now in Dallas. I'm pretty sure PHI will have our attention after the way last season ended. GB is playing really well right now, and they're a tough team to matchup with defensively.

Plus, I really want us to knock off Philly, and I want GB to send Favre into his annual retirement contemplation a few weeks too early.

GB has had 2 shots at Favre already and failed.

I'd much rather be the ones to send him into shot-term retirement again.

Hey, Washington needs a QB, maybe Snyder will pay Favre 100 million, there isn't going to be a cap.
 

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Watch the replay of the Wildcat play. If Felix keeps it he has a wall around the left side. I didn't mind the play call of a Wildcat but there was no need to trick it up that much and turn it into a double reverse.

We haven't run that play all season, why Garrett went to it there is beyond me.
 

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CaptainAmerica;3179316 said:
Watch the replay of the Wildcat play. If Felix keeps it he has a wall around the left side. I didn't mind the play call of a Wildcat but there was no need to trick it up that much and turn it into a double reverse.

We haven't run that play all season, why Garrett went to it there is beyond me.

it's just to show it....

garrett calls plays to set up other plays. i dont know that because i am a genius but because garrett has stated as much, lol.

you are right in that felix would have had open greenery had he just kept going. especially since he always outruns folks it looks like he wont.

perhaps next time we run that play a guy staying home leaves felix even more open.

all in all, i'd be fine if we never run another wildcat as romo is plenty effective himself.

i do not like the risk/reward of reverses for this team. our ol isn't swift and agile but instead big and powerful. we suck at plays that take a long time in the backfield to develop. i've noticed even on draws we run them better when they are quickly executed with only a hint of a fake.
 

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Idgit;3177759 said:
I think I almost prefer this team go into PHI with our backs up against the wall. That's the way we seem to play best this year, anyway.

Very true.

Not to mention we dont have a history of handling success well. We do have a decent history of playing well with our backs against a wall.
 

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jterrell;3179333 said:
it's just to show it....

garrett calls plays to set up other plays. i dont know that because i am a genius but because garrett has stated as much, lol.

you are right in that felix would have had open greenery had he just kept going. especially since he always outruns folks it looks like he wont.

perhaps next time we run that play a guy staying home leaves felix even more open.

all in all, i'd be fine if we never run another wildcat as romo is plenty effective himself.

i do not like the risk/reward of reverses for this team. our ol isn't swift and agile but instead big and powerful. we suck at plays that take a long time in the backfield to develop. i've noticed even on draws we run them better when they are quickly executed with only a hint of a fake.

I understand but there is no "setting up another play" when you call a double reverse out of the Wildcat.

That play is not the "set up play", it's the play that is the one you are setting up. :)
 

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jterrell;3179311 said:
GB has had 2 shots at Favre already and failed.

I'd much rather be the ones to send him into shot-term retirement again.

Hey, Washington needs a QB, maybe Snyder will pay Favre 100 million, there isn't going to be a cap.

Nah. Much better to have MIN sweep GB in the regular season, only to lose to them when it counts. I'm content to have us get even with PHI and then play whoever is left. (Note, I have no idea how the actual seeding will work out or what matchups are possible. I'm just picking games I'd like to see out of a hat).
 

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No thanks. Except for the skins, we haven't played well in non-dome or cold weather stadium. I do NOT want to DAL to go to PHI to play the wildcard game.

One thing that has sort of surprised me is now the lack of comments on our field goal kicker. Hopefully, he continues to deliver.
 

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jobberone;3178206 said:
Romo needs to recognize when they have 8-9 guys in the box (or more) and call the pass play instead of the run. We always have at least one pass play called just in case. There's no need to run a dive into 9-10 guys in the box when a short pass in available. Or just call a pass play in the huddle. Jason needs to throw enough in that scenario to make teams be guessing what we're going to run and play it a little more balanced. They were run blitzing into those holes last nite. The RB had no chance.
When we have one or no WR in the game, there's certainly going to be 8 or 9 in the box. Where else are they going to be?

On some of those plays, the blocking was atrocious. Kosier had no chance of handling Haynesworth. On at least one play, the Skins had way more defenders on the side we ran to than we had blockers, and we had no shot at blocking them all. And on none of them was Barber the guided missile he was 2 years ago. Fact is, he just isn't a very good short yardage back anymore. 2 years ago, one guy would rarely bring him down. Now it happens all the time.

Another thing that can't be dismissed is that much of Dallas' success running this year has come with the field spread or with draws and the like. I think that hammering it between the tackles with the field spread would be much better than what we tried yesterday. Running with 2 or 3 TEs and/or a fullback isn't our what our guys are used to, so it shouldn't surprise us when it doesn't work well. I think our blockers - to be blunt - aren't very smart and putting them in situations where you've got a lot more guys in front of you to account for means a much greater likelihood of failure. And for goodness sakes, give up on slow developing plays with pulling guards on 3rd and short.
 

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Double Trouble;3179465 said:
When we have one or no WR in the game, there's certainly going to be 8 or 9 in the box. Where else are they going to be?

That's just it. These plays are doomed by the formation alone. Garrett always bunches every player between the hashes on these plays, wich pretty much invites about 9-10 defenders in the box. And Garrett wonders why we struggle to block these play calls. :rolleyes:

Why not line up with 3 WRs and 1 back or 4 WRs and no backs on 3rd or 4th and 1? This will at least spread the defense out and pause the MLB on his first step to guess run or pass, be it a run with a RB in a 3 WR set or via the QB sneak in the 4 WR set.
 

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AMERICAS_FAN;3179506]That's just it. These plays are doomed by the formation alone. Garrett always bunches every player between the hashes on these plays, wich pretty much invites about 9-10 defenders in the box. And Garrett wonders why we struggle to block these play calls. :rolleyes:


The bolded part is not true at all...virtually every team in football runs short yardage plays from these same formations...we arnt doing anything other teams arnt doing or trying, we just arnt blocking it well

Why not line up with 3 WRs and 1 back or 4 WRs and no backs. This will at least spread the defense out and pause the LB on his first step to guess run or pass, be it a run ot a RB or via the QB sneak in the 4 WR set formation.

On the last run that was stuffed (I think it was the last one, might have been the one before that) They lined up with two WR's, a TE and two backs in a normal set, to keep the defense spread out more. And they still got stuffed for no gain.

People cry and complain alot over running from the shotgun as much as we do, but it works quite a bit for the reason you just stated above. In fact it worked for another TD last night.
 

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VietCowboy;3179411 said:
No thanks. Except for the skins, we haven't played well in non-dome or cold weather stadium. I do NOT want to DAL to go to PHI to play the wildcard game.

One thing that has sort of surprised me is now the lack of comments on our field goal kicker. Hopefully, he continues to deliver.

I summarized this in another thread.

Romo has actually played reasonably well in most of the home losses since he became the starter. Often it has been the defense that has let us down or the other team was just better.

On the road games, the games with good weather he has generally played well. However, when the weather is bad with cold, moisture and/or wind, he doesn't do nearly as well.

I'd rather play at home, road in a warm weather city (Az) or one of the dome teams (NO, Minn) than one of the cold city teams (Phil, GB) just for that reason.
 

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casmith07;3178144 said:
Contradictory. Either you want trick plays or you don't. The only plays we need to run are lining up from under center and going right at them.

No, not contradictory because I don't really care either way. I wouldn't mind seeing a couple trick plays but don't want to see anything from the Wildcat because the Wildcat is dog ****.

I'm not dealing with absolutes on the matter and have taken no specific horse in the race.

I was just pointing out that using that garbage Wildcat play as evidence against all trick plays is ridiculous.
 

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Eskimo;3177709 said:
A good summary as usual, David.

A couple of points I would like to make.

I really wonder how much of Romo's struggles in December are due to the weather. I think he really doesn't do well in the cold or snow. I don't know if someone can cross reference his poor passing games with the weather. The other thing is that we have played lots of good teams in December for some reason.
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It was cold last night...and though I wasn't at the New York game, I'm almost certain that it was even colder for that game. I thought he played good/great in both.
 

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This is always a good thread.

I just have to add.

Talk to me Brandon Jacobs!

Talk to me Charlie Brown, AKA Eli Manning!

Talk to me Justin Tuck!

Talk to me Tom Coughlin!

Have a nice cold, long winter at home!

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