Potential Trade Candidates!

[Cowboyny]

It's about this time that we get trade suggestions that seem to imply the Cowboys are totally exempt from injuries this season.

What if they trade Tolbert in August and both Lamb and Pickens go down with injuries?

These trades aren't for right now, but more for post camp.

 

[Cowboyny]

He's not? According to who?

Why would they trade him now? This is the lowest value he has ever had. He is worth far more to the Cowboys then they could get in return.

He is viewed as a backup receiver, not a starter where his contract will no longer be on the rookie scale. You can find a cheaper receiver and replace his production.

Sam Williams could be a cut candidate this yr, if they feel he wasn't going to make the team they could try to get something for him.

 

[Cowboyny]

Sam Williams may be a trade candidate. He is in the last year of his deal. But he is coming off a knee injury which lowers his value a bit and honestly, I would dispute he is buried down teh depth chart.

The Cowboys have

Earnest Brown IV
Donovan Ezeiruaku
Dante Fowler
Marshawn Kneeland
Micah Parsons
Payton Turner
Luiji Vilain
Tyrus Wheat
Sam Williams

on the roster at DE/Edge

Out of this group Fowler, Kneeland, Turner, and Williams are quality DE. Parsons is DE/LB and Ezeiruaku is yet to play a down in the NFL. I think Sam Williams has a shot to be in the top 4 of this group. I would not count him out just yet.

Not counting him or anyone else out, just saying he could be a trade candidate due to the numbers. It is very possible he could be buried in the depth chart and be relegated to a special teams player, which he was in his last season when healthy.

 

[darthseinfeld]

I agree as of right now, but if he lost out in camp, could see a trade take place.

Tolbert? I dont think there is anyone with enough ability to even come close. Thats not praise for Tolbert, thats just how bad our WR's after him are. Mingo and Brooks shouldn't even be on an NFL roster imo. Flournoy is an unknown, but he couldn't even get reps over Brooks. Turpin is easily our 4th best WR and he is really more of a niche player on offense. Not really someone who is going to challenge Tolbert for the 3rd spot

 

[Cowboyny]

Really???

so I see all the negativity for some of those players and you expect them to have any trade value at all?? hmmm???

I mean especially Damone Clark are you serious? no teams trading for that dude and some of these other guys we just got for basically nothing off the street like Robert Jones and Charles, you expect somebody to give us anything for them??​

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I mean come on where do our expectations around here I know we overvalue our players but some of those players haven't even played a snap for us yet...​

So, I doubt anybody would give anything from many of them I mean I'd be surprised if you can get a 6th rounder maybe a 5th for Donovan Wilson maybe Tolbert.

Off that list I'd say Hoffman has the mosrt value,

but you'd be crazy to give up a guy that could play both guard positions and the center position that is what you call your best swing guy on the team you keep him you find a way to sign him that's the kind of depth you can't find in many places..

So yeah , you want to move bass , I don't know if anybody would give anything for him he hadn't played enough too small a sample size...

looking at all that list, some of you make me laugh and not in a good way I'm just snickering, this really overvaluing some of these guys most of these are street free agents, and maybe you get lucky to find somebody to give you something low round pick for one, but I doubt it.​

Sam Williams???

it depends on what he does this year, he's another one of those guys why would you keep a guy like Kneeland over him. If he has a good enough year like I said it depends on what he does this year, if there's value there ,you don't get rid of him, you get rid of the guy who's not very valuable, I don't care if he's a higher round draft pick..

What exactly did Kneeland do? what do you think Turner is going to do, wheat?? I mean there's guys on this team that is not going to be better options than Sam Williams if he has a Good year, you try everything you can do to keep him..

Remember when we had Parsons, tank, Armstrong, Fowler, and Golston? That was a pretty damn nice group we had leading the league in sacks two years in a row I believe laid led the league in turnovers because of the pressure two years in a row you're trying to rebuild that now..

Well Sam Williams would be part of that new group, now that's a kind of depth you want there, I mean that's all I'm saying these other guys are on the bubble why would he be on the bubble if he shows anything this year you try to retain him imho

Let's not forget that Sam Williams was buried in the depth chart under Dan Quinn and relegated to special teams. They may decide they need more numbers at another position and move on from the player either trade or release him.

 

[Cowboyny]

Tolbert? I dont think there is anyone with enough ability to even come close. Thats not praise for Tolbert, thats just how bad our WR's after him are. Mingo and Brooks shouldn't even be on an NFL roster imo. Flournoy is an unknown, but he couldn't even get reps over Brooks. Turpin is easily our 4th best WR and he is really more of a niche player on offense. Not really someone who is going to challenge Tolbert for the 3rd spot

Point is, we have a brand new staff that weren't apart of drafting him. If they decide Mingo/Flournoy/Brooks are a better option, I could see the team dealing him to a WR needy team. This has to play out in camp, but it is a possibility, especially if they could deal him for another player at a position that they lack numbers in.

 

[Cowboyny]

Tolbert can bring a comp pick in 2026, and until another WR steps up, he is #3 for now. Not a trade candidate at this time.

Possibly a few OL, DL, if a few step up and if any offers are made. Dallas will not be the ones offering.
If they do, they will do the usual stupid thing. "if we can't trade him we will release him" So some teams would need to think highly of a player to trade at that point, or lose him to waivers. I don't think we have any players, or very few that fit into that category.

Don't see any DB's either, since they have a lack of CB's, because of injuries and recovery schedules.

A few outside possibilities. And a few of these are stretches, but will list them.
Brooks, Hoffman, Richards, Bass, Thomas, Waletzko, Stephens, Spann-Ford, Clark, Williams, Mukaumu, Butler.

Maybe a surprise of another player. But I doubt any trades. We as fans tend to over rate the players. Especially during TC and PS games.

Tolbert's comp pick will be a mid day 3 pick, if he fell to the 4th receiver, they could just take the pick now.

 

[Praxit]

Sam Williams may be a trade candidate. He is in the last year of his deal. But he is coming off a knee injury which lowers his value a bit and honestly, I would dispute he is buried down teh depth chart.

The Cowboys have

Earnest Brown IV
Donovan Ezeiruaku
Dante Fowler
Marshawn Kneeland
Micah Parsons
Payton Turner
Luiji Vilain
Tyrus Wheat
Sam Williams

on the roster at DE/Edge

Out of this group Fowler, Kneeland, Turner, and Williams are quality DE. Parsons is DE/LB and Ezeiruaku is yet to play a down in the NFL. I think Sam Williams has a shot to be in the top 4 of this group. I would not count him out just yet.

...I saw good things from Kneeland. This guy can only get better. Sam is surprising at times, but his brain fights with logic. (bonehead plays)

I see more benefit from Wilson than Hooker. But I'm no scout, coach or whatever just fan with opinions.

 

[Cowboyny]

agreed.. He's so undervalued and underrated I mean I'm not trying to prop this guy up but he's been getting better it may be slow development but when you can get six to 800 yards out of the guy that's basically not counted on much at all that's a win I mean seven touchdowns go look at that again some of these other guys people wanted here..

I'm just not sure why everyone thinks he's off the team just because Pickens is here no it makes him a more valuable piece at number three sharing a little bit of that load with Turpin....

Keep in mind, brand new staff who never drafted the player. If they have a true competition and he loses out, he may become a trade candidate as he doesn't play on special teams, which you need your backups to do if they are going to be gameday active players.

 

[Cowboyny]

With all the injuries the Cowboys have had over the years I don’t think the Cowboys will trade Sam Williams or any of the guards. The safety room will remain the same as well.

It will all depend on how camp shakes out.

 

[Pass2Run]

Potential trade candidates:

-Aren't part of the long-term future with the team
-Could land us additional day 3 picks
-Could use in a trade to land a position of need. Team may have excess at a position, where they need numbers at another.

Trade Candidates:

-Jalen Tolbert-he is not expected to be resigned in the offseason. Could lose the competition for the #3 WR.
-Bass/Robert Jones/Charles/Hoffman-they aren't going to keep 4 backup Guards. Hoffman can play G/C.
-Sam Williams-it is very possible he is buried down in the depth chart will all the numbers at the position
-Damone Clark-he is buried in the depth chart, where the new staff brought in 3 new linebackers
-Donovan Wilson-he might be a poor fit in this new cover 2 scheme.

What positions could the Cowboys still be hunting?

-DT, CB, RB, T

I agree with everything except I think you keep Tolbert and Bass.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Point is, we have a brand new staff that weren't apart of drafting him. If they decide Mingo/Flournoy/Brooks are a better option, I could see the team dealing him to a WR needy team. This has to play out in camp, but it is a possibility, especially if they could deal him for another player at a position that they lack numbers in.

Its not that they are married to him, its that the other guys are awful. I just dont see anyway he is a trade candidate

 

[Cowboyny]

Its not that they are married to him, its that the other guys are awful. I just dont see anyway he is a trade candidate

If nobody steps up, he will be the #3 WR. You would think they give every opportunity for Mingo to carve out a role as they traded good draft capital for him.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

I'm guessing 1 (Wilson/Hooker) won't make the final cut. They gave Bell new money this offseason.

It was not much money, that won't give him a significant advantage IMO.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Potential trade candidates:

-Aren't part of the long-term future with the team
-Could land us additional day 3 picks
-Could use in a trade to land a position of need. Team may have excess at a position, where they need numbers at another.

Trade Candidates:

-Jalen Tolbert-he is not expected to be resigned in the offseason. Could lose the competition for the #3 WR.
-Bass/Robert Jones/Charles/Hoffman-they aren't going to keep 4 backup Guards. Hoffman can play G/C.
-Sam Williams-it is very possible he is buried down in the depth chart will all the numbers at the position
-Damone Clark-he is buried in the depth chart, where the new staff brought in 3 new linebackers
-Donovan Wilson-he might be a poor fit in this new cover 2 scheme.

What positions could the Cowboys still be hunting?

-DT, CB, RB, T

We have nothing to replace Tolbert with. He will stay here.

Hoffman makes the most sense to keep since we know he can play C. Not sure any of the others can and they all were mediocre players to begin with.

Williams hasn't had much of a chance...last year was going to be his year to prove it but the injury took care of that. He is in a make it or break it year.

We brought in three LB's that are average at best, closer to below average. Clark probably sticks.

Wilson should have been gone after last year. He was abysmal at times.

 

[blueblood70]

Let's not forget that Sam Williams was buried in the depth chart under Dan Quinn and relegated to special teams. They may decide they need more numbers at another position and move on from the player either trade or release him.

I don't need to remember that I'm telling you that he can be Armstrong or Fowler if utilized properly and given the reps.... How would I depend on a defensive coordinator that left now he's with Washington and took his two pet cats with him one is returning but but it's apparent that some coaches like their own players and other guys getting the dog house and Sam Williams did get arrested he jumps offside quite a bit and sometimes he has late hits but the thing I noticed he's really fast he has a great first step he's a great pass rusher he's a great special teams player as far as getting to the kicker and punter..

He just needs to get the reps now but but let me but let me understand the hypocrisy here you think he has trade value but you think he's not good enough to get on Dan Quinn's defenses so which is it the man has zero trade value then that answers your own question..

What I see is I highly athletic guy with a great first step that just needs to get on the field stay on the field and keep his game under control he's one of those guys that just goes 120% and doesn't have a lot of pull-up game... He just needs to be taught that..

But he doesn't need to go crazy when he finally does get his reps and sometimes that's it as well he needed to utilize getting on the field so he was trying to look like he had his hair on fire just wanting to impress the coaches and sometimes he went a little too far one step too much but when I see his get off at the line of scrimmage that can't be taught he's fast great first step and I'm putting him on my team this season just to see what he has....

 

[Cowboyny]

We have nothing to replace Tolbert with. He will stay here.

Hoffman makes the most sense to keep since we know he can play C. Not sure any of the others can and they all were mediocre players to begin with.

Williams hasn't had much of a chance...last year was going to be his year to prove it but the injury took care of that. He is in a make it or break it year.

We brought in three LB's that are average at best, closer to below average. Clark probably sticks.

Wilson should have been gone after last year. He was abysmal at times.

Nothing now, but if a better option emerges, then is becomes a possibility.

 

[Cowboyny]

I don't need to remember that I'm telling you that he can be Armstrong or Fowler if utilized properly and given the reps.... How would I depend on a defensive coordinator that left now he's with Washington and took his two pet cats with him one is returning but but it's apparent that some coaches like their own players and other guys getting the dog house and Sam Williams did get arrested he jumps offside quite a bit and sometimes he has late hits but the thing I noticed he's really fast he has a great first step he's a great pass rusher he's a great special teams player as far as getting to the kicker and punter..

He just needs to get the reps now but but let me but let me understand the hypocrisy here you think he has trade value but you think he's not good enough to get on Dan Quinn's defenses so which is it the man has zero trade value then that answers your own question..

What I see is I highly athletic guy with a great first step that just needs to get on the field stay on the field and keep his game under control he's one of those guys that just goes 120% and doesn't have a lot of pull-up game... He just needs to be taught that..

But he doesn't need to go crazy when he finally does get his reps and sometimes that's it as well he needed to utilize getting on the field so he was trying to look like he had his hair on fire just wanting to impress the coaches and sometimes he went a little too far one step too much but when I see his get off at the line of scrimmage that can't be taught he's fast great first step and I'm putting him on my team this season just to see what he has....

Sam Williams issues have never been about his talent, but his bone head mistakes on and off the field. His time is running out to make an impact and this is his last chance to do so.

 

[blueblood70]

Keep in mind, brand new staff who never drafted the player. If they have a true competition and he loses out, he may become a trade candidate as he doesn't play on special teams, which you need your backups to do if they are going to be gameday active players.

So all the players that are on the team right now that the coaches didn't coast they're all gone so goodbye we're trading pretty much everybody partisans digs OSA I mean we just need to up and trade everyone come on man quit with this they're not going to trade a player they possibly could use before this season now there are a lot of players on the bubble they may not make it next year if they don't step up there's a lot of those on that list there's a lot of free agents coming 5th year players guys like that that they're on contract years or prove it years but you're not going to make any trades before this season not of anybody you mentioned that's worth trading and there aren't many on that list...

Definitely not getting rid of Hoffman I can tell you that 100 percent they didn't resign him and then get his job basically taken away from him by Booker without making him the sole swing guard both guard spots and center he's on my team no matter what some of those guys you mentioned who knows but I don't think most of them have trade value I mean that's where you're making this mistake and I thought I said that earlier you'd literally a lot of those are overvaluing I mean maybe who knows maybe get a 7th for a couple of them I doubt it teams know it cut down there's going to be players just like this it possibly better out on the street why would they go and make a trade for one that's really not been doing anything at all especially guys like Clark??

If you're talking about this all season before this game one in September I doubt we're making any moves like that for half that list at least...

but Sam, Tolbert, and Hoffman are LOCKS...Hoffman and Tobert will be active every game sans injuries,, book it

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I think Tolbert is locked in as our #3. Our WR's behind him are awful. I dont see him being a trade candidate

Williams, Bass and Hoffman we could possibly get 5th's for. Id do two of those and keep one OG for depth. Maybe TB would do Williams for Rachaad White. They are pretty weak in the edge

It’s gonna depend on what type of camp Mingo has. They are gonna give him every chance to win that job.