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QB
Tony Romo
Brad Johnson

RB
Julius Jones
Marion Barber III
Tyson Thompson

FB
Deon Anderson
Oliver Hoyte

TE
Jason Witten
Anthony Fasano

WR
Terry Glenn
Terrell Owens
Patrick Crayton
Miles Austin
Sam Hurd
Isiah Stanback

OT
Flozell Adams
Marc Colombo
Pat McQuistan
James Marten
Doug Free

OG
Kyle Kosier
Leonard Davis
Cory Procter

C
Andre Gurode
Joe Berger

DE
Marcus Spears
Chris Canty
Jeremiah Ratliff
Jason Hatcher
Stephen Bowen

NT
Jason Furgeson
Ola Dagunduro

OLB
DeMarcus Ware
Greg Ellis
Anthony Spencer
Junior Glymph

ILB
Bradie James
Akin Ayodele
Bobby Carpenter
Kevin Burnett

CB
Terence Newman
Anthony Henry
Aaron Glenn
Jaques Reeves
Quincy Butler
Allen Ball

FS
Ken Hamlen
Patrick Watkins

SS
Roy Lee Williams
Keith Davis

K
Martin Gramatica

P
Mat McBriar

LS
L.P. Ladouceur

PS
Matt Baker/Moore (QB)
Alonzo Coleman (RB)
Rodney Hannah (TE)
Nick Folk (K)
Courtney Brown (CB)
Dedrick Harrington (LB)
Blair Philips (LB)

Philosophy
There are several ideas at work here. First, a team has certain basic needs, but you keep talent, regardless of position. Second, Jerry has learned that ignoring the OL and paying big money for free agents isn't the way to go. Offensive lines must be developed, so we're keeping 10 players at the position. Third, from what I've heard Phillips, Garrett and Stewart say, they will be tailoring their systems to their talent. Applying that, I see a lot more use of fullbacks and multiple WRs than double TE sets.

Why?
• Only two QB: I think it's 50/50 whether we keep two or three. Moore has more talent. Baker has more experience. If we keep three, whichever shows in camp goes on the roster and the other goes on the PS.
• Thompson and not one of the rooks: Thompson may not have shown a lot thus far, but 1) he really hasn't had much opportunity, and 2) he has size and speed you can't teach. He's a superb kick returner too. Neither Battle nor Coleman is more valuable to the team at this point.
• Two FB: See "Philosophy." Anderson is more versatile at the position but Hoyte can play LB in a pinch and is great on special teams.
• Two TE: See "Philosophy." Hannah is on the PS in case of injury.
• Berger at center: The Dolphins hated to lose him and the Cowboys think he has potential. We need a backup center and he's played the position. There's really no room at G.
• Dagunduro: The coaches seem to love him. The backup NT spot will be in constant flux. Stanley had his chance.
• Butler and Ball: Jerry and Wade want to get younger and cheaper at 4+ CB. According to coaches, Butler is the best athlete on the team and Ball really looks like a player. Glenn is getting long in the tooth and will probably be replaced next year. If Reeves or Jones was the guy, the change would've already been made.
• Gramatica: He was the most consistent kicker we've had in years in '06, and while he doesn't generate many touchbacks, his kickoffs are usually closer to the 5 than the 15. I'd love to keep Folk, but there's just not room.

The toughest cut?
Elam
 

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Courtney Brown and Nick Folk will both make the active roster.
 

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junk;1560355 said:
What makes you so sure of that?

Courtney Brown has the physical tools to be an elite corner. I doubt he would make it to the PS. Folk is better on kickoffs and has more range on FG's than Grammatica. If he's close to Grammatica on FG%, he will get the job.
 

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VA, nice projection.

I think Courtney Brown is someone I want to have a good look at this pre-season. Also, from what I have seen Elam should get very chance to beat out Davis at the final safety spot this year.
 

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I wonder if Courtney Brown can return kicks. If so, that would go along way of getting him a spot.
 

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i suspect your right that we carry 10 OL this year unless Proctor plays well enough as a center to be a backup there and at OG. Now if Berger and/or Proctor could also be a legit LS it could get real interesting but don't think either has ever been a LS.

BTW: It will be real interesting if Stanbuck's shin splits cause him enough trouble to be placed on PUP cause that would open up either another WR spot or make a position available elsewhere.
 

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AtlCB;1560369 said:
Courtney Brown has the physical tools to be an elite corner. I doubt he would make it to the PS. Folk is better on kickoffs and has more range on FG's than Grammatica. If he's close to Grammatica on FG%, he will get the job.


I just said Ball because I've heard the coaches say a lot of good things about him. He's a physical specimin too. I wouldn't doubt Brown making the roster, either, and it could be both if they show anything close to Reeves' ability in TC. Reeves is great on coverage units, though.
 

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I think the locks are:

QB- Tony Romo, Brad Johnson (2)
RB- Julius Jones, Marion Barber (2)
WR- Terrell Owens, Terry Glenn, Patrick Crayton, Isaiah Stanback (4)
TE- Jason Witten, Anthony Fasano (2)
OL- Flozell Adams, Kyle Kosier, Andre Gurode, Leonard Davis, Marc Colombo, Doug Free, James Marten, Pat McQuistan (8)

18 total

DE- Chris Canty, Marcus Spears, Jason Hatcher (3)
NT- Jason Ferguson, Jay Ratliff (2)
OLB- Demarcus Ware, Greg Ellis, Anthony Spencer (3)
ILB- Akin Ayodele, Bradie James, Bobby Carpenter, Kevin Burnett (4)
CB- Terence Newman, Anthony Henry, Aaron Glenn (3)
S Ken Hamlin, Roy Williams, Pat Watkins (3)

18 total

McBriar, a Kicker, and Ladoucuer.

39 spots.

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3rd QB, 3rd RB, a FB (or two), 3rd TE, another WR (or two), another OL or two, another DE, another NT, another OLB, 2 more CBs (maybe 3), another S, possibly another K, could all be open for competition.
 

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AtlCB;1560369 said:
Courtney Brown has the physical tools to be an elite corner. I doubt he would make it to the PS. Folk is better on kickoffs and has more range on FG's than Grammatica. If he's close to Grammatica on FG%, he will get the job.

Gramatica's KOs aren't spectacular, but they're solid. He was pretty darn reliable on FGs up to 50 yards last year, too. I don't think Jerry's ready to play around with kickers again.
 

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Am I the only one who isnt sold on Gramaticca as a guaranteed 3 points?

Kicker is still a problem for us I think.
 

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I doubt they only keep two TE's...I also doubt they'll keep two FB's

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VACowboy;1560435 said:
I just said Ball because I've heard the coaches say a lot of good things about him. He's a physical specimin too. I wouldn't doubt Brown making the roster, either, and it could be both if they show anything close to Reeves' ability in TC. Reeves is great on coverage units, though.

From what I've read, Ball is far from a physical specimen. He's pretty skinny and most likely will get man-handled by bigger receivers. However, there's always room to put on muscle. Brown is much bigger and is extremely fast. He has the edge physically, but Ball did play against much better competition in college.
 

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Vintage;1560457 said:
I think the locks are:

QB- Tony Romo, Brad Johnson (2)
RB- Julius Jones, Marion Barber (2)
WR- Terrell Owens, Terry Glenn, Patrick Crayton, Isaiah Stanback (4)
TE- Jason Witten, Anthony Fasano (2)
OL- Flozell Adams, Kyle Kosier, Andre Gurode, Leonard Davis, Marc Colombo, Doug Free, James Marten, Pat McQuistan (8)

18 total

DE- Chris Canty, Marcus Spears, Jason Hatcher (3)
NT- Jason Ferguson, Jay Ratliff (2)
OLB- Demarcus Ware, Greg Ellis, Anthony Spencer (3)
ILB- Akin Ayodele, Bradie James, Bobby Carpenter, Kevin Burnett (4)
CB- Terence Newman, Anthony Henry, Aaron Glenn (3)
S Ken Hamlin, Roy Williams, Pat Watkins (3)

18 total

McBriar, a Kicker, and Ladoucuer.

39 spots.

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3rd QB, 3rd RB, a FB (or two), 3rd TE, another WR (or two), another OL or two, another DE, another NT, another OLB, 2 more CBs (maybe 3), another S, possibly another K, could all be open for competition.

Either Hurd or Miles are a lock. We will definitely keep one or the other and most likely both. However, I don't think both are locks.
 

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It's also a lock that we will keep at least one fullback. Which one is anyone's guess.
 

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Star4Ever;1560809 said:
Either Hurd or Miles are a lock. We will definitely keep one or the other and most likely both. However, I don't think both are locks.

Star4Ever;1560813 said:
It's also a lock that we will keep at least one fullback. Which one is anyone's guess.

Yeah. Its also a lock we keep a 4th CB, a 5th CB, another DE, but since I didn't know who they'd be, I didn't put a guess in there.

Hence, why I mentioned it below and not on the players (not positions) that I felt were locks.
 

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Star4Ever;1560806 said:
From what I've read, Ball is far from a physical specimen. He's pretty skinny and most likely will get man-handled by bigger receivers. However, there's always room to put on muscle. Brown is much bigger and is extremely fast. He has the edge physically, but Ball did play against much better competition in college.

Gee..sorta like Aaron Glenn.

Ball was a bad pick, even in the 7th round.

Brown makes it. He'll take Glenn's spot someday.
 

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eduncan22;1560902 said:
Gee..sorta like Aaron Glenn.

Ball was a bad pick, even in the 7th round.

Brown makes it. He'll take Glenn's spot someday.

Obviously, you had someone else scouted in the 7th round you felt better about...

Who?
 
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