Purdy signs for 5 years at $265 mill

Flamma said:
If you just take the contracts by themselves, it isn't that big of a difference. But when you average in their last years before the extension starts, there's a huge gap. It's like an average of 45M to 65M. That's a pretty big difference.
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He doesn't care. NO amount of facts will get him to agree. Only answer he wants to hear is Dak is great.
 
plymkr said:
I blame the driver of the Honda if the driver of the Honda doesn’t take care of the car. Using your analogy of car racing. If the overall budget of car for a season is 100K for every car that races. One driver takes 60K salary and the other driver takes 53K salary. Now the one car has an advantage of 7K that the team can use to upgrade the car, get oil changes, better tires, etc.

So using your analogy Dak drives a Honda and Purdy a corvette. Completely agree. Purdy just made a decision to give his team more money to spend to upgrade the team. Dak took more of a salary. Purdy’s decision made sure his corvette will have better upkeep than Dak’s Honda. So not only does Purdy have the better car but also more money to make sure the car is in better shape.

I think people may be misunderstanding my anger. My anger is at Jerry for sucking with how he does contracts and our players being more concerned about their salaries than their success. If someone wants to argue that there’s no difference between 53 and 60 million. Than my counter argument is why can’t our players ever sign team friendly deals. I counter argue that there’s not a big difference between 60 million and 55. Or with CD, 30 million instead of 35.

No our players want to win the salary bowl and not the Super Bowl. That’s why our team will remain a Honda because our drivers don’t care about the car.

I’ll say it again if there was no salary cap I absolutely wouldn’t care. But the salary cap is team resources and that’s why I care.
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Cap can be managed year to year. Money pushed to the future and you make a run. This year we had 65M on the cap...last year we had 25M we didn't spend. The year before 20 and the year before that 20M.

Yes it's pushing money to the future. And the piper comes due then.

You can't use averages to calculate cap space in a specific year.

We have a GM issue. Let's say Dak made 53M average. Are the Cowboys 7M away from being a perennial winner? That's one. Very average player in FA.

Now I don't mean to say Dak deserves the contract but the contract value is not the issue. When he was making 1M a year we had the same issues.
 
With the 49ers declining Purdy may have a problem living up to that contract. Trading Deebo isn’t going to help him.
 
Yobwocs said:
For practical purposes? No.... but Dak is still better than all of those except Allen and Burrow. 2nd in MVP and only one of 2 with an All Pro appearance.
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The value of 2nd in MVP and All Pro appearance goes away when you consider the QB1s that are not on that list. Particularly so if you take into account Super Bowl appearances and Super Bowl wins. And Dak Prescott is not a top 15 NFL quarterback anymore, if he ever was.
 
CowboysFaninHouston said:
Cap can be managed year to year. Money pushed to the future and you make a run. This year we had 65M on the cap...last year we had 25M we didn't spend. The year before 20 and the year before that 20M.

Yes it's pushing money to the future. And the piper comes due then.

You can't use averages to calculate cap space in a specific year.

We have a GM issue. Let's say Dak made 53M average. Are the Cowboys 7M away from being a perennial winner? That's one. Very average player in FA.

Now I don't mean to say Dak deserves the contract but the contract value is not the issue. When he was making 1M a year we had the same issues.
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I agree with your points. I definitely agree with we have a GM issue. That’s our biggest problem. The argument that we can massage the cap is true but when the bill is due it hurts. The point about when Dak made 1 million it didn’t matter is not exactly correct because we were paying the bill from Romo. So Dak was on a rookie deal Romo’s dead money was still being dealt with. When Dak retires we’re going to pay a hefty price for massaging the cap. So the next rookie QB will be cost 1 million of his money and 15-20 million (I’m just guessing here, I don’t know the actual number) of Dak’s dead money. So the QB position money will be high even with a rookie QB. That’s the GM’s fault, not Dak’s.

That’s not why I am mad about Dak’s contract tho. My problem with Dak’s contract as far as Dak goes is when he said he has to reset the market for the QB brotherhood. Call me “old fashioned” or “hater” or “ignorant” but I have a problem with my QB announcing he wants to set the QB market so other players on other teams will benefit. If Dak is going to be concerned about anyone but himself in contract negotiations, I have a major problem with the players he’s concerned with do not wear the Star.

When I see Allen and Purdy signing deals that are less than Dak’s then it reignites my anger with that. When Purdy took less, 7 million less, it reopened that wound. If Dak didn’t say that whole brotherhood line I don’t think I would have reacted the same way when I saw Purdy take less.
 
plymkr said:
Things like this make me feel that losing every game would be beneficial for us because the Jones have to be embarrassed for any change to happen. Nobody can ever convince me that Dak deserves more money than perennial playoff successful QBs like Purdy, Allen, Mahomes, Hurts. Mahomes and Hurts Super Bowl winners at that. Just terrible resource management.
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Dak's contract is undoubtedly absurd, as are several other QB's. That said, Purdy doesn't belong in the same sentence as Allen or Mahomes. Yes, Purdy has had playoff success on a very good team and in Shanahan's system. But Jimmy G went to the super bowl in 2019 & NFCCG in 2021, also on a very good team in Shanahan's system. Purdy is the better QB of course, but the results were the same for both. And last year, on an aging, injured, less talented team...Purdy was good for 20 TD's & 12 Int's.
 
America's Cowboy said:
Yet, so many of you will just keep on complaining every day, every week, every month and every year nonstop. Y'all don't stop, nor do you care how much you ruin it for everyone else. No, sir. You have to keep acting out all the time no matter what.

So why do you still follow this team?

:facepalm:
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They are sick.
 
CowboysFaninHouston said:
Well past year he was being embarrassed and desperate and made the stupid trade for mingo.

He made enough moves and trades to improve slightly.. wash rinse repeat.

He will never stop down until his death.

And sad part is Stephen may actually be worse
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Let's wait a little while on Mingo.
 
Flamma said:
If you just take the contracts by themselves, it isn't that big of a difference. But when you average in their last years before the extension starts, there's a huge gap. It's like an average of 45M to 65M. That's a pretty big difference.
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I’m not sure I understand the point you are making.

Purdy was coming off a rookie contract and Dak has been in the league for 9 years and was already highly paid. And both were already owed money for their last year and the difference was huge. But the extension represents the new dollars.

I agree that the gap between Dak and Purdy is greater if you include the dollars from their final year that was already owed. But there is a logical reason for that and it’s not related to the new contract.
 
ccb04 said:
Dak's contract is undoubtedly absurd, as are several other QB's. That said, Purdy doesn't belong in the same sentence as Allen or Mahomes. Yes, Purdy has had playoff success on a very good team and in Shanahan's system. But Jimmy G went to the super bowl in 2019 & NFCCG in 2021, also on a very good team in Shanahan's system. Purdy is the better QB of course, but the results were the same for both. And last year, on an aging, injured, less talented team...Purdy was good for 20 TD's & 12 Int's.
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I was just throwing out playoff winning QBs who make less than Dak, not necessarily comparing them. But I do agree that Purdy is a product of the system. The one thing that Purdy is better than Dak is in big games he doesn’t do things to lose the games. You got to give him that. But Purdy is limited.

For instance if you could somehow clone a team and put Dak and Purdy on separate but equal teams. Dak would beat Purdy in the regular season. In the playoffs with 2 identical teams and Purdy is going against Dak, then I’d have to go with Purdy. Purdy is a great game manager and plays better in pressure situations. Dak is more of a playmaker but has trouble in high pressure situations.

But by no means is Purdy up there with Allen, Mahomes, Hurts. I didn’t mean it like that. I can see how I worded it bad but didn’t mean it like that.
 
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