Pushing cap room forward from 2007 to 2008

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There were 23 teams that pushed unused cap room from 2007 into 2008 by using the bogus incentive loophole (the incentives were charged against the 2007 cap and will be credited back in 2008 because they were never earned).

Here are the amounts each team pushed forward, from most to least --

Minnesota $20,780,500
Jacksonville $16.5 million
Tampa Bay $14,572,039 (plus $606,912)
Philadelphia $13,615,833 (plus $90,833)
Buffalo $13 million
Kansas City $11.29 million
Cleveland $11.025 million (plus $3.025 million)
Green Bay $8.965 million
New Orleans $8,266,988 (plus $3,553,088)
Indianapolis $8 million (plus $4 million)
Seattle $7.4 million
Oakland $7,345,532
Carolina $6.67 million (plus $2.67 million)
Tennessee $6 million
New England $5,602,500 (plus $5,602,500)
Miami $4,876,323 (plus $873,677)
New York Jets $4.7 million
Atlanta $4 million
Dallas $3.5 million
St. Louis $3,174,300 (plus $3,174,300)
Baltimore $2.6 million
San Francisco $2,111,678
Washington $1,821,260


The "plus" amounts are additional cap room that could be gained from prorated amounts of last year's bogus incentives currently being charged against the 2008 cap. If those charges disappear, that amount of additional cap room will be gained.




Here are the players involved for each team that used the loophole --

Atlanta -- Dwayne Blakley, $4 million

Baltimore -- Matt Katula, $2.6 million

Buffalo -- Shaud Williams, $3.5 million; Aaron Schobel, $3 million; Leon Joe, $2.5 million; Tim Massaquoi, $2 million; Corey Mace $1 million; Scott Mayle, $1 million

Carolina -- Jason Carter, $4 million; Nai'il Diggs, $2.67 million/year over four years

Cleveland -- Ryan Pontbriand, $8 million; Ken Dorsey $3.025 million/year over four years

Dallas -- Tony Curtis $3.5 million

Green Bay -- Ryan Krause, $4 million; Craig Nall, $3.265 million; Donald Lee, $1.7 million

Indianapolis -- Craphonso Thorpe, $4 million; Tyjuan Hagler, $4 million/year over two years

Jacksonville -- Tutan Reyes, $10 million; Shantee Orr, $6.5 million

Kansas City -- Keyaron Fox, $10 million; Mickey Pimental, $1.29 million

Miami -- Lance Schulters, $3 million, Chester Harris, $1,126,323 (plus $873,677 in 2008); Samkon Gado, $750,000

Minnesota -- Pat Williams, $12.25 million; Steve Hutchinson, $4.75 million; Bobby Wade, $2.4 million; Heath Farwell, $803,000; Ben Leber, $577,500

New England -- Kyle Eckel, $5,602,500/year over two years

New Orleans -- Josh Cooper, $4,713,900; Josh Savage $3,553,088/year over two years

New York Jets -- Abram Elam, $4.7 million

Oakland -- Mark Wilson, $7,345,532

Philadelphia -- Reno Mahe, $4 million; Akeem Jordan, $2.5 million; Shawn Andrews, $2.125 million; Tanard Davis $1.6 million; Darren Howard, $1.5 million; Marcus Paschal, $1 million; Brian Dawkins, $800,000; Jon Dorenbos $90,833/year over six years

San Francisco -- Roderick Green, $1.5 million; Bryan Gilmore, $611,678

Seattle -- Pork Chop Womack, $7.4 million

St. Louis -- Brock Berlin, $3,174,300/year over two years

Tampa Bay -- Chad Lucas, $7 million; Lionel Gates, $6 million; Jerramy Stevens, $678,951; Kenneth Darby $893,088 (plus $606,912 in 2008)

Tennessee -- Ben Hartsock, $6 million

Washington -- Randall Godfrey, $1,821,260
 

THUMPER

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Minnesota -- Pat Williams, $12.25 million;

How in the heck did Minnesota get away with that one? That seems to violate the spirit of the rule IMO particularly for a guy who started every game last year.
 

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Wish we bumped more forward, but we didn't have much wiggle room.

That Pat Williams amount is ridiculous.
 

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I am thinking the League is probably going to start to come down on this.
 

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And to no one's suprise, Arizona and Cincinnati, two infamously cheap teams, are nowhere to be found on the list.

Even in the salary cap era, you have teams that do not want to spend any money on players.
 

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Bryan8284;1964266 said:
Wish we bumped more forward, but we didn't have much wiggle room.

That Pat Williams amount is ridiculous.

Extending Romo and Ratliff ate into our spare salary cap last season.
 

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Temo;1964467 said:
And to no one's suprise, Arizona and Cincinnati, two infamously cheap teams, are nowhere to be found on the list.

Even in the salary cap era, you have teams that do not want to spend any money on players.
Adam Schefter reported on hisATL report that AZ is over the cap. They're about 2.1m over as of yesterday.

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d806cb7e7
 

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Duane;1964471 said:
Extending Romo and Ratliff ate into our spare salary cap last season.

That's what happens to good teams... their stars get more money and consequently the team starts pushing the limits of the cap.

That doesn't explain Washington and Arizona however. :D

And it makes it important to know when to let aging, and expensive vets test the market.

You just can't keep everyone at the salary they desire.
 

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The viveo showed Washington just $100,000 over the CAP.
Guess I missed the cuts.

Also the spirit of the law - look at the numbers Philly pushed off.
Typical - save for tomorrow.
Don't spend it - keep it.
 

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THUMPER;1964170 said:
How in the heck did Minnesota get away with that one? That seems to violate the spirit of the rule IMO particularly for a guy who started every game last year.

And made the pro-bowl.

I wonder what the incentive was for Williams. Catch a TD pass?
 

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THUMPER;1964170 said:
How in the heck did Minnesota get away with that one? That seems to violate the spirit of the rule IMO particularly for a guy who started every game last year.


Whats the difference between 3.5 mill on Curtis or 12 mill on Williams? The rules are the same for everyone.
 

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Big Dakota;1964961 said:
Whats the difference between 3.5 mill on Curtis or 12 mill on Williams? The rules are the same for everyone.

I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uh, some people out there in our nation don’t have maps, and, uh, I believe that our education like such as in South Africa and, uh, the Iraq everywhere like, such as and I believe that they should, our education over here in the US should help the US, er, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future for our children.
 

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joseephuss;1964964 said:
I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uh, some people out there in our nation don’t have maps, and, uh, I believe that our education like such as in South Africa and, uh, the Iraq everywhere like, such as and I believe that they should, our education over here in the US should help the US, er, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future for our children.

Now who can argue with that? :bow: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:
 

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This is a neat post. Can you tell me where you got the numbers from? thx
 

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THUMPER;1964999 said:
Now who can argue with that? :bow: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:


Good to see you're smart enough to figure out that crap, but not smart enough to figure out NFL rules.
 

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Big Dakota;1965378 said:
Adam, nuff said.
I wasn't suggesting that he made them up; I'm just looking for sites with good salary cap info.
 

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Skinsmaniac;1965404 said:
I wasn't suggesting that he made them up; I'm just looking for sites with good salary cap info.


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